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    SPeedfan not showing fans?

    Discussion in 'HP' started by sjordi, Apr 30, 2007.

  1. sjordi

    sjordi Notebook Geek NBR Reviewer

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    Hi,
    I use NHC on my nc8430 but it keeps beeping me asking to shutdown as soon as I run two apps concurently. It tells me that the core CPU reaches 100C. I installed another app to measure the temperatures and it tells me I'm only at 72C.
    So I think I will get rid off NHC but need something to lower the fan speed.

    Enters SpeedFan. Problem is that in the "Fan" tab, where I'm supposed to select a fan, the list is empty.

    Any clue?

    Am I supposed to download anything related to my motherboard? If this is the case, how can I know which motherboard I have?

    Thanks for any help.
     
  2. skyline3690

    skyline3690 Notebook Geek

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    Im not sure but isnt 72*C too hot, i think my (desktops) max temp is 60*C or something. Maybe something in your laptop is stopping it from getting out heat.
     
  3. shaheenarshan

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    if you are using NHC please make sure that you download the core duo patch to measure temperatures correctly
     
  4. sjordi

    sjordi Notebook Geek NBR Reviewer

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    Yes, I did. And NHC knows only 4 temperatures: 00, 45, 80 and 100. That's it.
    And even when it shows 80 C it's definitely not 80 C. I can feel with my hand on the exhaust section of the fan that it's about 40-50 C max.
     
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    3rd party programs are known to NOT always be reliable but on my systtem the temperatures shown are correct
    try reinstalling it once again maybe that would help
     
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    what about the BIOS? Thats how i check mine.
     
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    That is hot. It should be about 54
     
  8. sjordi

    sjordi Notebook Geek NBR Reviewer

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    Measured using which utility?
    NHC indicates 45 when idle, 80 when working normally, and 100 as soon as I run two apps concurrently?

    Anyway, any info on downloading a SpeedFan profile for the NC8430?
     
  9. Tona Aspsusa

    Tona Aspsusa Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm sort-of having the same problem as the original poster (only I just chucked NHC, installed Speedfan and thought "I'll RTFM later...", and didn't think it was a problem - my fans are pretty quiet so far.) - on a nw8440, which seems to be a "sister model" of nc8430.

    I don't understand why people speak so highly of NHC, perhaps it is good for undervolting and such? I tired of it telling me my my cpu was "overheating" (over 80) when the 3 temps it thought of as cpu showed something like high-50, 65 and 76 degrees. It also didn't recognise my HD at all.

    Speedfan is much more precise, but doesn't look as pretty.

    The orginal problem, Speedfan not finding any fans: I have a feeling that I saw some comment or tip about that on a faq-page at the authors site. But I didn't investigate further (yet).

    BTW, on my old nc4000 Speedfan reports 2 fans, but no values for them. Investigating that is actually higher on my list - I'm not quite convinced it has 2 fans, and I think I actually broke one of them with compressed air a few weeks ago.

    Anyone have any tips or hints (except for RTFM...) on identifying which temp is which? Or any other "hardware control for idiots" websites?
     
  10. skyline3690

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    my manual says that the max temp is 60*C but it usually runs at only about 29-35*C
     
  11. Tona Aspsusa

    Tona Aspsusa Notebook Enthusiast

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    Actually, I don't *know* this, am not an expert, hobbyist, modder or any kind of hardware freak, but I have the impression that notebook parts are at least slightly more tolerant of higher temps than random desktop parts.
    I mean, they would *have to* be, wouldn't they? Or we'd hear a lot about randomly fried laptops from when people move a very dusty machine onto their laps or beds or something and accidentally obstruct the airflow...

    Fact is: my old nc4000 before I finally (superficially) cleaned it a few weeks ago showed temperatures of around 60-80 (except for the HD, mostly below 55). And that machine was on / had been on 24/7 running eMule (for months on end, average 5-10 days between boots and only 1 month a year truly resting and 1-2 months intermittently resting (while being moved).

    It did feel unpleasantly hot at times, but exhibited no signs of not running properly.

    I did try to read a bit of the faq's and helpfiles for SpeedFan, but found nothing immediately helpful. Most of it presupposes a much greater knowledge of hardware and how stuff actually works than I have.

    Maybe we should throw ourselves on the mercy of the nice people in either the Hardware forum or the windoze forum here?
     
  12. sjordi

    sjordi Notebook Geek NBR Reviewer

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    Well it looks like NHC was connected to TZ4_ instead of TZ0_ which is the real Digital Thermal Sensor, TZ4_ being the fan speed and for debugging purpose
    Now at least, my laptop stays idle à 62C and at 71C when used at full throttle.
    No more high speed fan, no more shut down warnings! How welcome.