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    TouchSmart 15t-j100 Quad Edition vs Select

    Discussion in 'HP' started by bkhahn, Jan 2, 2014.

  1. bkhahn

    bkhahn Newbie

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    I'm debating between ordering either the TouchSmart 15t-j100 Quad or Select in the following configurations and have a few questions. I don't do much gaming (a little CS:Source & COD 4 Modern Warfare) and currently use a Late 2008 Macbook Pro with the 9600M GT.

    Quad
    i7-4700MQ
    740M w/2048MB

    Select
    i7-4702MQ
    750M w/4096MB

    The rest of the config will be identical between the two (16GB ram, 1TB hybrid drive, 1920x1080 screen).

    1) Should I go for the faster CPU (4700 vs 4702) on the Quad or the faster GPU (750 vs 740) on the Select?

    2) Coming from the 9600M on my current laptop - is upgrading from the Intel 4600 to the 740/750 even worth it for my workloads since my games of choice are older?

    3) Is there a significant battery life decrease going from the 4600 to the 740/750? If so how much should I expect?
     
  2. prashant_18

    prashant_18 Newbie

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    First of all i7 4700MQ and 4702 MQ will be available in lenovo y510p.
    and if you are coming from mac book and not a hardcore user than you should probably looking for ULV processor.As you will notice drastically better battery life and will fulfill almost every requirement.
    As as far as Hp is concerned dude be aware from this brand. I have horrible experience of Hp about laptop heating and hard disk noise in Hp envy /pavilion series.(still thay give 3 years warranty so its your choice)and if you are not a full time gamer then I would recommend you 4600 (integrated gpu) because it will fulfill your basic needs.(believe me I played assassin's creed 3 in 4400 and in medium settings I can easily play without lag)still 740m will be best at this choice. and yes both processor will not make any difference so you can choose anyone without hesitation.

    and ya don't expect more than 4 hour battery life because MQ processors(practically). So good luck with your choice.

    question for you. which is your country.?
     
  3. vas

    vas Notebook Consultant

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    I would definitely recommend you i7 4700QM (or even 4900MQ - I own this one)
    This beast very fast for development purposes.

    47W CPU will give you more power for CPU bound tasks over 37W (4702MQ)

    Select edition sacrifice 27% of power (10 extra watts comparing to 37 watts in 4702MQ) from CPU for graphics performance.

    If your choice is development/cpu bound tasks - then consider to buy "quad edition"
    If your choice is gaming - then consider to buy "select edition"

    FYI: there about 5-25% difference in GPU performance between GeForce 740M and 750M.
    740M based on more powerful architecture GK208 and higher clocked, but halved some parameters like bus width.
    750M based on GK107, slightly less clocked, less featured but have twice bigger memory bus which result higher performance in games, but less performance in computations.
     
  4. T2050

    T2050 Notebook Deity

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    No way, grab the 37w version, this CPU even has a price premium to have Lowe power draw. The only reason you can get a 750M in the first place is to take it with the 37W processor, as this heavier hitting GPU will balance out power draw when both are operating. The 750M is one fast GPU even with DDR3, and hold a permanent boost clock way over 1GHz.
    The only reason outside to decide between the two if you don't care about specs to much, is if you want a touchscreen or not. Touchsmart both HD and FHD both have trebble panels, and the select will be much the same, at least with the select you have a chance of physically changing out the panel as the touchsmart is a sealed unit.
    Except for the newer Haswell hardware, most of the laptop compared to last years model is a backwards step, you should adviod buying it. I sold mine and are keeping my 2012 model with awesome FHD panel.
     
  5. vas

    vas Notebook Consultant

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    You are too intransigent!! As you can see from topicstarter post - he is not a pro gamer, just eventually play some games ...
    Assuming he might prefer more CPU power in everyday tasks over 5-25% decreased GPU performance - 47w will be smarter choice.
     
  6. T2050

    T2050 Notebook Deity

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    47W is not sustainable and will likely throttle quickly under load. HP cooling is not the greatest, a 37W processor make more sense as less heat, better for battery also.
     
  7. vas

    vas Notebook Consultant

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    I see your point and I would agree with you if I haven't envy 15t i7 4900MQ. Everyday I running tough tasks e.g. Hyper-V, SQL server, Visual Studio e.t.c. Even so - I never seen CPU usage over 70% (except benchmarking). During these tasks CPU temp never cause throttle - CPU just bounces between 3.7-4.0 GHz behaving like powerfull desktop system. (CPU is overclocked, and even this doesn't cause overheat)

    Even during benchmarking it gives pretty decent result IMHO: XTU 848 marks (frequency bounces between 3.3-3.6 GHz. Once it hit 90 Celsius system feel too loud)
    Super PI 1M: 9.594s

    So I would conclude - that this is just your thoughts about throttle instead of real experience.
    Noone real world application cause your CPU to throttle.
    Its your choice what you would like to get: 5-25% more graphics performance or 10-15% CPU performance.