Nvidia 7200 no longer available on the DV2000T???

First of I would like to say what a great site/forum you guys/gals have here. A lot of great information and friendly people.

Ok so after many weeks of reading reviews, reading forums and visitng a few stores I decided on the DV 2000T. Mainly because of its size and the fact that it has a decent video card. The games I play are pre 2004. From what I've read the 7200 card will do an decnt job at handling those games.

A few minutes ago I went to the HP site to place an order and to my surprise I only see that HP is offering the Intel 950 onboard video. No mention of the 7200 anywhere on the site. The DV2000Z still offers the 6150 card

Does anyone know why HP did this or if they'll offer the 7200 again? Last night it was still listed as an option. I'm really bumped out right now.

Thanks for time and help.

 

Holy crap, you are right!!!!!! Why would they do that????

 

Another member pointed this out in another forum. I would guess that it's just out of stock, but to be sure, I would contact HP and ask.

 

I just send HP an e-mail. Waiting for a reply. Hope you right chrisyano.

 

I hope so too. It would be sad to see that option disappear.

Please post what you hear from them.

 

Maybe they will replace with a better graphic card?

 

I just got a reply from HP.

Thank you for contacting Hewlett-Packard and for being a valued HP
customer.

I am sorry for any inconvenience. HP does not currently offer the
dv2000t with anything but the Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950. As
an HP employee, I am unable to provide information on products that may
or may not be under development. I apologize for any inconvenience.

If you require a higher end graphics card I would recommend looking at
the HP Pavilion dv6000t series.

The HP Pavilion dv6000t series notebook is available in ready-to-ship,
as well as configure to order (CTO) models. CTO models allow you to
choose from the available components you want. Some of the options
include:

-Intel Celeron M or Intel Core 2 Duo processor
-Microsoft Windows XP Home, Windows XP Media Center Edition or Windows
XP Professional
-Up to 160 GB hard drive
-Up to 2 GB of memory
-NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) Go video controller

Not sure exactly what they mean by "currently." I'm going to wait a couple of weeks to see what happens. If they don't bring back the 7200 option I guess I'll have to go with the dv2000z.

Has anyone hear anything in regards to this issue?

 

Costco no longer offers the 7200 either.

I wonder if they are planning on throwing in a better GPU.

 

Costco's site is simply a mirror of HP's, so any changes made at HP will follow at Costco's page.

I wonder if they are planning on throwing in a better GPU.

Most likely.

 

I have a DV6147CL from Costco and went to the warehouse to see if i could trade it in for a DV2000t variant. The guy said Costco is waiting for feb 1st to order new ones due to Vista. He also said he believes HP is upgrading the laptops for Vista. So i am using the Dv6174cl until that happens. I am glad i waited, i almost bought a local used dv2130us for 950.00.

 

This is HP's reply to my inquiry.

Hope there can be a slightly better graphic card but not too pricy.

 

wow that's interesting. it could just be that they're currently out of stock on the 7200 chips. i can't see them really upgrading to a better chip as the 7200 chip is from the latest generation of notebook gpu's for "thin and lights" from nvidia. since the dv2000 was designed and targeted at the thin and light notebook segment, a better gpu seems unlikely to me as it would eat up even more power further shortening battery life.

also, when i was looking for laptop options, hp was the only manufacturer that i could find that actually offered a better alternative to the intel GMA 950. all other manufacturers offered their 13"/14" notebooks with intel GMA 950's as the only option. it might be possible that hp may drop the 7200 option and stick to the intel GMA 950.

 

So many have heard.

It wouldn't surprise me that with HP's buying of Voodoo PC, they intended to start interjecting their Pavilion lines into the gaming sector by start offering better graphics cards on their models of both desktops and notebooks.

 

upgrading graphic card would be a smart move for hp.

 

I have been going to COMP USA, Circuit City, and Best Buy. None of them have any HP's in stock. So the Vista upgrade is coming faster than others were saying.

 

The Vista Upgrade is unrelated to new HP computers, nor is HP even handling it. Microsoft (and whatever company they're using to take the orders) is.

So just because HP is sending out new models doesn't mean, at all, that the Vista Upgrade kits will be out any sooner.

