New hp envy line this year?

Is there going to be a new line of envy models this year or are they just going to be doing the line refresh?

 

No one knows for sure but right now there's no reason to believe there will be a new line. Most likely just refreshes of the Envy 14 and Envy 17.

 

The Envy 17 was refreshed a couple of months ago with Sandy Bridge. The Envy 14 Sandy Bridge refresh has just arrived.

 

The form factor seems quite appealing, so I don't see a re-design and Sandy Bridge, with all the recall issues early in the year...have put any further developments on hold. Don't see any further refresh other than the 14 inch version to catch up

 

There's a lot of consumer interest (at least here) in a return of the Envy 15, but there's not really been any word on that from HP. It would probably steal more buyers from HP's other models than other manufacturers...

 

HP usuallly refreshes notebooks 3 or 4 times per year, not necessarily all Envy's at the same time though. the 14 and 17s are popular and my guess is that they will keep updating these.

 

3 or 4 times a year so that means we are in for 3 more refreshes for the Envy 17? I think the only refresh was with sandy bridge correct me if I am wrong.


We are going into July now if no refresh very soon then I guess the next one would be the Holiday refresh in the sept-nov timeframe?

 

I'm guessing the next refresh would be either winter of this year or early next year. There aren't any new CPU's coming out soon which usually dictates a refresh.

But I really want the 13 and 15 inchers to make a comeback.

 

no, 3 or 4 refeshes that each hit a porttion, not all, of the product line-up and we have no way of knowing which ones will get it next . We've had already two refreshes for Envy 17 (maybe three. see below), so there's no way three more will come.

Envy 17 had one refresh in the spring for Sandy Bridge, and about that same time (or thereabouts. timing was off because of the SB chipset thing) there were some Pavilion refreshes as well. But, specifically, the Envy 14 was not part of this refresh.

we are now in a different (summer?) refresh cycle, where the Envy 14 gets to take part this time, getting Sandy Bridge, and there is a minor Envy 17 refresh as well going on right now (model numbers 21xxx), and this is mostly software related. I don't watch the dm lines lines carefully, but I think the dm series is getting updated as well, or did already

Thus, the pattern thus far shows a spring and summer refresh, suggesting another one in the fall, whenver "fall" might be. If we're lucky, the Envy 17 will get a facelift with new processor speeds and the new clickpad (called HP imagepad) now emerging in the Envy 14. That would make 3 refreshes for Envy 17 this year, and two for Envy 14. Who knows, maybe Envy 14 will get a 900p screen in the fall...

Thats just what I observe -- in actual practice, parts availability gets in the way sometimes as well to mess with our heads and our timing . In fact, I seem to remember a minor refresh (software goodies) happened right after christmas. There's even some evidence that the Envy 17 silently got a cooling system upgrade near the first of this year as well.

Yes -- if what you might be looking for is not happening now in the summer refresh cycle, then I would expect the next train will arrive in the fall.

so -- while this is far from solid and absolutely just my opinon, what I see is;

1. winter refresh right after xmas
2. spring
3. summar
4. fall, in time for holiday buying season

and any one of these refreshes can see any, but not all, of the product lines gettting anything from a minor software refresh to major hardware changes!

 

I'd expect something before christmas, probably in the fall. For example, th first Envy 17 3D appeared in the fall if memory serves. the industry itself demands product life cycles on the order or quarterly, just to keep up with customer attention span

its possible we might see some new Sandy Bridge processor speeds (bin sorts). before ivy bridge hits the market. Intel has to refresh their stuff too, lol, or make it appear so. Also -- there are some new SSDs taht should hit the HP lineup in my view. the absence of 160s for the Envy 17 is just too glaringly coincident, in my view, and I think we'll see 300s and maybe 600s appear.

 

Thanks for the clarity!

 

Yes, I believe you are correct the first Envy 17D appeared in the Fall around October if I am not mistaken. Any yeah the clickpad image along with some new SSD's would be nice. As far as new Sandy Bridge processor speeds maybe although none have been announced unless I am mistaken? I could see that happening though after all IVY Bridge mobile processors won't appear until March or April next year I believe.

