Thinkpad or HP?

I have no intention to start a flame war but I am now seriously considering to return my thinkpad and get a dv2000t. Called Lenovo today.

But I have no experience with any HP laptop before but I already had some experience with Thinkpad T43p which is very noisy.

So compare to Thinkpad, what advantages does HP generally have (except for being cheaper) and is dv200t with a good buy?

Thinkpad so far is reputed for its durablity, so how durable dv2000t is going to be?

 

I did almost the opposite: returned an HP dv2000t and bought a T60. Sorry to hear that you don't like the T43. But if you're picky, then I don't think you're going to be impressed by the HP either. Trackpad issues, weirdly shaped extended battery, heavy compared to a 14-inch T-series, so-so build quality ... it's no picnic. Also, do you want the glossy screen?

Chris

 

I have no idea why you don't like your T43.... Since I'm afraid you will sell your HP after you return T43.
T60 is great.

 

The dv2000 will definitely not be as durable or last as long. Thinkpads are just known for their reliability so it's not really a comparison. My friends are all pretty happy with their T43's but if it really is very noisy, consider exchanging or going for a t60?

 

Both have cons and pros. But if HP can last 4 years and it is quiet, I would opt for a HP.

I am thinking of using a mouse anyway so I don't mind the trackpad issue. The battery shape is not problem for me.
Even the screen is glossy but it is widescreen and good for movie watching.

 

I just recently bought a HP Pavilion 2000t, my first impression tells me that it is really not a business class laptop. Very slicky design, but I always wonder how durable it truly is, compared to a thinkpad.

With a Thinkpad, I can be rough with it..carry it around..and use it anywhere I like, and it just runs. No question asked. With HP, it is going to take sometime for me to feel that way if that laptop lasts long enough for my daily usage.

If you are really thinking about HP, why don't you look into Compaq laptops? I had Evo series, and it was great, very robust. Compaq Evo series is definitely my second choice in mind if I have a pick a business class laptop. .. Oh eh.. guys, did HP can Evo series? cuz I don't see it on Compaq web site.

 

Really, the closest competitor that HP has to the ThinkPads are the HP Compaq Business line models. Very solid, and very quiet. Although, a ThinkPad may be just a bit more solid, I've gotten into bumps that this thing survived.

 

HP NC6400 is a good choice.

 

Perhaps the ThinkPad R series might fit. The construction is not quite as solid as the T, but still much better than your average notebook. Plus you get the same great keyboard, support and ThinkVantage tools. They are on sale at the moment at Lenovo.com. CTO models starting at $699.

 

Check out one of these HP business line models. Going from a thinkpad to a consumer line notebook just does not make sense to me.

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF04a/321957-64295-89315-321838-f33.html

Good luck and happy computing!

 

This T43P is a good machine in general, but the only thing I abhor is the noises it makes: both from the hard drive and the fan.

I know that dv2000t is not of good quality but it has a widescreen, core2 dual processor.

And it is quiet isn't it? A notebook of current configuration will obsolete in 3 years anyway, why made it so durable while you can use the price difference to purchase a new one three years later?

 

It has a Core Duo (not a Core 2 Duo)

Yes, I'll say that about it - The first thing I noticed was how quiet it was. You almost want it to make some sort of noise just to prove it's switched on!

Yup - All true.

Of course you can also consider the resale value in three years time. And how likely over the course of the three years you'll need to replace broken components. Or that *one* time you knock it off a table, how likely it is to survive.

 

Comparing a ThinkPad and a HP consumer notebook is just silly...

 

It does have a core 2 duo option.

Jhonan: any comments on the screen of dv 2000t?

 

From a certain standpoint, I'd have to agree. I have an old T20 that I use frequently (as my backup) and as for durability, the Thinkpad is superior. I am a fan of HP consumer laptops, but they are flimsy in comparison. I buy them simply because they fit my budget and needs. The old cliche "You get what you pay for" applies here.

As for quietness, this old T20 is the most silent lappy I've ever heard. You would almost think the internal fan never worked. My Compaqs are like a microwave in comparison (R4000/V5000). Of course that may be a hardware generation gap thing (PIII vs A64/Sempron)..........

 

Yea, the screen was lovely - very bright and clear, and good for watching DVDs, if that's what you're into.

However, I couldn't get used to the widescreen ratio. For the sort of work I do (spreadsheets, dev work, website design) 1280X800 just didn't suit. The 800 vertical was the problem I had. I'd have been much better off with a 1024x768 ratio screen.

In the end I did the same as EagleDevil and returned my dv2000 because the touchpad wasn't working correctly. So I'm going with the Thinkpad T60. Which, in all honesty, is more suitable for a business user.

 

I own both - an ancient ThinkPad and a new HP nc8430. In my opinion, ThinkPads have the best keyboards - IBM has decades of experience in making keyboards for typewriters prior to the information age. The HP I have is a business class laptop with a powerful graphics card that is perfect for games. It is of incredibly good quality and I love it dearly.

What else do you want to know?

 

Are you referring to HP NC8430 as "incredibly good quality"? Is it queit? If that is the case, I would consider taking it.

Does it provide global warranty?

 

Yes I was. Only on rare occasions have I heard the fan and its when I am doing intense gaming. Even then it wasn't that loud. I have a 3 year warranty but I do not know if it is global.