Sign My Petition: HP/Compaq AMD Athlon 64 Notebook

http://www.petitiononline.com/hpamd64/petition.html

thank you.

 

already did

 

its for a better GPU option in teh HP/Compaq AMD64 notebooks. They aren't even directx 9 compatable!

 

I don't want to say this again, but I will reiterate from the business standpoint that the ZV5000Z is a low-end mainstream book. Look at the other sub-par offerings it has like the weaker hard drive and less options for the screen. Look at the wording too for the series.

"With a premium on value"

Take the zx5000 description now. "Enjoy state-of-the-art performance in a sophisticated, mobile design."

Or take the zd7000 one. "HP Pavilion zd7000 series notebooks are optimized for desktop performance and speed in a sophisticated design and features an amazing 17" wide-viewing angle display with superb resolution."


I'm not commenting on the processor. I'm commenting on that model. They won't stick in a great GPU in this model since it's not what they would consider "high-end." No manufacturer does this, not even Dell. If they did, we'd be seeing ATI Mobility Radeon 9600's on budget models too. It's not going to happen.

If you want AMD + good GPU, you would have to petition for a "high-end" AMD model instead, like they have on the desktops.

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Compaq Presario 2800T
Pentium 4-M 1.6 GHz - 15" UXGA
512 MB RAM - 40 GB (5400 rpm)
ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 64 MB
Pretty good for 2002 isn't it?

 

Eli, how much work would it take (re: Money) for HP to put together a "High End" amd machine? Are we talking about a completely different machine altogether or just slapping a new video card in the existing model and remarketing it with a few modified options? After all, what's the difference between the Compaq r3000t dedicated and the r3000t integrated?

I think that the petition is here to more or less tell HP that they're missing out on a part of the AMD market. There seems to be a hell of a lot of people who want an AMD machine with a good gpu put together and sold through HP. Quite frankly, I'm not sure how HP would plan on providing the afforementioned to their consumers, but I think the underlying point of the petition is to let HP know that people WANT and WILL PAY FOR the AMD system they have now, just with a better card. Regardless of how they do it.

 

plus the harddrive and memory isnt an issue because the harddrive can be swapped out with a hitachi 7200 60gb drive, and the memory can be swapped out with pc3200. the video card currently cannot be swapped out and thus people are upset that they would be stuck with a subpar graphics card.

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by j4ever

 

alright i was petition signer 69[ ]

zx5000 :: 2.4M :: 512 DDR :: 40gb 4200 RPM HD :: 15.4" :: Radeon 9600 Mobilty M10 :: Aquamark3 22,856

 

I signed...If they do decide to put a better video card in the R3000Z within the next 30 days I'll be shipping mine back!

 

I am planning on buying this HP with the AMD 64. I do not play games or edit any video. Is there any reason that I should be concerned about the video card not being any better as discussed in these threads that I have been reading on?



Mary George

 

You guys are gonna love this. I'm at work today, and during one of the brief moments where I have a few minutes of downtime (I work at a pool hall, on shift as the daytime bartender/manager) and I see a strange number on my cell. I'd let one or two regulars use my cell, so I was a little questionable, until I saw the strange area code. So I answer.

Turns out, HP DOES actually respond to some of the emails they get.

So there I am, talking to a HP rep. I can't remember her name, because I was too astounded that I was getting a call back to pay attention. She asked me about my problems with the zv5000z/Compaq r3000z... I had to correct her as to the fact that I didn't have one. We talked for a few minutes about the machine.

Pretty much, I told her about the outdated graphics card and the lack of options. Also chimmed in a plug about the petitions online for HP to take a look at adding to the machine as well as this forum and a few others. She seemed pretty shocked about the amount of feedback I was giving and the fact that there were PLENTY more who were concerned about the same thing. We talked about nvidia offerings and the possibility of an ati card.

When it was all said and done, I kept hammering two points: 1) It didn't make sense to most people that a state of the art cpu was paired with a two year old gpu (she agreed with me on that note, even though she couldn't explain it) and 2) if it's being advertised as a gaming notebook, it'd make sense to put a gaming gpu there. Whether it took refreshing the line or adding a new one, giving the consumer more options would mean probably getting at least TWICE as much sales for that laptop than they get now. WE ended the conversation by her promising (very enthusiastically I might add) that she would pass the word to the higher ups, and see if something might be done.

I realize I'm not the best person to sit and try to articulate the concerns a lot of people have... hell, it was in the middle of my shift with my BOSS (the owner) staring at me through the last portion of the call. And I also realize this lady might not have had much of a clue. But she gave me hope, and she DID sound like she knew what we were talking about.

But I will say this: SOMEONE at HP is paying attention to the suggestions we're making. I say lets keep hammering them and see how they respond.

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by marygeorge

 

Unless any future applications come out that require direct x 9. with all the graphical enhancements in the next windows os, i wouldnt doubt that dx9 could be used somehow.

they question i have is why buy a futureproof processor with an outdate gpu? doesnt make any sense at all to me.

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by j4ever

 

Windows Longhorn isn't expected to be out until, what, 2007? At least she'll have the right CPU for it, Longhorn is likely to be 64-bit only. It's too far away to worry about anyhow.

Yes, for anything other than heavy 3D work/play the GeForce 440 is fine, and better than any of the integrated graphics solutions. Editing video would be fine too (that counts as 2D). The screen is GREAT, get 1680x1050 res if you can.

 

Longhorn won't be the first 64-bit windows. A trial version of XP-64 is out already: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/default.mspx
I would reccomend this to anyone with an athlon 64 and two hard drives/two partitions.

GPU cooling (100°C->75°C)* Inspiron 8600 * 1.8ghz Pentium M * 128 MB Radeon 9600 Pro Turbo (337/242 -> 400/300) * 2x256 MB DDR2700 SDRAM * Aquamark 3: 24058 * 3DMark'03: 3404 * 3DMark'01 SE: 13120

 

Yes, and 64-bit WinXP won't require the high-end GPU that Longhorn will. Supposedly we'll see a new beta soon, I wouldn't bother with the current public version that's nearly a year old. Hopefully we'll see the final version by the end of the year?