No 64bit Support for Vista from HP, Retail version?

HP will only support the 32bit version of Vista. Being I have a 64bit CPU Id like to take advantage of my hardware. If I purchased the OS Retail how hard will it be to get sound, video, and other drivers for this machine? I have heard that Conexant doesnt make 64bit drivers and such. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

I'd love to know too!!

 

Well, when I tested my laptop with RC2...most/all of the drivers were found by Windows with no help from me. I don't know if that will be the case with every driver, but I wouldn't be surprised if you were fine.

 

I installed RC1 64-bit a few days ago, and had absolutely no problem with it. Drivers found/installed correctly, all of my programs work without problems, etc.

I'm sure HP will offer 64-bit Vista sometime, but being most people who buy computers really don't even know what the difference between 32-bit and 62-bit (or probably even know the operating system runs on bits), HP isn't really needing to push 64-bit onto the retail scene for their computers.

 

Check it. Look up the different piece of hardware in the machine. If Conexant have any 64-bit drivers, they will say so on their website.

Usually, it is not a problem to find 64-bit drivers. But it depends on the individual hardware setup of your system.

So if you want to know, simply check the manufacturer websites for drivers.

 

to bad, i don't have an hp but more companies offer 64 bit dirvers the better because anyone that dosn't will then be left behind and that is not a good thing for a OEM.

 

I spoke with HP this morning they are not going to support the 64bit version. I tried going to the Conexant website but all it mentions there is the modem stuff. I read on some other forum they didnt have 64bit drivers.

Jon what HP machine do you have? Currently mine is the DV9000T

 

I don't use Vista ATM, but I just found out that HP just removed the link to the Vista drivers for the nx9420, they were there just 3 hours ago for at least 5 different versions, both 32 and 64 bit Business among them.

I had the link for Business 32 stored in mo browser, here it is.

 

Yeah the fact they arent supporting the 64bit for the DV series is what sucks. I want the 64bit not the 32bit version.

 

In that case I would suggest that you purchase a machine from HP with the minimal Vista OS required and then purchase an upgrade or a new version from newegg. 64bit has a few extra security features (can anyone say locked-down kernel) and HP's stupid to not support it. Yes, I'm calling HP stupid.

 

I call HP stupid all the time. My laptop is brand new Im not giving HP any more of my money hehe. Ill buy the OS retail before I do that. My only problem is they are dumb for not supporting the very thing hardware is going to. 32 Bit CPUs will be the thing of the past before long. Now we just need to get the software guys on the same page to take full advantage lol.

 

When you say "no support," do you mean that HP doesn't sell their laptops with a 64-bit OS, or the laptop itself doesn't support 64-bit?

Last time I checked, C2D was 64-bit compatible

 

No support as in not creating 64bit drivers for anything other than their business machines. As in my DV9000t wont have a list of 64bit drivers to download.

 

Ok, let me see if I can clear some things up. First of all, HP will NOT be making the 64-bit version of Vista available preloaded on consumer systems. They also will not OFFICIALLY support 64-bit installations on such systems. That's true of pretty much ALL computer manufacturers, not just HP. That doesn't mean you can't run Vista 64-bit on the systems, just that you may have some unsupported hardware/software. I was a Vista beta-tester and have been running the final version of Vista 64-bit on my Core 2 Duo dv2000t for months now.

The issues (currently) with doing so are:

-- No official sound support. Vista provides an HD Audio driver that works... kinda. No microphone support, and no sound when you resume from standby. Not good. Conexant doesn't provide drivers to end users directly, so they are no help. Toshiba posted Vista drivers a month ago, but they are 32-bit only. Hopefully, when HP's drivers go live, they have drivers that work with 32-bit and 64-bit Vista. But this could be the deal-breaker on using 64-bit Vista.

-- Webcam support. Again, Vista will install a driver that doesn't work. I actually got my webcam working by force installing the HP 32-bit driver, which didn't work and made the system quite unstable, then reverting to the included Microsoft driver. Not sure how or why that worked, but it seems to have. Of course, without a microphone that's kind of useless.

