Should I change my order on my zv6000

I have the following notebook on its way,

HP Pavilion zv6000
AMD Athlon(TM) 64 3500+ (2.2GHz/512KB L2 Cache)
15.4" WXGA BrightView Widescreen
128MB ATI RADEON(R) XPRESS 200M w/Hypermemory(TM)
512MB DDR SDRAM (1x512MB)
60GB 5400 RPM Hard Drive
8X DVD+/-RW w/DL capability
54g(TM) Integ. Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN & Bluetooth
12 Cell Lithium Ion Battery

and I wanted to know if I should return the order and get the following two upgrades and is it worth the extra two weeks wait?

AMD Athlon(TM) 64 3800+ (2.4GHz/512KB L2 Cache)
LightScribe 8x DVD+/-RW

The increase in speed is nice, but I don't think it will make much difference.

I realize that the lightscribe dvd burner doesn't burn DL DVDs, but on the other hand the lightscribe media is alot cheaper, it can make design for cd-r as well, and takes less time to burn the design versus the burn time of DL DVDs. Plus I already have a DL dvd burner in my desktop.

I have been racking my brain trying to make a decision and I want any input that can help decide one way or the other.

 

if your returning it for light scribe it is not worth it.If you are doing it for a better cpu then return it and get a compaq r4000 with the amd athlon 64 4000+ 2.4ghz 1mb cache

 

If i were you i'd just stick with your original purchase. i dont think you'll see much difference in speed. maybe you'll be able to open an application 1/2 second faster, but both processors are fast enough for today and tomorrow's computations. Lightscribe isn't really a big deal for me, so i guess that should be our determining factor, although a small factor compared to the overall bundle.

if you do upgrade, you might not have to wait extra long. basically all hp shipments on the zv6k have been stopped for the past 2 weeks b/c none of htem have been shipped out of china. there's a good chance that if you order now you'll still make the boat and it'll be just as quick.

 

To be honest I prefer the zv6000 over the R4000 and the cost of the athlon 64 4000 with the zv6000 is a little more than I wanted to spend.

 

Yep, Hp keeps reiterating to me that my order placed on 05/04 will ship in between 2-4 days from now...not bad at all.

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Get the Gateway M680 instead. Better features for practically the same price (plus 100-300 depending on the configuration).

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by cy007

 

It depends on how bad you want LightScribe. I wouldn't do it for the processor, even if it was an Athlon 4000. I don't think you'll ever notice the speed difference, unless you're cranking huge finite element models overnight, or creating computer animation on the scale of "Lord of the Rings". For normal use, you won't notice it at all.

Of course all of this is IMHO. YMMV!

Russ

HP ZV5000z
Athlon 64 3000+
768mb RAM
60gb 4200rpm HD
nVidia G0 440 64mb
DVD-RW/CD-RW
1394, 5-in-1 card reader
15.4" wide screen
802.11 b/g w/Speedbooster

 

Anomaly,
First of all the waiting is always the worst but that shouldn't be your concern. You really want the LightScribe which ends up costing a small fortune. The lightScribe is a cool,neat fun feature but the cost when there are other options is outrageous...unless money is not a concern! The increase in speed like everyone's telling you is not noticeable!!! You know that you really want the lightScribe...that's what It's coming down to!

I have the same system,configuration with the 2 upgrades you're considering. I've had for a couple of months . There's nothing wrong with it, it was a gift along with a 17" Gateway (my suggestion is don't even think Gateway) they were both pre chosen and bought for me to decide which I liked better. The Gateway was out in less than 5 minutes and I love the HP especially w/the lightScribe but I was only looking for 17"...so It's going back unless money appears out of no where and I would keep it also!

Honestly if that is a high priority for "you" and you are not concerned about how expensive it's going to be at all, then don't worry about the wait time and order it with the added 3800+ 2.4 GHz.

What you have ordered is already perfect! I'm suggesting that if you realize the overall cost of the LightScribe and it's a non issue then why not change your order for both upgrades if you're going for the Lightscribe!

