Vega GL now up on Spectre x360

https://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/hp-s...to~2KD76AV~HP_Spectre_x360_-_15t_Touch_Laptop

If you go to the customization options, it is now configurable with the vega gl graphics

 

And it is $669 cheaper than the same configuration on the new Dell XPS 15" 2 in 1 that is now up on Dell's site.

HP Spectre x360 - 15t Touch Laptop

512 GB PCIe® NVMe™ M.2 SSD
Windows 10 Pro 64
6-cell, 84 Wh Lithium-ion Battery
Intel® Core™ i7-8705G (3.1 GHz, up to 4.1 GHz, 8MB cache, 4 cores) + Radeon™ RX Vega M Graphics (4GB dedicated memory)
Full-size island-style backlit keyboard with integrated numeric keypad (Dark Ash Silver)
15.6" diagonal 4K IPS micro-edge BrightView WLED-backlit touch screen with Corning® Gorilla® Glass (3840 x 2160)
16 GB DDR4-2400 SDRAM (2x8GB)
Intel® 802.11b/g/n/ac (2x2) Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® 4.2 Combo
HP Pen (dark ash silver)

I am strongly considering ordering one right now. I just wish there was a review up.

 

Screw it. I have 30 days to return it according to HP if I don't like it for some reason. I'm not waiting for a review. I ordered before the $50 off promo runs out tomorrow. Can't wait to try out the Vega.

•HP Pen (dark ash silver)
•No DVD or CD Drive
•6-cell, 84 Wh Lithium-ion Battery
•Intel® Core™ i7-8705G (3.1 GHz, up to 4.1 GHz, 8MB cache, 4 cores) + Radeon™ RX Vega M Graphics (4GB dedicated memory)
•HP TrueVision FHD IR Camera with Dual array digital microphone (dark ash silver)(for i7-8705G)
•15.6" diagonal 4K IPS micro-edge BrightView WLED-backlit touch screen with Corning® Gorilla® Glass (3840 x 2160)
•16 GB DDR4-2400 SDRAM (2x8GB)
•512 GB PCIe® NVMe™ M.2 SSD
•Windows 10 Pro 64
•Full-size island-style backlit keyboard with integrated numeric keypad (Dark Ash Silver)
•Intel® 802.11b/g/n/ac (2x2) Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® 4.2 Combo
•Security Software Trial
•Office Software Trial

Subtotal: $1,739.99
Shipping & handling: Free
Tax: $117.45
Total: $1,857.44

 

Memory looks modular according to the service manual. It may be using something like low-profile single-sided dimms (they have done that in a few elitebook's in the past), so standard 16gb dimms may not work.

Also, I am confused as to which model gets dual thunderbolt 3 ports (instead of 1x usb-c + 1x thunderbolt 3).

I wonder what kind of TDP HP has set on the processor if they are using a 150W power supply instead of the 90W that is used on the 8550u + MX150 model.

 

The Vega model has the two Thunderbolt 3.

For models with Intel® Core™ i7-8705G processor:; 2 Thunderbolt™ 3 (Data Transfer up to 40 Gb/s, Power Delivery, DP1.2, HP Sleep and Charge); 1 USB 3.1 Gen 1 (HP Sleep and Charge); 1 HDMI v2.0; 1 headphone/microphone combo

Are there flash drives that work with thunderbolt 3? I have zero experience with those ports.

And I just got Estimated delivery date: Apr 20. That seems like forever.

 

It'll be very interesting to see the battery life on it compared to the xps 15 2-in-1. Also I'm guessing it's the full 65w TDP that Vega GL has, compared to the throttled version of the XPS, so a performance comparison will be interesting too.

 

I think Dell have made a massive pricing error with their new xps 15" 8705g. which is £600.00 !!!!!! more expensive than the new HP Spectre x360 8705g. The dell doesnt have a finger print sensor, or volume rocker on the side, it doesnt have a numpad, we will have to wait several more months to get the stylus with tilt function, you have to pay extra £50 for a sleeve for the Dellm but ts free with with HP and the Dell looks plain boring and ugly. I cannot wait to get my HP spectre which i pre-ordered, due for delivery on the 10/04/18

 

Wow, I thought I had a long wait.