 

I noticed that too. I wanted to take another look at the dv2000 series at Circuit City where it's been every time I looked. They had a dv6000 but the dv2000 was nowhere to be seen. Just an empty space. I was in a hurry (impending ice storm) so I didn't ask about it.

I'm very interested to see what they bring out next!

 

wow that really sucks that hp randomly took off the better GPU on the dv2000t.... thats very weird!

hopefully they will put in a better one, and not just leave it how it is...

i still recomend getting the dv6000t

 

Same here.

I'm wondering if the models will simply be refreshed by way of parts, or completely new models.

I hate waiting games like this.

 

Umm you are incorrect. Circuit City, Best Buy, Office Depot, and Compusa are NOT ordering any more HP's until Vista is released. So that is the reason their are no laptops in stock in these stores i mentioned. Hell even Costco has none in stock, so what does that tell you?

That Vista will be rolled out faster than consumers were thinking, i read on here that Vista would take upto 6 months after release. I Highly doubt that to be the case. Let's just sit back and watch what happens.

 

HP could be rationing the nVidia GPUs for their upcoming Vista preinstalled machines. The Intel GMA series is a bad choice for Vista and I'm sure HP wants to avoid problems.

 

Rationing? That's terrible because I am yet to order dv2000t with a dedicated graphic card.

Maybe the GPU will soon get replenished.

 

Same difference, really.

Whether it be the stores or HP, they both want the XP models cleared before Vista is released.

That Vista will be rolled out faster than consumers were thinking, i read on here that Vista would take upto 6 months after release. I Highly doubt that to be the case. Let's just sit back and watch what happens.

I thought you were referring to the Vista Upgrade kits. Not Update over all systems.

My mistake.

 

The question is not Vista's release time, it is about what dedicated card will be used in dv2000t.

basically three options:

1. no dedicated card anymore
2. go 7200 again after the stock being replenished
3. better dedicated card such as 7300

which option is likely ?

 

Well, I'm leaning (and hoping) for better dedicated cards.

I'm not gonna say HP would be crazy not to do it, but they've moved into basically every market, except gaming, and I believe with Vista, they should make that move at the same time with the games that will be released only for Vista.

On a somewhat related note:

HP has also stopped offering the nVidia 7600GT on desktop models.

 

So for me there are two possible scenarios (I bought my system last week).

1. I got lucky and bought one of the last DV2000T's to feature a dedicated GPU. Not likely.

2. I bought my system 1 month too soon. Which if they come out with a significantly more powerful system at the same price, it would flat-out suck. On the other hand I can rest easy knowing I can return my laptop within 20-something days (and that I really need it for school right now anyways).

 

I'm happy with my current setup.

My eligibility for a return will only last for a few more days.

 

Agree that the first scenario is not likely.

The scenario is also not likely. It won't be significantly more powerful and a the same the price.

My guess is that they will soon put in a better card, purportedly supporting Vista and upgrade the hardware configurations with a higher price.

 

Hey, this is what happened:

I configured a dv2000t before hp took out the Go 7200 option. I saved that page and put it in my cart.

Today, I proceeded to order that machine and it was accepted. It means that I can still have a dedicated card. Hoho...

 

This is very interesting. Earlier this week I started looking for new laptops and fell in love with the dv2000t only to be disappointed that it didn't have a dedicated graphics card. I need a laptop for college but still run photoshop and rum some games. I considered the dv6000t but it is too large to carry around like the dv2000t. I will not be buying any HP laptop untill they come out with a dv2000t with a dedicated graphics card again. Integrated video is simple unacceptable for me.

 

No worries. I am pretty sure that hp will pretty soon give its hot-selling dv2000t a dedicated G-card.

 

yeah they did have a dedicated GPU last time i checked, before they randomly took it away... you could have bought it then!

 

well this is pure speculation but, based on the showings at CES, there were laptops (MSI in particular) equipped with the ATI "X2000" series of GPU's (which have yet to be officially announced and released). it could very well be that they're paving the way to include a DirectX10 part (Radeon X2000 series or GeForce 8000 series) to launch along side Windows Vista.

if that's the case, I have until Feb 8 to return mine (hp allows 21 days to return) and order it again lol, but that depends on price.

seriously tho, all "Vista Ready" DX9 chips will be DX10 compatible since all you need is Pixel Shader 2.0 for Aero, which as far as i know includes all DX9 parts (including the GMA 950). so the other side of it may be that hp may just simply keep costs down for themselves by offering the cheaper part only. after all, their recently announced tx1000 convertible tablet notebook pc is running Aero in Vista and only comes with a the GeForce Go 6150.