The wait sucks but if it's something that's nagging at you that you really want (the Lightscribe...not for the speed) then order it! Realize it's definitely not worth it for the speed only...you're not going to really see any difference! Honestly!

I think It's the LightScribe firstly that you really want.......

Sorry I forgot to mention that the one I have/had did include a 5in1/6in1 (I don't use it so I can't remember how many it reads) card reader also a tiny bit more difference in the overall configuration...... It's all packed and ready to go back now! It's not important anyway! Edited by me!

Best Regards and post what you decided,

Heart [ ]

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P.S The 8000 series which is a 17" compared all the time to the Dell 9300 (which I prefer) was sturdy and OK . I used a HP for years and still am hanging on to it (the display could go any second ...It's that bad) because the HP in general is so sturdy,Ive used it to where even though the display is going I feel for the price the person spent on it who gave it to me years ago that it was worth it! I'm using right now and I don't now why because I have a new one. I'm attached to it! It's been a life saver and I never called for service ,had hardware issues until now! Not one hardware issue until now and unfortunatelly at this point the display is a huge issue!


I still hear in your post that you seem to want the LightScribe that's why I came back ,added this comment and also life is too short not to order what you want for the right reasons! As long as money is not the issue then do it!

I wasn't going to post again but when I saw your's I had to say something because you can hear it in your writing!

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Buy one you want with anything and everything that's going to make you happy !

 

I just realized that when I had ordered the notebook the DL capability wasn't available... so now I have to consider if its worth the upgrade to get the Double Layer drive.

"If you find yourself in a hole, it's time to stop digging."

 

Thanks for all the input.

heartofgold,
My main concern is the lightscribe, the 3800 I would get only I decided to change my order. I am confused about why you said that the lightscribe would end up costing a small fortune, since to add the option is only going to cost me $25 so if you could explain that.

The problem is that I know that whatever I get I'm going to be happy with it atleast initially and this rate I don't think I can handle the addition wait.

 

Anomaly,
I assumed that you are aware that you have to buy specific DVD's to use the LightScribe ...the more costly ones (that's it). For some the cost is not worth it or too much! I'm sure you have an idea how much CD's,DVD's ,Dual Layered DVD's, etc... cost!

Before I go any further I'm not the most informed person on the details to your question. I did use the LightScribe,I loved it, it takes a while to print (so to speak) but the cost is not adding the feature (that's nothing) It's the cost of buying the correct DVD's to use (the're more expensive )!

Some one could try to answer this in more detail for you. But that's really where the cost comes in!

I still think you want it bad...I think your point of upgrading the processor "Only" if you order the LightScribe is worth it. What I already mentioned is where the cost comes in and can be expensive.

I think the way you're talking that you will be happy either way but you want that LightScribe and if you order that ,you might as well upgrade anything else you feel would be worth it. I think your 2 choices are wise. The only other thing I would consider upgrading (and not now) one day is the Ram!

There are other things you can purchase to inscribe on your DVD's but I think you should go for this! It's too obvious how much you want it!!! It's worth it for some people and only something else to go wrong for others ( or whatever their reason is for not wanting it) . For you ...definitely go for it! It's more costly to use different types of DVD's and the type you would need if you're going to do it alot is the most expensive! I still think at this point you want it too bad. I loved it! It is cool and neat! And I'm too old to be using the word "cool" !!! I'm just not able to keep 5 new notebooks I'm trying to choose from and it doesn't fit my immediate needs.

That's really the only cost and yes the DVD's are the most costly!

If you order the LightScribe ,then order the 3800 2.4 GHz with it! You might as well! It seems like it would make it more worth it with the 2 choices! The wait is always bad when you want something now but that shouldn't be your concern at all! Being happy is what's important and this purchase is affordable and should meet your needs for quite awhile. Everything to do with technology is outdated in 5 minutes!

Post back when/if you changed your mind...I'll be curious!

All the best,
Heart [ ]

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wait...so is the lightscribe dual layer burner or not? im confused.