 

When is yours due for delivery

 

Ship on April 12 and delivery on April 20. I ordered on March 30.

 

XPS 9575
Pros
+Smaller footprint/bezels
+Centered keyboard and track pad
+Wacom digitizer/100% aRGB
+Potentially better thermal performance

Cons:
-"Dell Tax" of several hundred pounds over the HP
-Smaller battery/Poor battery life (4K)
-No included pen / legacy ports / webcam location (at the bottom so it looks up your nose)
-No numpad
-No finger print sensor (optional)
-No Free included sleeve
-No Volume rocker
-Looks horrible and boring
- MASSIVE CON, No HDMI out, it will require a docking station. dual 4k unconfirmed.

HP Spectre x360 2018
Pros
+Significantly cheaper
+Web cam well placed at the top of the screen
+More user-upgradeability, (able to upgrade SSD, replace battery, although this will require unscrewing the bottom cover,)
+Included pen/legacy ports
+Bigger battery
+Looks sexy
+Num pad, larger track pad
+ HDMI out, Dual 4k confirmed

Cons
-Potentially worse thermals/slightly worse display and digitizer


And the winner is?

 

Spectre for me. In addition to what you mentioned:

• Standard size SD slot, not micro
• Standard A-size USB and USB C, not just C
• Standard HDMI 2.0 jack and Thunderbolt vs just Thunderbolt.
  
• Intel Wireless

Seems like a no-brainer.

 

I just realized you are probably doing the date European style. You will get yours 10 days before mine. Let us know how it is!

 

I will do mate, i ordered mine on the 27/03/18 in the UK and delivery is showing up on my order status as being due on the 10/04/18. My mate at work has the HP spectre x360 2017 version and i fell in love with it when i first saw it in dec 2017, i was going to buy one then but after seeing the specs of the 2018 version at the CES on the 06/01/18 i decided to wait. It has been painful to wait this long, i considered getting the Surface book 2, regardless of the higher price tag, every spec on the new HP spectre 360 is better, ie. RAM, SSD, OK the 6gb 1060 is better on the surface book, but at least i have the option of thunder bolt with the new spectre. plus the spectre has dual 4k option. which probably my biggest selling point and i have always prefered a num pad. I have been researching bench marks of the latest laptops for the past 4 months and new spectre makes the most sense IMO. Yes, some of the top end gaming laptps with the 7th gen HK CPUs and 1080GPUs will be better, but most of them have 1080p res, not 4k and do not have a touch screen with stylus support, a lot of them also have the old style Hard drives plus a SSD which again is not what i am looking for.
I will be using my new spectre mostly for photoshop and video editing

 

I was looking at 2in1's for months last year. I was leaning toward the Yoga 720 with the 1050. I really liked the x360 but I wanted a little more power for gaming. Then HP, Dell and Lenovo announced their new ones. The Lenovo is still going to have the 1050 so I ruled that one out. The Dell is almost $700 more than the same spec x360 and they didn't want to price match. So HP it is. I really wanted one with the numpad anyway. I'm retired and work at home on the internet so I'll be using it for that, some photoshop, video editing, gaming and watching movies and TV shows. I have a nice 17" MSI with a 1070 but my back is not in great shape. After 5 or 6 hours sitting up at the MSI I need to sit in the recliner or bed. The MSI is not so great for lap computing.

 

I just saw the new HP spectre x360 with i7 8705G and Vega graphics and I'm very tempted to get one!

My only concern is the display. I know the Dell XPS 2-in-1 4k display will probably be 100% AdobeRGB like all the other XPS models (but actually I think you can't select the 4k option yet).
Do you think the 4k display on the Spectre x360 is anywhere near that quality?

Also, does it have a much bigger footprint? I couln't find anything about it yet.

This is the config I'm looking for

 

Are there any laptop models out there with the GH graphics, like on the 8809 / 8709 CPU's?
https://ark.intel.com/products/codename/136847/Kaby-Lake-G

And, each of these Kaby Lake G with Vega Graphics also list having the standard Intel 630 iGPU... so the Vega GPU is a dGPU, and they use Optimus for iGPU battery saving?

