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    So HP doesn't include Power Management software of its own?

    Discussion in 'HP' started by lakersgo, Nov 12, 2006.

  1. lakersgo

    lakersgo Notebook Evangelist

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    Coming from a thinkpad R40, I've always loved the power management software that came with it. It's odd that HP doesn't include one and nor does Toshiba. I know there is NHC for good measure, but why wouldn't they develop a power management software to work specifically with HP/Compaq lappy? Just wondering.
     
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    I recently picked up the 6149t and was wondering as well about power consumption. That Nvidia helps drink the juice....

    Anyone have some good suggestions for software to help conserve battery life?
     
  3. Azinfellow

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    Try using NHC beta release for duo cores.....that's I am using and its good for battery management and has time for battery life.
     
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    lakersgo Notebook Evangelist

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    Does RMClock show the battery life?
     
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    yeah im using RMClock too. yes RMClock shows battery life and alot of other important things too. The thing is that you can set ur laptop of performance or power saving accustomed to AC or battery usage.
     
  7. lakersgo

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    Ok, I just installed RMClock. It's not as user-friendly as NHC but I think I can handle it. One thing though, most of the terms used in RMClock I have no idea what they mean. So if someone can help clear up some of these terms that would be great.

    1. What's the difference between CPU load and OS load? What's the implication of them?
    2. What's CPU throttle?
    3. When setting profile, should I use P-stat or throttling (ODCM)?
    4. What does "enable logging" do?
     
  8. vassil_98

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    CPU throttling is the speed step feature of your CPU (intel uses the term speed step) that is the ability of hte CPU to go to lower multiplier, reduce the power of the CPU and consequently reduce the voltage and improve battery life.

    P-state transition refers to the same thing. What's your CPU? 1.8ghz AMD Turion for example have has 9 multipliers therefore 9 possible p-state transitions (9 x 200mhz = 1800 mhz). You can restrict the CPU to the multipliers you want it to jump to by defining only the p-state transitions you need. The min is 4 (800 mhz). Usually people put in there 4x, 6x, 8x and 10x .

    Don't bother with logs, just make sure RMClock starts with Windows. Further, after some experimenting, you can find the lowest stable voltage levels for each multiplier, which is called undervolting.
     
  9. lakersgo

    lakersgo Notebook Evangelist

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    I am using RMClock 2.2 candidate 3.

    I don't see option to undervolt. I've just read an article about how to undervolt with RMClock, but that article was written with previous version of RMCLock. I suspect the new version doesn't support undervolting anymore.
     
  10. sgtarky

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    good lord you people dont think there is enough bloatware packaged with the things?
     
  11. miner

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    The main use of RM Clock is to undervolt. 2.2 RC3 does just that. You just need to choose the multipliers and voltages you want in the Profiles tab and then setup the different power schemes. Then choose which power scheme would be the default when on A/C or battery. The final step is to make sure yor system is stable with the voltages and then set RM to startup with Windows.
     
  12. lakersgo

    lakersgo Notebook Evangelist

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    Ok, I have an Intel Core Solo 1.86ghz CPU.

    I found the option to undervolt now, but on the "general" page, it lists:
    Minimal 6.0x 0.950V
    Maximal 14.0x 1.262V

    Now when I go to profile, every FID is set to VID 1.262V. The lowest setting for VID is .950V...so that means I can't undervolt when my processor is running at 6.0x. Is this right?
     
  13. miner

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    Yes, its not possible to undervolt with the lowest multiplier. Intel has put this limitation. But you can still undervolt at any other multiplier and in general you should see reduced temperatures even though the battery saving might not be noticable.
     
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    **** Intel!
     
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    Another problem I have with RMClock is that it doesn't show Battery Life time remaining. It shows battery charge remaining but not the time. Is this normal for you guys?
     
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    It shows the battery time remaining only for supported batteries. So, if it cant detect it properly it cannot display the battery time.
     
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    I still haven't found a program to do this for an HP notebook in the last two years.
     
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    I didn't get any bloatware with RMClock...
     
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    Regarding NHC: Does undervolting my C2D T7200 in my nc8430 require the pro edition, or is it just not possible?

    Also, is anyone else noticing their lappy running particularly hot under NHC? I'm hitting 80C (well, according to NHC) just running Firefox/Outlook/Gaim. That seems a little hot. The computer idles at 70C and the moment I start loading pages and whatnot and the temp jumps to 80 very quickly.

    I previously had been running RMClock 2.15 to undervolt and that must have kept it much cooler, I guess.

    I think I'm going to try RMClock 2.2 rc3 soon too, just for the heck of it.