Received my dv1000, Bloatware question

I spent much of the day trying to kill all the bloatware which is expected.

However, when I killed all the Norton Internet Security stuff it also killed my ability to connect to my wireless network. It was to the point I had to reinstall all the card drivers before I could get it up and running again.

What sucks is that I did a sys restore before I reinstalled the drivers so the Norton is back. Are the drivers and the Norton tied in or no?

Should I just keep the internet security? I really prefer doing my own stuff there. Anything Symantec is overly bloated and resource hog way beyond reason.

Any tips or suggestions in how to kill all my Norton stuff and keep my connection viable would be greatly appreciated.

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I was finally able to kill all the bloatware on this machine.

First, there is a tool that Symantec puts out to kill all of it's stuff. Some people advised against it, other touted it. I finally decided to give it a shot.

It worked.

It killed ALL the processes, services, and startups. It killed the dll's and all that.

I did need to use a reg cleaner to get ALL the entries, and for that I used jv16 powertools.

At this point I can say that ALL traces of Symantec products are gone and that bloatware on this system are a thing of the past.

Whew!

Kill Norton!

 

If you do not have important stuff, I would suggest you to load complete Window XP from the scratch. I had similar problems with Norton stuff. Even after uninstalling and removing everything(did not uninstall properly), whenever I try to open a MS Word document, the plug-in try to load Norton for scanning several times( I have to hit cancel 8-10 times). This Norton stuff is worst than Virus. I installed XP freshly with CD came with laptop on V2000z( I guess you also should have similar CDs). But when Installing Drivers from Another CD, select custom and de-select this Norton stuff.

 

I second the fresh install of XP. I didn't have any problems with Norton and I also didn't have time to do a reformat. Norton can be a pain in the butt to get rid of as you found out.

 

That's weird. I just got my DV1000 and I also deleted tons of bloatware, including all the Norton stuff. But it didn't hose my wireless at all. I don't think it's too connected to the drivers, cuz mine still works fine. I hate Norton too, I much prefer AVG.

 

This has been more or less of a disaster.

The Symantec stuff is just evil. It's hard to kill always but this has just been brutal.

First of all, ANYTHING Symantec is EVIL and should never be touched by anyone for any reason.

Resourse hogging, registry clogging, memory leaking JUNK!!!

Not to mention that there are freeware apps that do everything Symantec does BETTER and with less resources.

I've uninstalled 3x and each time it kills my wireless connectivity until I re-install the drivers for the wireless card.

What's potentially worse is that when I uninstall I still have 5-7 symantec process running in the background after re-start, missing DLL pop-ups, and ghost scans.

I hate the idea of doing a clean install of XP, but I guess I will.

I did get the tech support to admit there is a known conflict with the dv1000 and the specific pre-installed Symantec package that goes on it.

One tech more or less admitted they are experimenting with embedding part of that code on the OS disc.

I'm thoroughly frustrated and am putting the notebook away 'til Thursday or Friday or so at which time I'll do the fresh install of XP.

If this doesn't work I'm sending her back and writing HP off entirely.

I will NOT accept a machine that has various broken pieces of malicious code streaming around.

Jim, have you checked your services and all that? I had no less that TWENTY-SEVEN Symantec services pre-loaded and running on this machine.

At this point I'm down to eleven but the registry is just demolished.

Norton is the KING virus/malware.

 

Could you possibly link the symantec utility that removes everything? I can't seem to find it on their site. Just received my laptop and it too has symantec crap on it.

 

Here ya go Bobfet.

One issue I have discovered with this is that it kills BITS which is necessary for MS updates. So, I'll have to find a way to fix that but I'm sure that's not as hard to kill as all this pre-installed Symantec CRAP!

http://www.majorgeeks.com/Norton_Removal_Tool_SymNRT_d4749.html

 

ok thanks spectre

 

I just found the fix for the BITS issue.

If you cannot use MS update after running the app do the following:

run notepad and paste into it the following lines

regsvr32 oleaut32.dll
regsvr32 jscript.dll
regsvr32 vbscript.dll
regsvr32 msxml.dll
regsvr32 softpub.dll
regsvr32 wintrust.dll
regsvr32 initpki.dll
regsvr32 cryptdlg.dll

save the file as c:\fixbits.bat

command prompt and run c:\fixbits.bat, it will pause on each line then you get a regsvr windows dialog with confirmation, IMPORTANT NOTE, it took almost 20 seconds to register initpki.dll

once batch file has run then type

NET START BITS

You will be all set.

This fix is from the following thread on Broadband forums:

http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/remark,13605896~start=40

 

Does anyone know what "embedding part of that code on the OS disc" means? Windows XP is neither HP's nor Symantec's to embed something in/on it. Luckily they didn't 'enrich' my L2000 with that kind of s#@t.
Just a suggestions, why don't you try running regedit and delete anything that even resembles 'symantec'. I've done it quite a few times and it worked really well.

 

It means that HP is being recruited by Symantec to work out a deal with MS that would allow Symantec code to be embedded into the operating system restore disc.

In this way, if you reinstall XP to get rid of bloatware it would automatically re-appear.

Hey Symanetc, WE DON'T WANT YOUR CRAP!!!

This is system hijacking!

Plus, considering how much this crap clogs resources it could be logically considered a DOS attack.

 

When compared w/ DELL, HP bloatware is really little brother. Dell even reservs a hidden partition, er, for the so claimed system admin.

W/ or w/o, I always reinstall my system as I prefer to set aside a partition just for data. As part of the reinstallation I install newer drivers, if any, directly from original manufacture (such as broadcom NIC, synaptics) w/o leaving any obsolete files not removed and not used by the new driver.