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    Upgrading zv5000z CPU: IT'S EASY!

    Discussion in 'HP' started by brianstretch, Nov 24, 2004.

  1. brianstretch

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    I finally swapped CPUs in my zv5000z today, from a C0 stepping DTR 3200+ to a CG stepping Mobile 3200+ (formerly used in my desktop PC, because I'd been too chicken to try the notebook CPU swap before). Two big insights:

    1) IT'S EASY! It's even easier than swapping CPUs in a desktop.
    2) The fans shut off! BOTH OF THEM!

    Full review here.
     
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by brianstretch

     
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    nice work, those are good pictures too.

    Compaq R3000T (CTO)
    P4 Desktop 3.0GHz w/HT
    1 X 512MB RAM
    Radeon 9600 128MB
    60GB 5,400 RPM HD
    AquaMark3: 24,257, 3DMark03: 3,115
     
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    Thanks DaGreek!

    alekkh: Undervolting doesn't decrease performance, it just runs the CPU at a lower voltage than standard at any given speed. A DTR Athlon 64 CPU normally does full speed at 1.5V, whereas you can usually get away with 1.3V, cutting maximum power consumption by well over a third. Mobile Athlon 64's normally do full speed at 1.4V (1.2V with undervolting), and Low-Voltage class chips use 1.2V. So I'm getting Low-Voltage class power consumption (and better!) with no performance compromises.

    Note that eMachines/Gateway uses Mobile-class CPUs in their Athlon 64 notebooks, or did last I checked. HP really ought to. And I still haven't figured out why AMD is so excessively conservative with their default voltage settings. What could I have missed?
     
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by brianstretch

     
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    brianstretch, I tried the clock gen for NForce3. It always shows my CPU speed as 800MHz on its monitor. Mobile meter however shows the correct speed (0.8-2.4 GHz) depending on load.

    When I set power managment to "always on", CPU jumps to 2.4GHz but as soon as I apply clock gen, goes to 800MHz and stays there regardless of the voltage I set (0.8 or 1.4 Volts).

    What am I doing wrong? :)

    One more question:
    Can I set the upper limit for voltage for the powerNOW!. Say, make CPU jump from 0.8V to 1.3V rather than from 0.95V to 1.55V?

     
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    Ignore the Clocks section in Clockgen unless you intend to overclock. Its readouts don't automatically update, you have to hit the Get Values button. Just use the K8 FID/VID section. Set the multiplier you want, the voltage you want, and Apply each in the correct order (if you forgot to raise the voltage high enough for a higher multiplier your machine will lock).

    I don't know of any way to adjust PowerNOW! like that. I wish I did (anyone?).
     
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    Trying to install clockgen V CG-NVNF3.zip, but I try to install the progrm I have an error.
    Do I have to copy the files to a folder then install them?
    What are your result with R3000?
     
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    These days I use CrystalCPUID instead. Other people favor RMClock.

    There's nothing to install with ClockGen. Just unzip it and run the executable.

    Another nice thing about undervolting a Mobile-class CPU: since the fan hardly runs, very little dust accumulates in the heatsink fins. I discovered this during my failed attempt to swap in a Turion (HP needs to update the BIOS to recognize E-series cores, including the Mobile 3700+ and 4000+) a few months ago.