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    Nvidia 3600M temps for the 8710w?

    Discussion in 'HP' started by M6300user, May 5, 2008.

  1. M6300user

    M6300user Newbie

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    Can any users with an HP Compaq 8710w and an Nvidia 3600M videocard report their GPU temperatures under mild and heavy use?

    I have a 3600M inside a Dell Precision M6300/T9300/XP Pro. I use CPUID HWMonitor 1.08 (32 bit) to monitor the thermal sensors.

    My GPU runs all day at a temperature of 60-64 C while doing simple text based MS Word work. Are these temperatures abnormally high and/or high enough to pose a danger to my notebook?

    When I run more intensive programs (such as Adobe CS3 Design Master) the temperatures picked up by all of the thermal sensors in my notebook go way up (the GPU quickly goes up to 70-80 C and higher) at which point the fans come on and quickly cool down the whole notebook. However, the fans turn off very quickly and only come on under intensive use. Is the 60-64 C daily use of my GPU, during which my fans never come on, abnormally high or a danger to my notebook?

    My ACPI THM sensor runs 48-62 C all day under mild use with no fan activity. Is this too hot or hot enough to damage my notebook? Like my GPU temperature, my ACPI THM goes way up under intensive use, at which point the fans finally come on and cool the whole notebook way down. However, the fans do not come on during day long mild use during which my ACPI THM runs 48-62 C, and my GPU runs 60-64 C, with no fans to cool things down. Is this normal and not dangerous? Or is this a sign that something is wrong/too hot and a danger to the notebook?

    Any users with a 3600M, could you please report temperature data/info? Thanks?
     
  2. FoxWhere

    FoxWhere Notebook Consultant

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    I've wondered the same thing how the 8710 series would manage a video card that consumes a lot of power.

    According to Nvidia, the cards in 8710 have the following power consumption.
    NVS 320M - 20W
    FX 1600M - 50W
    FX 3600M - 70W

    70W is actually a lot assuming that a almost all power becomes heat. I got NVS 320M which actually gets quite hot during load so how does it get when you move from 20W to 70W.

    HP must have a specially designed heat sink for this video card if they ever going to handle the heat from FX 3600M I think.
     
  3. chrixx

    chrixx Product Specialist NBR Reviewer

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    Not sure about heat sinks as the part numbers for heat sinks are still the same, but the 3600M 8710w's come with a new 135W power adapter to accomodate the higher power requirements.

    My GPU temps are 41 Min and 78 Max so far with an average of 50 for light use and 55-60 for moderate use.
     
  4. Stringer2

    Stringer2 Notebook Guru

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    This is something I did read from one non-consumer power supply's manual:

    The reliability of semiconductors is highly dependent on the junction temperature. For silicon devices an average dependency above +40C is that the estimated MTTF (Mean Time To Fail) drops to half per every 11C. (ref: MIL-HDBK-217E)

    That is of course only a hand-rule and might not be applicable to this case.
     
  5. zx81

    zx81 Notebook Consultant

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    I'll monitor with that program and cross check. With Everest I get 67deg C GPU and 54deg Ambient on normal 2D clocks. Gaming (with overclock) I see 91deg C, and I have replaced their stock thermal paste with artic silver 5, although when I took it apart i found that nvidia had done a very good job on the paste

    I'll get back to you later, cheers
     
  6. zx81

    zx81 Notebook Consultant

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    Well after a week, its basically the same. I now use fangui18 to keep the fan speeds lower to keep the sound down, and force fans to high when gaming.

    With the profile I'm using, in a d-dock, its ~40s deg C on cpu and 60s on GPU with normal work. (It runs slightly hotter in Ddock with low or off fans)
    Next time I have to open it open, I'll redo paste on GPU.


    There is a thread on here for how to get fangui working with vista x64, and I am using 600/900 on the clocks while gaming to keep max temp in 90s

    I think from the HP review I read that it has a better cooling solution, bigger fan. I find the left hand side fan on the m6300 which also does the CPU to be very loud on high. The fans themselves look the same (on quick look) as M90 etc I think its just a question of the GPU having a higher heat output than last generation. The 65mm CPU I have doesnt help, the newer x9000 should run a bit cooler since its 45mm

    Like the HP, but familiar with this model design through 9300/m90 and had good experience with Dell complete care warranty.

    It's actually hard to buy in Canada (they must lose sales to individuals because of their website) and even harder to get at a discount to list. The precision can be found new on ebay for a fraction of the dell list price. Mine cost me $2500 including the GPU upgrade