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    Very quick answer: 32 and 64 bit

    Discussion in 'HP' started by yehrulz, Nov 3, 2008.

  1. yehrulz

    yehrulz Notebook Consultant

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    Bascially, the laptop in my sig just died.

    i'm looking at the the dv5 and the dv4, which are both 64-bit. i've seen the guides on here and all, but does that mean i can install a 32-bit OS?

    This is the processor:
    Microprocessor 2.10 GHz AMD Turion X2 RM-72 Dual-Core Mobile Processor
    Microprocessor Cache 1 MB L2 Cache

    OR

    Microprocessor 2.00 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T5800
    Microprocessor Cache 3 MB L2 Cache

    Along with:
    Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit with Service Pack 1
    4 gb ram

    If i don't like 64-bit, can i use my vista 32-bit disc and clean install it? What about drivers?

    Most importantly, what is this compatibilty issue i keep hearing about? Will office 2007 work on 64-bit (i sorta skimmed the guide, sry. I need a fast answer, i don't have time :()

    So, in general, is it the OS that is 64 bit, or the computer. I mean, if i go back to 32 bit, i know the ram is wasted, but i'm just saying. This is the OS that makes the difference, right?

    AFF, please help!
     
  2. flipfire

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    Both CPU's are 64bit capable. Of course you can install Vista 32 as long as you have the install disc.

    You can download the drivers from the HP driver page or just backup your SWSetup folder.

    The compatibility issues are very small, most everyday programs will work.

    Yes Office '03/07 will work on 64bit fine.

    The CPU needs to be 64bit capable so you can use a 64bit OS.
     
  3. NAS Ghost

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    The OS is whats 64-bit though though as Flipfire stated the hardware needs to support it as well.
     
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    The hardware does support 64bit.
     
  5. yehrulz

    yehrulz Notebook Consultant

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    well, i believe it should support 64 bit, those 2 proccesors right?

    Finally,
    what's the difference between:
    ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics RS780M
    &
    Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD
     
  6. NAS Ghost

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    Yes both do support x64

    HD 3200 > X4500, though the margin isnt devastating and when compared to all current mobile graphics solutions, both are terrible.
     
  7. yehrulz

    yehrulz Notebook Consultant

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    well, i'm doing very light gaming on there. i don't think much of a big difference.

    The main thing i asked about the 64 bit 32 bit is because i want to clean install, but i only have a 32 bit disc. oh well, i'll think of something.

    thank you all for your help!

    btw, do you think i should get the dv4 or the dv5. i'm using it for school, browsing, light gaming, school, some school, virtual machines, more school.and school
     
  8. Tenspeed

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    my last 64bit computer had 32bit windows xp on it. so ,, yes.
     
  9. XNachoX

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    Light gaming as in what? The dv4 only offers a 9200 GS which adds $150 to the price. The dv5 offers up to a 9600m gt which is a solid mid-range card. I think you would struggle to play anything more than half-life 1 at a decent framerate on the DV4, and forget World of Warcraft or anything like that.

    For only 1 inch smaller the dv4 gives up a lot to the dv5
     
  10. MrJacky

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    You have to view the specifications offered where he lives.
     
  11. yehrulz

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    the game i'm probably only playing is nba 2k8, and assaultcube (fps based off of cube engine). Those ran fine on my dv2416us, which had an nvidia integrated shared *8400*(i think, its dead and i can't check).

    Portabiliby is an advantage too. i carry this to school sometimes, and around the house.. BTW, is the build quality on the dv4 quite sturdy?

    sorry for all the questions, but i fuc*ed up my dv2000 after 1 year, and i have to be sure this lasts 3 more years :( is the dv4 stronger than my old dv2000?
     
  12. yehrulz

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    additionally to my quesiton above, will this work with a xb3000 expansion base?
     
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    Yes, since it uses the same expansion port 3
     
  14. yehrulz

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    oh thank god, because i noticed that the ac adapter plug is different...well, that's why my dv2000 adapter comes in handy :)

    what about the graphics thing 3 posts above? graphics plus build quality. espcailly build quality.

    additionaly, notice the new type of hinge display vs the one on the dv2000. how is this compared
     
  15. yehrulz

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    well, bad news.

    Connecting the xb3000 to my dv4 using the old dv2000 adapter connect to the xb3000 does not work for some reason. it just screen flickers bright and dull, like its charging, and then its not anymore. ****. however, what i do is that i plug in the expansion port 3, and the dv4 power adapter on the other side. so, 2 inputs. will that overload the system?
     
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    How many watts is on the dv2000 adapter?

    Dont plug both adapters in, it might explode. You can only keep 1 plugged in.
     
  17. yehrulz

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    both have the exact same wattage. yet using just the xb3000 plug, it won't wont' supply full charge.

    i can't also plug in both at the same time?
     
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    Does it work fine if you plug the AC adapter to the Dv4 while its hooked to the expansion base?

    I dont suggest you plug in both sides just to be safe..

    So is it 90 or 65watts?
     
  19. yehrulz

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    well, i don't think it will work because the xb3000 base itself needs power to run, right?

    both say 65 watts. Maybe a defective one?

    i mean, it supplies charge on and off everyone second. i could return it and try a new one. but any solutions?
     
  20. yehrulz

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    defective laptop*

    i'll be able to test it when i get home, gut i don't think it will work. is there any logical problem why it currently won't work?
     
  21. yehrulz

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    got home and tried it. doesn't work.

    is it probably just a defective model?
     
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    dv4's use a 65watt? Do you have a dedicated or integrated gpu?

    You should have a 90watt. My dv2500 came with a 90watt.

    Try using a 90watt dv2000 adapter..
     
  23. yehrulz

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    dv4 uses 65 watt, integrated.

    i don't have a 90 watt adapter. is this probably just a defective model, because i can return it any time.
     
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    Not defective, I guess they just removed the compatibility on the xb3000 to make way for the xb4
     
  25. yehrulz

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    ok, well one thing for sure,plugging 2 in will overload the system and go...boom? i tried it, but in the long run, i'm guessing it won't work?
     
  26. yehrulz

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    well, since it doesn't provide enough power through the expansion port, i have to plug it in via ac adapter. does that raelly overload, since a 90 watt adapter will probably do the same thing. i mean, 65 + w/e the expansion port has will overload it?

    Note: I have 13 days to put this to hard core use before i return it. i'm going to try it like this and benchmark the crap out of this. i need some cpu intensive programs that run for hours and hours.
     
  27. yehrulz

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    *bump*

    "well, since it doesn't provide enough power through the expansion port, i have to plug it in via ac adapter. does that raelly overload, since a 90 watt adapter will probably do the same thing. i mean, 65 + w/e the expansion port has will overload it?

    Note: I have 13 days to put this to hard core use before i return it. i'm going to try it like this and benchmark the crap out of this. i need some cpu intensive programs that run for hours and hours."

    well, now its down to 12 days :p
     
  28. GBass

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    Are you serious about WoW not running on the dv4? What if you set the game to low settings? Will it be able to handle it?
     
  29. yehrulz

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    aff i'm not really caring about the gaming part. works fine for me.

    more like:

    "well, since it doesn't provide enough power through the expansion port, i have to plug it in via ac adapter. does that raelly overload, since a 90 watt adapter will probably do the same thing. i mean, 65 + w/e the expansion port has will overload it?

    Note: I have 13 days to put this to hard core use before i return it. i'm going to try it like this and benchmark the crap out of this. i need some cpu intensive programs that run for hours and hours."