Tooooooooo Hot 9600m gt

Hello,

I recently switched from Dell to Hp and purchased a dv5-1015tx laptop. Config: P7350,3gb DDR2-800,250gb 5400rpm,Nvidia Geforce 9600m GT 512 mb dedicated ddr2, infinity wxga screen..., my major problem is that the Geforce card is burning hot, idle temperature as seen in rivatuner is between 55-65 degrees,while i run Race driver Grid(after i play for about 30min), it shoots up to 99 and sometimes even goes up to 100-101..These are definitely abnormal,also i tried to raise the back of the laptop by about 2 inch as one of the guys here suggested,still no change....also i dont work in an a/c room.

 

- make sure you're running the latest drivers from www.laptopvideo2go.com
- you could apply Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound to improve heat dissipation
- ensure that the fan and vents are unobstructed
- ensure that the fan is running
- clean out the cooling system for any dust using a canister of compressed air and a vacuum cleaner

Beyond that, there isn't much that you can do; if it continues operating at those temps, I would return the laptop. Nvidia GPUs are risky pieces of garbage at the moment.

 

your not supposed to need to work in an ac room to use a lappy. HPs have pretty crappy cooling systems.

I'd say return the HP and get something else. Maybe a Sager? A Vaio? depending on your needs

 

bog thats not true, NP8660 runs at like 44-50 idle and a bit over 60s under heavy load, and it uses a 9800 GT. the 9xxx series are fine, the difference is in the actually quality of the laptop.

Though i'm really disappointed to hear this, i had thought hp got better with the temps with the newer dv5s.

 

Different laptops tend to have different cooling systems; and if you've looked at most of Sager's past reviews, they make stellar cooling systems because they don't even try to fit a fat girl in a miniskirt, so to speak. They're in the business of making gaming laptops; the design goals are completely different from HP's dv5t.

 

well you noe a 9800 Gt in a 15.4 is pretty much a fat girl in a mini. lol. no argument over different goals, i'm just saying 9600 GT isn't flawed so to speak unlike the 8xxx series, hp just doesn't have a adequate cooling system for it.

artic cooling would cool it down some 5-7 C, so idk maybe returning the laptop is a better option?

 

Nvidia GPU failures doesn't seem to be so much dependent on how hot the GPU gets, but rather on the thermal cycles of heating up and cooling down rapidly that cause stress cracks in the solder used.

The difference between the max/min temperatures of the GPU is, I think, greatly dependent on the laptop's cooling design, which differs greatly from manufacturer to manufacturer. I think this explains why Dell and HP have experienced a higher percentage of issues than, say, Sager or other laptop makers that incorporate more robust cooling solutions. Still, better cooling does not guarantee that the GPU won't fail.

More on the issue:

source: http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/39045/135/

 

Race driver Grid has pretty high reqs, are you running it on max graphics? Compared to other dv5t owners, your max load temps seem like 10 C or so higher, have u tried gaming from beginning when comp is at 45 C with the back raised?
If even then ure getting close to 95+, couple solutions are undervolting/notebook cooler, im waiting to get my dv5t and running it on Nwn2/WoW to see what kind of temps I get before pulling tigger on NZXT Cryo. Zalman NC2000 is really good too, but I think ill go with NZXT because vents are on back, so I dont gota pull laptop down like 3 inches to allign etc.

Lastly there have been couple defective dv5t's that heat more then they should, so if none of those things work, then it may just be that.

 

A cooler might help. These are my temps stressed with ATItool and ORTHOS, both stress GPU and CPU to it's max. Undervolting helps drop your CPU temps, which helps drop the overall temp of the laptop by a bit too. I have a Zalman Nc2000.

 

Wow sounds like you've got a really hot unit there. I've run Crysis for hours and the avg temp is about 75C, and occasionally HWMonitor would show that I've max out at 97C a few times, but only rarely.

 

Hi,
I too am seeing temperatures of 50-55C at idle on my hp dv5-1015tx and during gaming I've seen it go up to 81C (stopped playing after that as I was not sure if that is too high ?).
Was wondering what is the maximum temp of the 9600M GT above which I should be alarmed? and where can I get this info from (can't seem to find it at the NVIDIA site)?