Comparison of the 8809 and 8705:
https://ark.intel.com/compare/130409,130411

The main difference besides the GPU bandwidth is the power rating, 100w for the 8809 and 65w for the 8705, I haven't seen any comparison benchmarks yet.

Please post your benchmark results when you get your new laptop!!

 

I haven't seen any 8809/8709 laptops yet, just NUC's. The 8809 has firestrike scores between a 1060 and 1060max q. Not too bad at all. Sadly I think the 100w will keep it out of the laptop market, at least in any of the smaller laptops.

And yeah they still use the 630 for power saving and the Vega for performance.

From the limited reviews I've seen the 8705 scores around the level of a 1050ti in firestrike.

 

I haven't seen a review for the HP Vega yet. I've seen a lot of reviews and comparisons with the last models. Dell always seems to have a better display but the HP is still very good. To save hundreds of dollars I will go with very good.

The Dell is very slightly smaller and lighter at 13.9 x 9.2 x 0.6 and 4.4 pounds. The HP is 14.13 x 9.84 x 0.76 and 4.59 pounds.

The HP is only 1" bigger than my Dell Inspiron 13" 2 in 1 and weighs about the same (according to my scale).

 

I think the 4k display on the spectre will be VERY close to the Dell XPS, i personally use an external monitor for photo editing because its bigger and better than any laptop screen. the nice option with the spectre is it has a HDMI out and confirmed dual 4K, i know the Dell will not have an HDMI out and dual 4k is unconfirmed, take the new surface book 2 for example cannot even support dual 4K

 

Here is a comparison of XPS vs x360 4K panels.

The pannels will be the same for the new Vega systems. The Dell has significantly better Adobe RGB and a good amount better %sRGB... But the HP has significantly better black levels and contrast. So it depends on what you value. Both screens have Approx 1000Hz PWM (which should not be noticed even by sensitive users according to Notebook check; the higher number the better)



https://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-XPS-15-9560-i7-7700HQ-UHD-Laptop-Review.200648.0.html

 

Also ordered on 27/03/18 HP Spectre x360 15-ch004na @ £1899 with 3 year care package, again my delivery for 10/04 would not be surprised if this extends though, strange how no reviews around yet other than the January CES unveiling. Taking a gamble pre-ordering with no official reviews yet, seemed to be the best top end 15" around though. Dell XPS and Surface Pro 2 too expensive and don't like the Aspect Ratio of SB2 and expensive accessories. Have had a 13" HP Spectre since 2014, still going strong, whereas my previous 2 Dell XPS notebooks suffered terribly with lack of cooling and overheating. Looking forward to first review will keep you all posted.

 

Yeah I thought they may send some out early to review sites. A little worrying but with the 30 day return policy not that worrying.

 

2018 Dell XPS 15 2 in 1 - Hands On Review
Intel Kaby Lake G Vega M GPU
Published on Apr 5, 2018
The Dell XPS 15 2 in 1 is far from a conventional laptop, but it’s an experiment that (mostly) goes right. With an advanced new keyboard and some surprisingly good gaming performance, the XPS 15 2 in 1 is a vision of the future.

 

I absolutely agree with your comments. It is a bit of a gamble but i have read countless reviews and youtube videos and bench mark comparisons between each component the new spectre has to offer and ever result points in the right direction, showing the hp spectre out performs but has more options the surface book 2 and the new dell XPS, the only caveat is the nvidia 1060 which the surface pro 2 has and the slightly better screen on the dell. but i can live with that, easy just to plug in a 4k monitor to an hdmi port which is something the other 2 rivals cannot offer

 

Also found this in depth review https://hothardware.com/reviews/dell-xps-15-2-in-1-review?page=1

Gives a full set of benchmarks and gaming tests for the Vega M which I guess will be pretty similar to the HP scores.

 

Yep. Will be interesting to see a bench Mark of the new hp spectre and dell xps side by side

 

HP will be releasing a more powerfull and better lookiing option at the same size. With 6core/12Thread CPU and Nvidia P1000 (about GTX 1060 level)




http://www8.hp.com/us/en/workstations/zbook-x360/index.html

 

That is impressive. I wonder when it will be released.
Cannot keep up with it lol

 

That sounds great .. and very expensive.

