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    No thermal paste in heatsink

    Discussion in 'HP' started by FUZZJP, Jan 20, 2012.

  1. FUZZJP

    FUZZJP Newbie

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    So I sent my laptop into HP awhile ago to fix the overheating issue. But I was informed that technician failed to put thermal paste on the heat-sink which is pretty much the most critical thing ever... I found all this out after the heating issues persisted. Now HP won't repair it because my warranty ran out and it's now "unsuitable" for another warranty.

    I've read through the HP Envy servicing guide and my question is this: Is it practical for me to take apart my laptop to put the paste in manually? And if so where do I physically put the paste on the diagram shown on page 65 (73 in the pdf) of the manual?

    Any suggestions on what I should do would be awesome!

    Also not entirely sure if this is the right forum to post in.

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  2. Nilst

    Nilst Notebook Consultant

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    Hi. You might want to edit your post, take out loads of irrelevant stuff, it makes it really really long!

    If thats what HP did to your laptop then they are useless! I'd go mad after them, they admitted it and won't fix it for you?! Probably easier to fix it yourself and you know its done right.

    If you like your laptop and not wanting a new one then it is worth applying the thermal paste. Its not hard to do, lots of screws! I've replaced motherboards in a laptop of mine. Its easy. Small parts.

    Thermal paste on the CPU and GPU. I didn't look at the PDF manual you mentioned at the top of your post. So from my experience from my DV9774 motherboard replacement there was thermal paste on my CPU and a thermal pad on the GPU. My replacement motherboard came with a a copper shim to use on the GPU instead of the pad. This was to reduce GPU temps better. So not sure on you rmodel what is on the GPU (pad or paste only, or a shim already). Can you put a link for your manual, and we can look at that page you mentioned.
     
  3. FUZZJP

    FUZZJP Newbie

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    WOOPS! I didn't realize that I had that much useless info xD
    I just did a general copy of the output from everest lol


    http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c02160120.pdf Page 65 (73 of 116)
     
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    2.0 Former NBR Macro-Mod®

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    There are plenty of guides on the web which show you how to apply thermal paste. It is easy to do, but if you do it wrong, you'll get poor results - high temps.

    Basic rule, thermal compound spread thin on the heatspreader of the CPU.
     
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    Nilst Notebook Consultant

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    Basically to reapply thermal paste where it should be is between the CPU (#1 on the lower diagram on page 65) and the heatspeader (#2) that contacts the CPU. The rest all have thermal pads according to your manual. Check online how to apply it, like 2.0 said.

    Did HP definately say there's no thermal paste on your CPU? Where did they get that info? Sounds really weird. I ws wondering if they just made some dumb assumption, perhaps something else is wrong...like is your fan spinning and stuff like that? I assume you've checked all that.
     
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    [​IMG]

    I'm pretty sure it isn't the fan.
     
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    Nilst Notebook Consultant

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    Its well worth it then to pull it apart and put the paste on. You can't go on using it at those temps.
     
  8. FUZZJP

    FUZZJP Newbie

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    Also I found this nice tutorial on how to apply the paste but do I really need 99% Isopropyl? All I have is 70% around the house.
     
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    70 is fine. No worries.
     
  10. FUZZJP

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    UPDATE!

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    Thank you everyone for your help!

    Final parting question: How often should I replace the compound? When I notice excessive heat and CPU slow down?
     
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    Hey congrats on a job well done. :)

    You won't need to replace the thermal compound for years. You may want to do it again in 3 years if you still own it. But more important is to clean the fan blades and blow out or vacuum out the dust between the radiator grills every 6 months or sooner.