 

Maximum temps in the 90C range or higher can cause long-term problems for the GPU as well as surrounding components. A maximum temperature of 81C is acceptable for the 9600M GT.

 

Thanks for the info. So I'm assuming temps < 90C are ok on my laptop then?
BTW is there an official max temp for this GPU? or Laptop? any links?

 

Is the topic starter from India? If he/she is then those temps. are normal for a 9600m GT-dv5t combination.

 

Not sure if the topic starter is from there, but I am from India (South).
I continued playing and the temps reached a max of 88C (uslually around 85C)? Is this ok for the DV5-1015TX?
Also doesn't Nvidia specify the max and operating temperatures of their GPU's anywhere?

 

Nvidia isn't forth coming with their operating parameters(Intel's is right off their page)

i think the consensus here is around 90 C is about as high as you would want to push it

 

I agree. Just got done playing for 1.5 hours. 79C the most. Settings were at the max I could run smoothly.

 

I'm wondering if the added size of the DV7 allows it to dissipate heat better(The OP had a dv5t)

 

that's right. bigger chassis = better airflow.

 

yeah,i am from Bangalore,India....Bangalore stays at around 30-35 degrees celsius. While running FIFA 09 Demo Gpu temp hits 93max.But,while running AOE3 it shoots up to about 95-103 degrees celsius....Zalman NC2000's are not available here...

 

Use anything you can get, those temps are too high.

- undervolting the CPU will decrease the heat transferred by the heatpipe that is shared by the GPU and CPU.

- cooling pad (duh).

- raise the back of a laptop with a book or something similar when gaming; since the fan sucks air in from the bottom, increasing available airflow can decrease temps by 10-20C.

- apply Arctic Silver 5 to the northbridge chipset, CPU, and GPU if possible (some manufacturers use thermal pads that can't be replaced with thermal compound). Higher quality thermal compound can decrease temps cosiderably.

 

dv5 sucks air from the bottom and releales it at the back? so that means the best cooling pad will be the blowing air instead of sucking hot air?

 

I am thoroughly confused!

 

Most laptops do suck in air from the bottom, yes. You can test the dv5 fan direction by taking a tissue and bringing it near the bottom fan grill. There are also some cooling pads that can switch fan spin direction, which is a useful feature for different laptop designs.

 

You know it!

 

Zalman Coolers are available in Ritchie Street, Chennai. If any of your friends or relatives stay there, ask them to buy and send it to you. For a tropical climate like that of India, where difference between min. and max. temps are very less, those temps in your laptops are normal.

 

Yup. Just see my temps. Then take a look at a macbook's temps under load. Huge difference. Thin is in, but thin is hot in more than one way.

Undervolting and a notebook cooler will take care of most of a notebooks heating problems.

 

What is a good idle temp?

 

25-40 depending on ambient temp. Though I haven't had mine idle any higher than 30c, and usually idles around 25-28c. But room temp is usually 71-74

 

Mine seems to idle 41-44. The fan always run and it isn't exactly silent. No under volt applied however.

 

Confused.
Do you mean to say your notebook temp is way below your room temp (71-74) or is that in Fahrenheit?

 

The lowest idle temp I've got is 46*C, its usually around 50*C.
And as I mentioned during gaming at almost max seetings (Tomb Raider Anniversary) this went up to 86*C and stayed there pretty much.

I have already undervolted to 1.000 V and couldnt go any lower so I guess my other option on the DV5-1015TX is a notebook cooler now. Any recommendations on this?

 

Hi, I just got my DV5 1015TX 2 days back. I've been playing HL2 Episode II, and the max temp goes to 90-91 degree Celsius. Really, should I be playing at those temp levels ?? And also, it drops to 65 C as soon as I press Quit... the gradient is so sharp, I guess it'll affect the H/W pretty adversely.

Please, anyone having faced the situation and came up with any working solution post it here for all of us 1015TX users suffering from the same. I even keep the back elevated around 2 inches from the desk, and then I'm getting those results... don't know what'll happen if I play without any air cushion


And someone please give a detailed guide on how to:
1. Under-volt the GPU (if it is safe, & doesn't affect the performance severely)
2. Set the GPU fan speed at max. I don't know at what speed it runs when, and I couldn't locate fan setting in RivaTuner 2.11. So, any other S/Ws or how-to-do-it guides will be pretty helpful.


