Painfully Obvious DV6/7t Switchable Graphics for Dummies

Tried it. 11.7 if thats what youre referring to. Doesnt work, at least not to kick in OpenGL acceleration. Gave a big boost to DirectX gaming though but that doesnt fix the core issue of OpenGL not working plus no manual switching. Prob wont get manual switching at all.

 

Consider what applications you run and what games you play. All this hullabaloo over lack of OpenGL support in the dynamic switchable graphics drivers might not even be an issue for you.

As a potential dv6-61xx purchaser myself, it's a minor concern for me but not the end of the world. My current "creative work" laptop is my old trusty 1st gen MacBook Pro (2Ghz Core Duo, not even a 64-bit Core 2 Duo!!) with an ATI X1600 256 MB GPU. Even if this is not fixed in the near-term, the Intel IGP is actually an improvement in OpenGL performance for me! Then again, this doesn't affect Photoshop Lightroom or Elements, just the full CS versions.

 

Damn man.

I don't know what to do.

Videos on youtube show some people playing games like Call of Duty, Battlefield, Starcraft 2 all perfectly fine.

With their 6770m, but people in the comments are saying it won't work.

I don't know what to do ...

 

The reason why I'm getting the dv6t with the Radeon HD 6770m 1gb in the first place is to play the following games:

Left 4 Dead
Left 4 Dead 2
Counter Strike Source
Battlefield BC2, Battlefield 3 (on low settings when it comes out)
COD MW3
COD Black OPs

I looked up all these on google and theyt use OPenGL of some sort.

But I've seen people with the HP Dv6t Quad Core with the 6770m play it perfectly fine.

EDIT: Also this laptop is for college. And webchattin with friends

Here this is what I found:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_OpenGL_programs

 

Actually, pretty much everyone posted with their 61xx with an AMD card found that SC2, BFBC 2 and CoD BO/MW2 works.

Most games uses DirectX primary over OpenGL if they also support it. So you're going to be fine if you use mainstream games from big publishers.

 

OKay then why do some of these games fall under the OpenGL list?

 

Cause they also support OpenGL as an option or for a different os like Mac X.

That's why they are on the list.

Some of those games are old enough to work really well on Intel cards maxed out.

Heck even Unreal Tournament 99 now supports DX11 with the graphic patch.

 

List of OpenGL programs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So in that list. The ones that say (Mac OS X version) won't have any problems with the HD 6770m and that whole video card switching problem?

Battlefield isn't on that list so i'm good.

Counter Strike and Call Of Duty are on the list.

So is l4d,l4d2 =/

 

None of the ones you posted would get problems cause they are defaulted to use DirectX, unless you change it yourself.

Pretty much ..... to make it simple.
But the list is not perfect... best just try it and run. If you don't like, you can return within the 21 days for no question asked.

Just make sure you select high performance for each game to intend to run.

 

Sorry if I'm being annoying or stupid.

I just never thought of this whole DirectX OpenGL stuff.

So why exactly do those games fall under that list then?

 

l4d are source engine which uses dx on windows.
cs 1.6 is so old that intel will run it at 100%
don't know about the original call of duty but the new ones run dx.

 

So am I a green light on getting the dv6t quad core with the HD 6770m?

 

They fall in the list even they use DirectX because they have an option to support OpenGL for those who can't or won't use DirectX.

 

So am I good to go then?

Can I get the laptop without having any problems?"

 

as long as you don't subsequently purchase an app that refuses to turn the Radeon on. Are you much of a gambler?

 

No lol.

I just have bad luck when it comes to buying things believe it or not.

I just wanna make sure this will work.

Could you give me some examples of everyday used apps that would require OpenGL?

 

head over to the HP forums--the Display section, for Pavilions. there is a list there. Also, FSX won't work and as far as I know it's a DX9/DX10 app that worked fine on my 6000, but refused to work with the Radeon in my 6100.

 

What the hell is FSX/

Ey man all I wanna know is if l4d2, battlefield, cod, cs work

Thats all i'm gonna use my 6770m graphics for.

 

In that case, I wonder how SolidWorks and AutoCAD perform.

 

I also need to know if the 6770m will run AutoCAD and MATLAB.

I haven't been able to find out if those two programs require the use of OpenGL.

TIA

 

Apparently AutoCAD started moving away from OpenGL with AutoCAD 2008 (see link) to DirectX. The current requirements for AutoCAD 2012 ( link) list:

"1,280 x 1,024 true color video display adapter 128 MB or greater, Pixel Shader 3.0 or greater, Microsoft® Direct3D®-capable workstation-class graphics card"

That being said, if you're really going to be hardcore into rendering and AutoCAD, you might want to consider something with a real rendering engine, like an Nvidia Quadro or AMD FirePro. They still make reasonable gaming GPUs depending on the game.

 

Is this switchable graphics problem present in the DV6t SE DUAL CORE version? I really wanted to get the Quad but read about the issues in the HP site reviews, but nobody there has said anything about it on the dv6tse.