 

Impressive specs but as soon as Quadro, Workstation and 6 core Xeon are mentioned you know its going to be £1000s more than the Spectre X360, won't be cancelling my current order yet

PS. not to mention up to 4TB SSD!

 

Indeed; But with the inevitable "25% off workstations" coupon... it is very enticing. Easy enough to skip Xenon options for the cheaper H series counterparts

 

I have just received an update from HP UK that my new HP spectre x360 8705g will now be delivered on the 12/04/18, previously they had confirmed it would be delivered on the 10/04/18, this is after i spoke to HP customer sales who said they received stock on the 06/04/18 and will start dispatching goods on the 09/04/18. ggggrrrrrr

 

Interesting, not seen that discount before, would make it more palatable I guess.

 

Snap, just logged in and mine also says the delivery on the 12th.

 

Do your orders still say "processing"? My money went through the bank last week, so I'm assuming it will say processing until it ships?

 

My order still says "awaiting stock". I placed the order on the 27/03/18 and the money left my account straight away. So i have been waiting over 10 days now (5 working days). Delivery is due on the 12/04/18

 

Mine has had a ship date of the 12th since I ordered. Hopefully that won't change.

 

What will you do when you receive your new HP laptop? install a clean version of windows 10 without all of the bloat ware (TBH, i am not sure what is included) or leave it as is and just remove the bloat ware you do want?

 

I haven't decided yet which I will do. I'm going to take a few days testing and see how everything works first and make sure I want to keep it.

 

Mine still says waiting Stock, delivery on the 12th and no money has been taken yet (Ordered 27th), as for rebuilding, pretty easy to uninstall bloatware nowadays and get rid of free trials, happy with MS Defender. I will probably upgrade to Win 10 Pro (have a spare key) so I can activate bitlocker (Microsoft's Encryption) at least it will be useless to anyone who steals it (hopefully unlikely)

 

I emailed sales today asking about mine still showing processing and about my money being taken out last week. They said, "Order cost are charged upon order acceptance to ensure the build of your unit." I'm not sure why yours hasn't been charged yet.

They said mine has an estimated build date of the 12th. I hope that means the shipping date since that's what it's shown since I ordered it.

 

Had a look at Order this morning and no estimated delivery date, when I clicked on 'Not received item yet' it came back with estimated delivery of 11th, so hopefully Wednesday, still no money left account

 

I have just received an order update from hp saying that my order has been shipped and I can expect delivery within 48hrs

 

Yep just received text from HP and email from DPD saying delivery for the 10th so tomorrow it is then

 

Just ordered mine tonight. Added the Omen Accelerator EGPU and will fill with 1070. I'll be timing the purchase of a Gigabyte Aorus 1080 Gamer Box to try to get them all to arrive at the same time. So I'll have 30 days to try to get the Vega working with an EGPU.

Anyone else trying to get an egpu working with theirs? I'd love to hear how it's going and tips if others are trying.

Cheers
-michael

 

Mine has just been delivered

 

Congrats! Let us know what you think. My main concerns are heat, fan noise and light bleed.

 

I haven't received an email but my status shows it shipped today from CHONGQING CN. Original ship date was the 12th.

No delivery date yet but the excitement builds.

Well FedEx site says, "Tue 4/17/2018 by 8:00 pm". I was hoping sooner, but at least it's on the way.

 

OK first impressions favorable, did not get much time to use it yesterday, Screen great quality, managed to stream a 40GB 2160p movie via Wi-Fi from my NAS, very smooth and no stutters and my router is on the floor below, so Wi-Fi excellent. Need to adjust to default screen setup I believe as the Black bars above and below movie where more dark greyish. Speed wise the included M2 SSD (1TB) appears to be lightning fast (I have M2 SSD on Desktop and previous HP Spectre). Nice touch it Auto detects Tablet/Desktop Mode. Only slight negative it is a bit on the heavy side, but I can live with this.

Hopefully post some benchmarks later, not used pen or or played a game on it yet.