Thanks



PS - This is irrelevant to the post, but ran my first 3DMark06 benchmark today. Others can share what their scores are for a comparative analysis. Mine temp went upto 95 during the benchmark.

 

one thing I've noticed is that if you raise the back of your laptop by 1 or 2 inches, you can decrease cpu and gpu temp by a lot. When I tested mine, the difference can be about 10c, my gpu temp when doing 3dmark06 never exceeded 75c and cpu usually stayed below 65c. When browsing web on soft surfaces, the temp stayed at around 50c for cpu, gpu and hdd. This temp is bearable when doing some light work in bed or on lap. Before someone mentioned that left palm rest is really hot, but for me it only gets warm and never became unbearable. BTW, i didnt not undervolt my cpu and testing were done under high performance option, i did do a vista clean installation dont know that has anything to do with it.

 

Why people keep buying nvidia based systems is beyond me. With the not-so-recent nvidia fiasco, I would think that would make people think twice about it.

From what others have said, HP seems to have terrible cooling systems, that coupled with a 15 inch laptop, and nvidia, and I'm not surprised that it's over-heating.
Nobody should have to undervolt their laptop, or use a/c or a laptop cooler to prevent it from going above 90C, that's just rediculous.

 

Hey, anybody knows how to adjust my 9600M GT fan speed ?
Rivatuner doesn't recognise the card properly and the fan tab is missing. Tried with nTune and EVGA Precision, but all has the fan option greyed out...

Please, anyone tried to adjust their mobile gpus please reply asap

 

You can't control the fan speed. The only thing you can do is ensure your drivers are up to date and apply thermal paste. If it keeps overheating, the problem is beyond customer repair.

 

I see you're sporting an apple graphic for your Avatar. Ever noticed how hot the Mac's run, or the GPU's they use?

 

Hey all, this is basically my notebook spec

Genuine Windows Vista Home (32-bit)
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo Processor T9400 (2.53 GHz)
15.4" diagonal WSXGA+ High-Definition HP (1680 x 1050)
4GB DDR2 System Memory
512MB NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT
320GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive
Intel(R) WiFi Link 5100AGN and Bluetooth(TM)
HP Integrated HDTV Hybrid Tuner

When I play games (WoW), the temperature on my system maxes out at 78C is that normal? The laptop definitely feels warm to my palm on the left side and the air being blown out of the laptop sure feels very hot, anybody know what are the normal operating temperatures?

Regards

 

Yeah 78 C is pretty normal while gaming tnsai -- but WOW isn't too demanding graphically either.

To control my temperatures I have undervolted, and I use a cooler (NZXT Cryo), so I usually idle in the mid to low 40's C. But when I downclock my CPU (with Vista and RMClock) and my GPU (RivaTuner) I can get high to mid 30's C (not my GPU though, 40 C is the lowest I have seen it ) -- which is awesome!

As for gaming I saw my GPU hit 85 C once with it usually hovering around 79 C while overclocked during games. I would definately suggest a cooler for gaming, or at least lift up the back of the DV5 a couple of inches. Also, while gaming I try to monitor my temperatures every once in a while to make sure they are stable.

Anyone who wants to underclock their GPU follow LeetPix's overclock guide and then you can set up underclocked profiles easily to switch back and forth. Standard DV5 clocks are (500/1250/400).

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=328025

Hope this helps!

 

hey thanks for the info, i'm going to try some other games and see how it works

 

Ughh, i just played spore and more wow and my temperature was peaking at 80
though i'ves till not propped out up laptop yet and my ambient room temperature should be about 20-25ish

 

Playing at an ambient temp of roughly 23 DegC, Mine maxes at 85, never seen it above this. I have logged the temp using GPU-Z and in game its averaging 80, with the odd peak of 85 before the fan speeds up and drops it back down.

my last DV5's GPU (also a 9600M GT) got up to 106 DegC , 80 is nothing to worry about!

 

really?? cool lol. The thing is that got me worried was that i was cleaning the fans the other day with a can of compressed air. After that i looked on the forums for keeping air vents clean and i read that using comrpessed air might overspin ur fan and damage it.. and thats kinda what got me really worried about my system heat and i've kinda felt it got hotter since that incident lol.. my friends keep telling me its my imagination