-- Card reader support. The SD card reader works immediately, and a driver for the XD card reader is available on Windows Update, but the MemoryStick reader doesn't work.

-- HP software (bloatware)/custom settings. If you care to have HP's software bundle and custom settings that they put on the machines they sell, some of these may not work on Vista 64-bit. There's no way to know for sure, yet, as HP hasn't put all the drivers/software for Vista up on their website yet.

Everything else works great. So, later today when HP puts up all the Vista drivers (according to their website it should be later today) we'll have to see if Vista 64-bit is supported by the sound and webcam drivers. If so, you should be good to go. Otherwise, 32-bit Vista here I come.

 

Is it true that If I purchase the OS it comes with both 64bit and 32bit on the disk and I can change them at will with no problem? Also how do you like the OS itself with handling of normal apps and the fact Ive read it cuts some of our decisions out for us as for what we want to do when we want to do it? Also the video drivers? I currently have the DV9000t so it has the 7600go 512meg. If folks are all saying this OS sucks then I just wont bother to purchase it.

BTW what version of the OS are you running. I was thinking of getting home premium since ultimate didnt look to have that much more to it for the 150 extra they want.

 

Retail versions of Windows Vista contain both 32-bit and 64-bit versions, and you can absolutely change over whenever you want (although you'll need to do a full reinstall to do so).

The OS itself is great. You'll need the most recent version of most of your apps for full compatibility, but that's about the only caveat. The interface is much better, and the speed and feel of using it is substantially better on good hardware. If you play a lot of games, you'll want to keep XP around to play the games that don't work on Vista, but everything else either works right away, or has an update to work correctly.

Video drivers from Intel and ATI are great. Nvidia is WAY behind here, and was throughout the beta unfortunately. They work fine, but gaming performance is way below what they should be at. They keep saying that the drivers will be made right in the next release. Anyway, you can either use the drivers Windows Update provides or the ones available from www.laptopvideo2go.com . They both work about the same.

I'm currently running Vista Home Premium (x64) on my notebook and Ultimate (x64) on my tower -- though I will be installing Ultimate on my notebook as soon as HP posts drivers so I know whether to go 32-bit or 64-bit. For the most part, Home Premium is more than enough. I have Ultimate in my tower because that's what I got free for beta-testing, and I bought a copy of Ultimate to take advantage of the 2 additional licenses for $49.99 Microsoft is offering if you buy Ultimate. Otherwise it would be staying Home Premium.

 

The only games I play atm really are EQ2 and other sony titles. So if those work I should be good. Ive heard the performance in gaming on vista though drops by 10%. Hopfully thats because of the drivers from nvidia sucking atm. If I am not mistaken I can run 32bit apps on a 64bit OS correct? I like the way the interface looks and I should have more than enough to run it being I have the same CPU as you but a better GPU and same ram as you do. Im not worried too much about the camera and mic not working as they both sucked in XP on my machine anyway. The mic wasnt sensitive enough to pick up much and the camera was always too dark. I was thinking of getting premium today if I get the time but may way still to install it til things calm down and most things start working properly.

 

For the most part 32-bit apps work fine on x64. The exception to that are apps that require a device driver (such as antivirus apps) to function. You'll need a version of those apps specifically designed to work on x64 systems, but most other software works without issue.

A pretty good Vista compatibility list can be found at: http://www.iexbeta.com/wiki/index.php/Windows_Vista_Software_Compatibility_List

It's a good idea to check apps and games you use regularly to see if any issues exist.

 

DV2000T, but it's not running 64-bit.

My desktop is.

I should have mentioned that in my first post. Sorry for any confusion.

 

HP Is supporting and shipping the DV9000 series with 64-Bit Vista Ultimate Edition. I know this because I have a DV9260US in my hands. P/N RP243UA, if you go to: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareList?os=2093&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=3340205&lang=en notice that you can order the Recovery DVD's - Notebook Recovery Disc Set Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit.

