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    Vista load time

    Discussion in 'HP' started by Anticool, Oct 21, 2008.

  1. Anticool

    Anticool Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello all..

    I own an HP DV4T with the following specs:

    # Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium with Service Pack 1 (32-bit)
    # Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo Processor T9400 (2.53 GHz)
    # 3GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    # 256MB NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS
    # 250GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive with HP

    I have noy uninstalled any of the programs that come with the PC. This means that I am running Norton. I have installed Spybot and Firefox.

    When I turn it on it takes 90 seconds to show me the login screen. Is this too long?

    I should say that a program called "Viewpont manager" is unavailable in the Control Panel.
     
  2. gerryf19

    gerryf19 I am the walrus

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    90 seconds is a little long.

    On a clean vista machine with less oomph than yours I typically see boot times of about 55 to 65 seconds.

    I recently reinstalled a machine for someone and noted that a couple of programs add significantly to the boot times--two of the worst are Norton (or any antivirus, but Norton was the worst) and itunes. Both added about 30 seconds each.
     
  3. SpeedyMods

    SpeedyMods Notebook Deity

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    That sounds very long to me. Boo to bloatware.

    Gerry, he isn't even talking to the desktop, just to the login screen.

    Greg
     
  4. Anticool

    Anticool Notebook Enthusiast

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    I do have both Norton and iTunes installed. May that be it.

    Furthermore, I intend to use Decrapifier to clean my PC... where do I find a list of programs that are safe to remove in my system.
     
  5. McGrady

    McGrady Notebook Virtuoso

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    All HP Products basically. I have none on my laptop. All preinstalled crap is uninstallable.
     
  6. Anticool

    Anticool Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well guys... I decided to do a reinstall... It now boots up in 1 minute, seconds more, seconds less.... So big improvement... now I just have to remove the bloatware.
     
  7. Jason B

    Jason B Notebook Enthusiast

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    It takes about 45 sec for me.
     
  8. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

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    A clean install will give you boot times of 30-50 seconds. Uninstalling the programs wont be as good as a clean install.
     
  9. Anticool

    Anticool Notebook Enthusiast

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    If I go into the events log I get two warnings:

    - System

    - Provider

    [ Name] Microsoft-Windows-Diagnostics-Performance
    [ Guid] {cfc18ec0-96b1-4eba-961b-622caee05b0a}

    EventID 200

    Version 1

    Level 3

    Task 4007

    Opcode 40

    Keywords 0x8000000000010000

    - TimeCreated

    [ SystemTime] 2008-10-23T02:36:46.059Z

    EventRecordID 87

    - Correlation

    [ ActivityID] {00000000-9B8C-0001-CD09-51A1B734C901}

    - Execution

    [ ProcessID] 2060
    [ ThreadID] 2516

    Channel Microsoft-Windows-Diagnostics-Performance/Operational

    Computer Nassef-PC

    - Security

    [ UserID] S-1-5-19


    - EventData

    ShutdownTsVersion 1
    ShutdownStartTime 2008-10-23T00:50:56.562Z
    ShutdownEndTime 2008-10-23T00:51:24.089Z
    ShutdownTime 27526
    ShutdownUserSessionTime 6425
    ShutdownUserPolicyTime 0
    ShutdownUserProfilesTime 3
    ShutdownSystemSessionsTime 17348
    ShutdownPreShutdownNotificationsTime 606
    ShutdownServicesTime 16586
    ShutdownKernelTime 3753
    ShutdownRootCauseStepImprovementBits 0
    ShutdownRootCauseGradualImprovementBits 0
    ShutdownRootCauseStepDegradationBits 0
    ShutdownRootCauseGradualDegradationBits 0
    ShutdownIsDegradation false
    ShutdownTimeChange 0

    AND

    System

    - Provider

    [ Name] Microsoft-Windows-Diagnostics-Performance
    [ Guid] {cfc18ec0-96b1-4eba-961b-622caee05b0a}

    EventID 100

    Version 1

    Level 3

    Task 4002

    Opcode 34

    Keywords 0x8000000000010000

    - TimeCreated

    [ SystemTime] 2008-10-23T02:36:47.291Z

    EventRecordID 88

    - Correlation

    [ ActivityID] {00000000-9B8C-0001-CE09-51A1B734C901}

    - Execution

    [ ProcessID] 2060
    [ ThreadID] 2508

    Channel Microsoft-Windows-Diagnostics-Performance/Operational

    Computer Nassef-PC

    - Security

    [ UserID] S-1-5-19


    - EventData

    BootTsVersion 2
    BootStartTime 2008-10-23T02:32:44.687Z
    BootEndTime 2008-10-23T02:36:44.210Z
    SystemBootInstance 20
    UserBootInstance 6
    BootTime 77646
    MainPathBootTime 49846
    BootKernelInitTime 16
    BootDriverInitTime 5617
    BootDevicesInitTime 6931
    BootPrefetchInitTime 77428
    BootPrefetchBytes 448643072
    BootAutoChkTime 0
    BootSmssInitTime 24905
    BootCriticalServicesInitTime 899
    BootUserProfileProcessingTime 1421
    BootMachineProfileProcessingTime 7
    BootExplorerInitTime 5828
    BootNumStartupApps 14
    BootPostBootTime 27800
    BootIsRebootAfterInstall false
    BootRootCauseStepImprovementBits 0
    BootRootCauseGradualImprovementBits 0
    BootRootCauseStepDegradationBits 0
    BootRootCauseGradualDegradationBits 0
    BootIsDegradation false
    BootIsStepDegradation false
    BootIsGradualDegradation false
    BootImprovementDelta 0
    BootDegradationDelta 0
    BootIsRootCauseIdentified false


    Does anyone hnow what this means???
     
  10. gerryf19

    gerryf19 I am the walrus

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    Yes, basically, it means your system is shutting down in 27 seconds and starting in 77 seconds.

    There is a lot of additional information which is being pulled from the Application and Service Logs > Microsoft > Windows > Diagnostics-Performance > Operational events

    I don' even know why that is throwing a warning. All of your degredation events are false. My guess is that this is taking a little longer than expected so it's throwing a warning.

    Since you just reinstalled, though, I wouldn't worry about it. Over the next few defragment cycles windows will move boot files to better locations to improve performance.
     
  11. Anticool

    Anticool Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thank you very much for your help.
     
  12. mujjuman

    mujjuman Notebook Deity

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    i agree but its still very helpful to uninstall all the bloatware and delete unneeded junk from the harddrive...
     
  13. OneSickOmen17t

    OneSickOmen17t Notebook Consultant

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    How do you access the "event log"?
     
  14. Anticool

    Anticool Notebook Enthusiast

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    Control Panel --- Performance Information and Tools --- Advanced Tools --- View Performance Details in Event Log