 

Well, for what it's worth on SSD's, the Envy 14 isn't currently offering any (though HP's been known to juggle CTO options back and forth), so maybe HP's either gearing up to offer something newer, or maybe they're cutting back on offering them at all - SSD's might be too expensive for the average Envy consumer yet - my guess is that HP was struggling to sell enough SSD's to justify offering them - after all, I certainly wouldn't have bought one if I hadn't gotten the 30%-off deal from Bing Cash Back when I bought my Envy, and I probably wouldn't notice the difference all that much if I hadn't, if we're being honest, except of course that I have to store more stuff on my external hard drive with the SSD.

 

Off-topic, I recently purchased a Envy 2070NR, and im curious where can i purchase an 8GB 1333mHZ DDR3 RAM?

 

thats for sure; they do juggle CTO options around a lot. As for justifying the SSDs on the Envy, well your guess is as good as mine; I just perceive that we're seeing a supply issue here, although that issue could include price negotiations with the suppliers!

It is interesting to me that you can't tell whether or not you are benefitting from the SSD. They are a different animal, transitionary technology in my opinion, but treated right they offer a substantial improvements in certain areas. But I awknowledge that if you don't need or care about the speed, power consumption, heat, or noise benefits of the SSD then you wouldn't notice those things or approve of the cost vs benefit.

I perceive they are priced so that folks who would invest in the SSD are more likely to understand what they are paying for, driving customers either to pay the premium for HP supported installation, or to the task of installing themselves.

 

In addition to some new Sandy Bridge processor options (perhaps the 2670QM), the most recent Envy 14 sparks some interesting speculation for the next Envy 17:

1. The backlit keyboard might be updated with some different colors (Envy 14 Beats is red backlight), minimally, and/or better manage the "light spill" in between the keys

2. The clickpad could be updated to the Envy 14's imagepad

3. This is the most interesting to me: The Envy 14 is now shipping with a combination of a small mSATA SSD AND a conventional 2.5" form factor rotating HDD. The Envy 17 could offer an mSATA SSD and a PAIR of 2.5" HDD slots -- which could be filled with either HDDs or SDDs and utilize RAID0 for identical pairs. that would be cool

4. I think they need to update the case. I gotta say I prefer the new DV7 look over today's Envy 17, believe it or not, which itself is about a year old. The simple brushed silver or brushed black finish (of the new DV7) is quite elegant, in my view

5. Just speculation, but probably a discrete graphics update, just to update the numbers. I wouldn't expect a stronger GPU, however, unless.....

6. its possible, although not particularly likely in my view, that they might update the cooling system. It would consume more battery power, but they could use a higher CFM fan, or separate the GPU and the CPU heat sinks and use two fans...

7. new 2.5" SSD options. It is still interesting to me that there are no conventional (2.5") SSDs available now from HP. It makes me wonder what they are up to, or if this is just a supply problem. I mean, not even a 160GB can be had right now, in any platform (at least DV7 and Envy 17). I still expect 300GB or even larger SSDs to be available but something is preventing that from happening at present...

 

a note on my point (3.) above -- combination of an mSATA drive with one or more conventional 2.5" drives. After a little more digging it appears that these internal mSATA drives are intended to be used along with a conventional HDD where some driver is intelligent enough to move files from one to the other as it learns how to optimize performance. see http://download.intel.com/design/flash/nand/325502.pdf for additional information, and an example of Intel's solution. interesting read.

 

Hi. This PDF from HP is named Envy 17-2200
Is this some kind of updated Envy line?
Link: HP ENVY 17-2200 Notebook PC series (Data sheet/c02965213.pdf)

 

Nothing new in there? Same CPU, GPU, RAM options, same thickness, etc

 

I wonder if the situation with the possible HP spinoff will affect any updates to the ENVY line (specifically the Envy 17)?

 

minor refresh to include 300GB SSD and 2620 procesor