 

Lightscribe is neither more expensive to use nor any slower than the other DvD writers. However, if you ever intend on actually utilizing its image burning feature aka Lightscribe, then you will require certain discs that currently are RIDICULOUSLY expensive when compared to regular discs. (For example, I usually can buy 8x Verbatim DVD+R for about 30cents each, Lightscribe would cost roughly $1.25-1.60ea)

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No, the new Lightscribe option by HP on these models does NOT have dual-layer burning. If you want that, you'll have to select the other DVD+RW drive option.

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hopefully the prices for lightscribe disc will fall in a year or so.

 

Anomaly,
At least you have confirmation that the Disk's you would use are more expensive...this is where I mentioned the cost would come in to play. As for being slow....It's some what of a slow process printing the image but I wouldn't worry about that! Some of us have really slow printers.

The cost is alot per disk and may be fine with you! If it's a non issue , then get it and don't worry about it! You wanted to know why I said it was so costly but I didn't feel the need to have been so extreme in my answer! One reason being that the disks were about .99 each last week in (Henrietta, Greece,Irondequoit and Webster)!!! You can get an idea! Just be prepared if you decide that this is where the cost is! They do go on sale for a little less than the mentioned price or you can buy online hopefully finding the best deal if you really want it and can handle the cost! Yes! This is where I told you the cost comes in to play! If you want it,can afford it...then go for it!

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Mashimaro

Well I wouldn't be upset if you own it or are going to buy it! So you could spend $2.00 if you purchased them that high and give an incredible gift! You could still spend $14.00 on 10 of them which is what it cost to buy them for me and with that $14.00 you could find a way that you've made out ahead of your cost!

It's not for everyone! I wouldn't have purchased it for me because it is too expensive but for some the cost is nothing compared to what they feel they get out of having the LightScribe. You can bet I used every one of them before the HP is headed back in a day or two .

Keep it for special occasions or when you feel like treating yourself! Hopefully and I would assume the price comes down ...but have a little fun with it if you already have it! Try it once ,wait awhile!

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P.S When I said it printed a little slow it has nothing to do with the processor speed! I thought if "anomaly" was upgrading to one thing ...then why not ???

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damnit...now i wish i've gotten a regular burner instead of lightscribe...GAH!!![ !]

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by AMDemon

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by heartofgold

P.S When I said it printed a little slow it has nothing to do with the processor speed! I thought if "anomaly" was upgrading to one thing ...then why not ???

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I apologize, I understand now what you meant. I agree, might as well get more than one upgrade if it means the same wait time.

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Hi,
I wanted to ask real quick what you ended up deciding! You obviosly understand where the cost comes in to play now?

Heart

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Yeah I understand where the cost comes in to play, I already knew that the media was more expensive but I wasn't sure if that was what you were referring to. The cost for DL media is even more than lightscribe and that was another reason why I was leaning more towards lightscribe.

I think I have decided to just keep my original order mainly because I don't think I can wait the extra two weeks and I'm okay with the 3500. Plus I figure I will just wait for a better that optical drive than what HP is offering and install it myself, maybe one that does lightscribe and has Double Layer support. Hopefully, by then there will be improvements in the burn speed of double layer media and lightscribe time design and the costs of both types of media.



"If you find yourself in a hole, it's time to stop digging."

 

sorry for the confusion, ordering now will make your order take longer. i thought they just shipped one big bulk but here's part of an email from hp:

"but notebooks are actually shipped out when they are completed and not in rounds."

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by heartofgold

 

Anomaly,
That's OK! I saw that you mentioned you already had something on your desktop. You'll be happy like you said either way! I just heard in your tone that you really wanted it bad. So now you know more and It's not the same feeling and I even told you that I loved it but I personally would not buy it! I don't know if you saw that post or not. I did mention since it was a gift and I had 10 bought for me ...I made a point of using every single one before packaging it back up!

It's not a choice for everyone! If you have , don't kick yourself! Just use it for special occassions, wait ,etc... It didn't cost that much to add it on as a feature and and It's there if you want to use it! I mentioned that it would make a great $2.00 gift for someone!


Enjoy your purchase,

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