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    Undervolting and RMclock

    Discussion in 'HP' started by Lotekx, Dec 12, 2005.

  1. Lotekx

    Lotekx Newbie

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    Hi, i want to undervolt my L2000, but there are no FID or VID menus to select in the main window of rmclock. I reinstalled the amd drivers, and nothing changed. Any help?
     
  2. chinna_n

    chinna_n Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Go to Management Tab,
    check Use P-State Transitions,
    Press Add, in the popup windows, select FID 4x, Requested Voltage VID 0.975, say ok.
    Press Add again, this time select FID 8x, Requested Voltage VID 1.250, say ok.

    In the same tab, under Power/Performance Section,
    Select
    AC profile --Automatic Management,
    AC mode-- Power Saving Level 4
    Battery Profile- Minimal ( if you are gaming then select Auto)
    Batter Mode -- Power Saving Level 4.

    In the general Tab select Run minimized in the tray, Restore defaults on exit, and if everything is stable select Run Automatically on startup.

    These are typical startup setting, you may be able go much lower(voltage). But if you see if even at this voltages if it freezes, hangs etc, then bump voltage to 1.0V( default) at 4X and 1.30V at 8X.
     
  3. billcsho

    billcsho Notebook Deity

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    I am using Notebook Hardware Control instead. It will perform a loaded test for each clock setting to test for stability.
     
  4. chinna_n

    chinna_n Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    What is Notebook Hardware control? is this some other software? Works on Turions too? Any links?
     
  5. Lotekx

    Lotekx Newbie

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    when selecting add in P-state transitions, should I check the auto adjust intermediate p-state VIDs box?
     
  6. miner

    miner Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    It was formerly called as Centrino Hardware Control. I think they are porting it out to work with the Turions as well. But it is still in beta and so wont work with all systems. Dont know whether if it works with the Turion and the V2000z.

    Select that only if you want RM Clock to automatically adjust the intermediate multiplier and voltages. but it would be better to select your own custom multipliers and voltage.
     
  7. vassil_98

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    Selecting one's own values for the intermediate p-states is a lenghty and tedious work to do. Besides, the benefit from it is not certain if any because I, for example, use my L2000 predominantly on 4x since I'm on Minimal all the time. If I need more power I switch to Auto and the laptop accelerates whenever it needs to. Yet, it rarely goes to the intermediate steps; if it does it stays there for seconds. To my mind their real role is to underclock your processor, i. e. set the maximum at 6x when the actual capability of the processor is 9x, for example. Then one may really benefit from setting a different value from the automatic one. I was thinking of doing it but every now and then I need the max power of the ML-34 so I still haven't done it.
     
  8. chinna_n

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    Yes, that is true. It may not be used much, but really handy when playing demanding video clips like WMV HD clips or probably some HD Divx clips as these does not need full speed, but need more power than 800Mhz.

    With manual tweaking we can go lower than what auto can do in intermediate steps. Atleast that is the case in my laptop. L2000 UnderVolting thread has all that info.
     
  9. billcsho

    billcsho Notebook Deity

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    The Notebook Hardware Control is available at here.
    They are porting it to support other Intel CPU but not AMD yet. It is at version 1.9b right now. I like it more than RMClock since it display the remaining battery in both % and time. My Windows only shows %. It also has an option to under/over clock ATI GPU which is great for my DV4000 with ATI x700. It also monitors the temperature and SMART status of HD as well as CPU/system temperature with warning and auto shut down settings.
     
  10. alexjl

    alexjl Notebook Consultant

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    Where is that? You mean right click "My Computer" manager? Or does AMD have their own application?

    BTW I did the HP AMD driver update if that means anything.

    LMK!!
     
  11. chinna_n

    chinna_n Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    We are talking about RMClock Undervolting application. You can google it. Currently this is one of the best app for undervolting Turions.
     
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    alexjl Notebook Consultant

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    THANKS!

    I have a Compaq Presario V2404US. 1.6Ghz Turion, Xpress 200M.

    Any recomondations on tweaking the V2000?

    tnx
     
  14. chinna_n

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    Check the L-2000, V2000z undervolting threads, you will find basic steps. Undervolting helps a lot to reduce heat/Fan recycling and to some extents to battery life.

    Here are some basic steps on how to use RMClock for ML-30

    Go to Management Tab,
    check Use P-State Transitions,
    Press Add, in the popup windows, select FID 4x, Requested Voltage VID 0.975, say ok.
    Press Add again, this time select FID 8x, Requested Voltage VID 1.250, say ok.

    In the same tab, under Power/Performance Section,
    Select
    AC profile --Automatic Management,
    AC mode-- Power Saving Level 4
    Battery Profile- Minimal ( if you are gaming then select Auto)
    Batter Mode -- Power Saving Level 4.

    In the general Tab select Run minimized in the tray, Restore defaults on exit, and if everything is stable select Run Automatically on startup.

    These are typical startup setting, you may be able go much lower(voltage). But if you see if even at this voltages if it freezes, hangs etc, then bump voltage to 1.0V( default) at 4X and 1.30V at 8X.
     
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  16. chinna_n

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    In the current version of RMClock (ver 1.8) the CPU step up and down values are hardcoded( %CPU usage before it goes to next step up or down). Total currently it has 8 sets when to go to next step of CPU speed.

    For Examples: PowerSaving Level 4, CPU goes to next step up at around 95% of usage and steps down when usage level is around 47%,

    where as at Performance Level 4, CPU goes to next step up at around 50%( do not remember extact values) and steps down when usage level drops to around 25%.

    I think Performance Level 4 is point less, Because even if your system is using only 26% it does not step down to lower speed.

    Anyways, I already reported these things to RMClock author and he promised to change it in next release.
     
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    i followed the instructions and everything works great in battery mode with no peripherals connected. when in AC mode, i connected all the USB ports to those (self powered devices), i don't know if they are sucking too much power but my computer would occassionally freeze to a blank (or funny coloured screen). i can also gave it a higher power at a low frequency to make it stable. but i want to know if that is the problem or is it "Enable northbridge low power" option that's giving me the problem. as per Chinna's posting, he didn't not have that option enabled. here are the facts of my comp and software

    Compaq v2000z 2.0ghz with 512 corsair DDR400
    RMclock: 4x @ 0.975 10x @1.4 (not the max as the max is 1.5v)

    thanks
     
  18. chinna_n

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    Please do not check any thing else(unless you really know what you are doing) other than I mentioned.

    Looks like you have ML-37, ML-37 can easily do 10x at 1.30v (mine 1.225v) amd 4x at 0.95.

    And also create 6x, 8x and 9 x and let RM Clock choose auto voltages for those steppings.

    I think you can safely do 4x at 0.975 and 10x at 1.30v

    DO not check any other option( There is no power saving with any of those options you see).
     
  19. vassil_98

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    buggyug0, you risk a lot messing around in the Advanced tab.. :)
    But in case you do know what these settings can improve, please tell us. I must confess I don't understand them
     
  20. chinna_n

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    Actually, I have been RMClock forums, and author answered many questions, it is suggested for Turion platform we do not need to change anything else.