 

The "cheaper part only" theory doesn't make much sense though. Logistics wouldn't be a killer and the more powerful GeForce Go 7400 is only a $70 upgrade. A less advanced driver would be even cheaper to put in or have a better mark-up if sold to close to the more advanced chip price, they would make more off the cheaper card.

It also would not make sense as they would lose a portion of their potential clients. Some people like me, like this notebook for its style and portability, but need performance out of it too. By pulling the dedicated graphics card the lose a potential selling point and risk losing sales to the competition.

 

yeah, that's why i bought one of these. i wanted a small stylish notebook that had decent 3D performance. unfortunately, i think we're only a small part of the market.

for a 14" or smaller notebook, hp was the ONLY manufacturer i could find that actually offered a dedicated gpu as an upgrade alternative. all other manufacturers i looked at only had the Intel GMA 950 as the only option for notebooks of this size. if they do end up dropping a dedicated gpu as an option and sticking only with the GMA 950, they're probably just going along with the rest of competition. that or Intel may have made a really good deal with them with the GMA 950s. after all, the GMA 950 is Vista Ready and runs Aero. you could always go w/ one of their VoodooPC gaming oriented notebooks, but those are significantly more expensive.

i guess we wont really know what they're planning until or soon after Vista is officially released on January 30.

 

maybe GMA 950 is a option for users who need battery life to be longer. As well as i know 7200 go is still available for dv2000 (i have just bought 2118tx model with 7200go)!

 

we are talking about the official hp website: hp.com

it is not available there anymore, check it out.

 

Exactly, the 14.1" dv2000t attracted many customers because of the Geforce option. They simply couldn't get it elsewhere. Now that they have pulled it, the dv2000t has lost a major sales pitch, its just another thin and light notebook.

I will also not be buying a Voodoo because I would be paying for too much performance that I don't need or want. Besides, the Voodoo series is not up to the level of some of the other competing series such as the Dell XPS or Sony Vaio when it come to performance.

I really would hate to not buy an HP because they got dumb and lost a piece of their market share.

 

Just rest assured.

HP will most probably put in another dedicated card pretty soon.

 

The dv3118tx is a pre-configured retail model that doesn't really apply to the CTO models that are at HP's site.

 

As of the current Nvidia Vista drivers, the Nvidia GeForce Go 7200 actually gets a lower Windows Experience Index score than the integrated Intel GMA 950 option, so I would imagine that as they roll out Vista the 7200 option just didn't make sense any more. Of course, in games it's a better option, but if new drivers don't improve that WEI score then there's really no point in offering it.

 

ok, i've vista rc2 installed on the dv2000t running aero with a geforce go 7200. first of all, aero runs great, however, that's pretty much as far as it goes. drivers for the 7200 under vista (obtained through vista windows update) are still extremely buggy and unoptimized. artifacts appear at times, videos don't play back smoothly (sometimes i just get a black window), and performance is just not up to par with xp drivers. i would say that those with the intel gma 950 are having a much better experience overall due to much better drivers, as indicated by the windows experience index score.

this could be the reason why hp stopped offering it with vista just over the horizon. i think it's more of a quality issue.

 

What we should ask is for those of you that have seen options like this disappear from the customization pages, have these options come back shortly thereafter?

Perhaps someone here was a buyer when Windows XP was publically released? Any options missing then and then return after public release?

I may be waiting to see if they will put back the Nvidia GeForce 7400 (or was it only the 7200?). Now, about that... should the Vista installed notebooks be available for purchase ON the 30th, or will we have to wait a little bit longer (again, perhaps someone who waited for Win XP knows)?

 

Ok, I'm starting to bite the bullet here and I am going to assume for this question that HP is not putting a dedicated graphics card into the dv2000t.

I am planning on running photoshop on this notebook. Would I be able to do non-professional but somewhat demanding image work on it with the GMA 950 with respectable filter times? I will be maxing out the RAM to 2 gigs.

 

The GO 7200 is available again.

 

Yep. Took them long enough