The problem is on the box it does not tell you that it is preloaded with the 64-bit version(Even the COA on the bottom of the unit is listed as 32-bit and the Windows AnytimeUpgrade DVD is 32-bit), and I wanted the 32-Bit version(I am more concerned with compatibly) When I called HP, they swear on G-d's earth that they don't ship Laptops with Vista 64-Bit, and keep telling me that I am lying to them or my reseller put it on, total and complete incompetence and B/S!

 

Personally Im not sure cause they swear they arent supporting it other than on business machines. Ultimate comes in both flavors in the box so who knows. I know right now I have two devices that have no drivers beause Vista couldnt find them.

 

All HP-released drivers are 32-bit and 64-bit compatible. Their support people are just clueless.

And OEM versions do not come with both together -- only the retail copies of Ultimate do.

 

Byrd, Those Two devices are for the Quicklaunch buttons, just download quicklaunch 6.10c and you will be fine.

 

Ive gotten it all taken care of now. The two were actually from the card reader. Once it was installed they went away. Now if only HP would make quicklaunch work properly where you can assign the buttons and run that program things would be great lol

 

I'm curious. What is the difference between your dv9260us and my dv9000t. There are two different vista driver download area in HP with less drivers available for dv9000t than your model.

 

The only thing to my knowledge different between 9000 and any other model numbers is whats in the machine itself. Mostof the 9xxx are prebuilt machines where as 9000 usually are CTO systems. The t or z at the end of it is an identifier between Intel CPU and AMD. So you should be able to safely download anything from the list of 9xxxx and shouldnt have a problem. If I am wrong on any of this someone please correct me but I belive this is the case.

 

Under a bit more investigation I could be half wrong lol. They did change a few things with the 9200. This is actually replacing the 9000 series as they put Vista on it and bumped max ram to 4gigs. Sucks I have an older 9000 now. Id love to have 4 gigs of ram and watch Vista sore. Too bad Im stuck with only 2. Anyway, you should still be able to download audio drivers etc with no worries as they wouldnt have changed. The one thing youd have to look at would be the bios. That could have changed since they have to be using a different motherboard that supported more ram than the old 9000. Hope any of this helped.

 

Thanks for the info. I've returned my dv9000t with xp yesterday and new dv9200t is on its way from China. They have a strange business model, wouldn't send me a vista recovery disk and would rather take back my one and a half week old laptop. Anyway, looks like I've made out even better with it having max out at 4gig. By the way, where is that info about 4 gig max?

It looks like most, if not all, 64 bit drivers are out there already, so I'm definately planning to go that direction as long as both versions are provided on the recovery partition. Am I correct in assuming both versions are present?

 

I just saw it on some web page, cant remember where. Granted I called HP and talked to them and they said both machines could but the 2gig chips are expensive. Who knows whats right and wrong at this point without someone trying it. He did say that both the dv9000 and the dv9200 have the same motherboard.

Not sure what OS you got with yours. I know if you buy the Ultimate RETAIL it comes with both. Not sure about purchase through hp.

 

Not that I was planning to pop in couple of 2 gig chips at $700 each any time soon, but for future, it's good to know I can when the price comes time quite a bit. For now, 2 gig system seems more than enough. Last I looked, with no other application running, vista was using about 600k of total memory.

I will have home premium installed on my system.

 

600k?? Might want to look again to make sure cause thats not even 1 meg of ram. Even with only Vista on my machine it booted up and ran more than that

 

Sorry, meant 600 meg. Guess my mind wondered back to the 80's and 640k ram days. We've come a long way.

 

Yes we have lol. I remember the first system as an adult I owned was an old 75mhz pentium. It was even old when I bought it off a friend. I think it had like 4meg vid ram and 8megs system ram lol

 

As far as I know, the dv9000t is remaining in place as a CTO model, even with Vista being released.

Anything off from that model number is a preconfigured system.

It's been that way for about 3 years now.

 

I also just bought a HP 9543. I also bought a copy of Windows Vista Ultimate with the 64 bit option. Can HP 9543s run Vista 64-bit or not? I think I just got served.

 

Yes it can. Don't double post. Way to resurrect a 9 month old thread!