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    Omen 17 8750h RTX 2080 2nd ssd not working

    Discussion in 'HP' started by Guitars&Cars, Apr 11, 2020.

  1. Guitars&Cars

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    typo i7 9750H !!!! Hi all so i purchased a Samsung 970 evo plus 1tb and installed it in slot 2 or what i thougt was slot 2 . its not seeing the drive is there somthing special i need to do in the bios? also i looked up the manual and it says that slot 1 is the inner or left slot but the oem drive is in the outer slot or right slot . i just added the evo to slot 2(left inner) thinking it would do raid 0? and add them together but no dice. so in the morning im gonna try and go too micro center and get a m.2 adapter and clone it with macrium but how do i get the second slot to operate? my model is 17-cb0050nr i believe
     
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  2. senso

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    Press Win+X, open Disk Manager, it should be there, saying unallocated disk or something similar, format and attribute a drive letter and its done.

    Also, never do RAID arrays with dissimilar disks.
     
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    so i went and got a ssd enclosure and installed the 970 in that and still nothing. i tried to initialize the drive and it says critical hardware failure in disk manager. also says drive but says space unknown and at times initialize would be grayed out... just for the heck of it i pulled the ssd from my xps 9570 and i read it right away! so the brand new Samsung 970 evo plus 1tb is DOA! and that explains why the OMEN does not see it in windows or the bios i will be ordering a WD Black SN750 1tb and yes i will be buying a duplicate drive and doing RAID
    Production date of the samsung 02/28/2020
     
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    RMA or send the Samsung back.
    Also, RAID0 of high end NVMe SSD's doesn't make much sense, because you are limited by the PCIe interface and will end up adding more overhead due to the RAID, unless its a mirror, RAID0 will only net you slim gains in sequential read/write speed.
     
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    my intentions are to mirror my apology thats RAID 1
     
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    Just remember that a RAID1 is not a backup, it only covers a drive failure, nothing more.
     
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    which one is the backup where it remirrors after u replace it or can i not do that

    also do you have any recommendations? i was going to do raid 1 and replace the 1tb 5400 with a firecuda 2.5 2tb or a 2.5 ssd
     
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    A RAID1 is a mirror, but its a live mirror, any change done is done to both disks, if you want backups, grab a NAS, even a basic 2 disks unit will be more reliable than running a RAID1 on the laptop.
     
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    ok thank you very much for your help
     
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    Screenshot (7).png Screenshot (8).png what about optane? can i Raid 0 Two optane 512gb +32 and tie them to the 2.5 space ? im trying to use both m.2 slots and have it be practical. i screen shot from the amanual the oem m.2 drive options and also screen shots from the oem optane software
     

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    Don't get the firecuda, I sent it back and am just using the 1TB out of my old MSI. It has all kinds of utilization issues and hangs crystal diskinfo, a real POS (like every other seagate product). I use the HD for chunking backblaze uploads.

    Also, the Omen 17 is the absolute worst design for the M.2 heatsink/cover that I've ever seen. Different M.2s may or may not come with a thin heat spreader, it simply doesn't fit without either bending the SSD or bowing up in the middle, in which case the thermal pad doesn't make contact. I bought some nylon washers that fit on the post to try to elevate it a bit. I already burned out one ADATA in this machine, now I have an ADATA and Rocket Q and the QLC one runs hot so I don't think it's making contact. While it's under warranty I don't want to snip off the mounting lugs but if anyone else has figured this out please let me know.
     
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    i ended up getting Western Digital SN750 1td ssd in position 1 so i may get another for the 2nd m.2 and i want to replace the 1td 2.5 HDD with something. I also completely understand about the lame heat sink for the 2 m.2 slots i had to tweak mine a little poor design indeed!
     
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    It doesn't seem to care which slot the boot drive is in. It came with the H10 in the second slot so I put my replacement boot there, only to find out when adding the second that that's slot 0 (the first).
     
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    Just to chime in here - I had purchased a brand new Samsung 970 EVO from amazon and it might have an issue with this system. I was getting lock ups and data corruption. Also the drive magician software never recognized it even though it was the boot drive. I reinstalled Windows, tried different boot modes but nothing worked. I ended up returning the SSD to Amazon and got a cheaper silicon power SSD that worked fine. I might have had a bad drive or maybe it was just not compatible.
     
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    Was it overheating? That was the issue with mine.
     
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    That was not the case for me at least. I love the Samsung SSDs in general but I spent a lot of time troubleshooting the issue.
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07L6DKM8V

    This one has been working great for me. 0 issues at a much lower price.
     
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    That sounds EXACTLY like what just happened too me !!!!!!!!!
     
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    On a better note! This WD Black SN750 1TB IS Kicking Ass IMO100%