 

Yes. It affects all of the DV6s with AMD graphics (though maybe not the llano based ones).

 

sorry 4 the noobiish question
What if we purchase the Dv6 60XX series i have read before that it can switch graphics manually ...will it also cause the prbs in openGl ...and what are the Downside of DV6-60XX as compared to Dv6-61XX series ...... i ahve the option to buy from these two DV6-6011tx and Dv6-6107 which one shiuld i go for???

 

Luckily, the llano based models would get direct drivers support from AMD, instead of HP.

 

God damn it, this keeps happening to me. First the Envy drops the radiance display a day before I order one and now I can't get the only other laptop that suits me, the DV6. Almost makes me wish I could stand macs so I could grab the MBP and call it a day.

 

LOL! I don't think I will EVER buy any type of Mac in this lifetime. I like Apple's ipods, but that's the only Apple product I like and that comes with a hatred of iTunes. When Herr Jobs starts giving away as much money as Bill Gates, allows Flash on his precious hardware (other than Macs), and quits being a pugnacious jerk, I MIGHT change my opinion about him...a little...maybe. In the meantime, let him sell his overpriced stuff to those looking for peer group approval, or those that think that by buying Mac, they will be uber-cool hipsters.

 

I couldn't agree more man I just gave up and ordered a DV6 quad.

 

I think I may just have to do this too. Aside from this and the old radiance envy, there's just nothing else that fits me, even this large issue considered. XPS15 and 15z are the only others even close, and even then they aren't quite what I want.

What would be the difference in battery life between the DV6 SE dual core and quad? Given both will have the best CPU option?

 

I get about 4 hours of life on the standard 6-cell battery just surfing, emailing, blog writing and a few YouTube HD videos. Alittle better than 6 hours with the 9-cell on my dv6tqe. The quads come with a 120w adapter. I have to believe it is the same with the dual since both can utilize the 6770M. But it is interesting to know that even though the same general mainboard is utilized in both editions, you cannot just drop a quad-core CPU into the SE. As I understand it, each edition has a powersupply component, of some sort, that is geared towards the CPU. I mean, you COULD drop a quad, theoretically, into the SE but there would performance issues due to the lack of power going to the chip.

So knowing all that, I would wager to guess that battery life on the SE models should be (theoretically, in my mind) better than what I gave for my quad.

 

Not much better, because unless you're using heavily multithreaded apps, the quad is powergated to keep consumption down. You wouldn't generally see a life difference for light usage.

 

Just realized they don't have a backlit keyboard anymore. Jesus christ HP makes the absolute most retarded decisions concerning their laptops. If only they didn't create the only two I want...

 

hi,
I am planning to buy a dv6 6165tx pavilion. I am not techknowledgable, but does this mean that Adobe PhotoShop and 3d modelling/animation software won't run at all on this laptop? how about others like blender, 3d studio max etc. ?
thanks
ramesh

 

^ It will run but only on Intel HD3000 instead of HD6770M. If you want it to run on HD6770M you need to use Fixed/Manual switching.

 

I have one of the dv7t 60xx series, & never worried much about all the OpenGL complaints. I recently downloaded realtech's OpenGL Extention Viewer. It seems to me that the HD3000 only supports the 1.1 spec, i.e., pretty much no extentions. The ATI driver is far more robust. Is this the problem that most have issues with???
thanks

 

It will run fine if you use the fixed mode switching.

 

So if I'm a non-gamer, do I really need a dedicated graphics card?

 

^ Integrated GPU is good enough. Get at least Intel HD3000 tho.

 

Actually, the Intel 3000HD supports up to OpenGL 3.0.

 

I recently rolled back to the original driver shipped with the machine... and haven't gotten around to update/upgrade again... Would you happen to know which driver version the HD3000 supports 3.0? I am reasonably sure 8.810.4.1000 is OpenGL 1.1

8.830.6.2000 reports OpenGL 3.0 - BUT will not pass the 3.0 rendering test ...
8.830.6.3000 reports OpenGL 3.1 - BUT will ONLY pass the 3.0 rendering test

"OpenGL driver version check (Current: 3.1.0 - Build 8.15.10.2372, Latest known: 8.830.6.3000):
Outdated version of display drivers detected
According the database, you are might be not using the latest version of display drivers for your video card."

 

Even if I get the 1080p screen?

 

^ I play Bluray quality video with the IGP with no jerkyness\lag. Unless u're playing games or do 3D modelling with OpenGL application, HD3000 is adequate.

 

Cool! I only have a certain amount of money to spend and I'd rather upgrade the processor than the graphics card...

 

^ Opps, i rather upgrade the GPU instead of CPU or ignore both and get SSD as main drive and put the HDD into ODD bay.

 

I already have 2 SSDs that I'd like to put into a dv7 if I decide to get it

 

Cool. Go for it then.