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    What's your Windows Experience Index (Vista)

    Discussion in 'HP' started by chi, Aug 6, 2007.

  1. chi

    chi Notebook Enthusiast

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    Go to Control Panel (Classic View) > Performance Information and Tools.

    Purchased my DV2000Z in Oct with XP Home. Upgraded to XP Pro and now Vista Ultimate:

    AMD Turion (TM) 64 X2 Mobile TL-50 (1.60GHz/256KB)
    14" WXGA BrightView Widescreen
    2.0GB DDR2 SDRAM (2x1GB) (UPGRADED RECENTLY)
    NVIDIA (R) GeForce(R) Go 6150
    LightScribe Super Multi 8X DVD +/-RW w/Double Layer
    160GB 7200rmp Seagate (UPGRADED RECENTLY)

    Processor: 4.6
    Memory: 5.3
    Graphics: 3.0
    Gaming graphics: 3.0
    Primary hard disk: 5.2

    BASE SCORE 3.0 (Determined by lowest subscore)
     
  2. sp00n

    sp00n Notebook Deity

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    Intel C2D L7500 1.6GHz
    2.0GB RAM
    Intel X3100
    120GB 5400RPM HDD

    [​IMG]
     
  3. SmoothTofu

    SmoothTofu Inspiron 1420 Owner

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    How come chi and sp00n both have 2 GB Ram, yet they have different Ram scores of 4.8 and 5.3?
     
  4. SP Forsythe

    SP Forsythe Notebook Evangelist

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    Smooth,

    Memory speed is not simply a function of Gigabytes.

    There is also other considerations:

    1. Frontside bus speed
    2. Clock speed of memory itself
    3. Dual or single Channel
    4. Windows SWAG variables*

    *My memory score is lower than Chi's, but it should be higher, as my bottlenecks are larger. So I guess it's true what people say... that you can't rely on WEI.

    [​IMG]
     
  5. flashram

    flashram Notebook Consultant

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    SP Forsythe Notebook Evangelist

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    That's a nice machine you got there Flashram. :)
     
  7. richard13

    richard13 Notebook Geek

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    I wonder how you guys with lesser video are getting better scores. :(
     

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  8. TomTom2007

    TomTom2007 Notebook Deity

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    3.3 here.... hehe


    Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5600 @ 1.83GHz -------- 4.8
    Memory (RAM) 2.00 GB ------------------------------------ 4.5
    Graphics NVIDIA GeForce Go 7400 -------------------------- 3.7
    Gaming graphics 623 MB Total available graphics memory ---- 3.3
    Primary hard disk 13GB Free (105GB Total) ------------------ 4.6
     
  9. Algus

    Algus Notebook Deity

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    When I changed my 6150's allocated RAM from 64 MB to 32 MB my memory (RAM) went from a 4.9 to 5.1 >.>

    Solid 3.0 with the GeForce Go accounting for the lowest score. No complaints from me.
     
  10. Lithus

    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    WEI is one of the worst benchmarks to use. It is highly dependent on what programs are running in the background and how good the drivers are on the hardware. Instead of WEI, use PCMark and 3DMark instead.
     
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    suland Notebook Evangelist

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    4.6 is quite good...My machine is flying! ;)
     

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    ryannel2003 Notebook Geek

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    Haha... here is my WEI Score. Um yeah, i just ordered a 1GB stick of RAM from Crucial. That will definitely speed up the computer.
     

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    djeuch Notebook Enthusiast

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    I know it's a slow hard drive - going to replace both my 80GB drives with the new faster 250GB notebook drives!
     

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    pj66 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm also getting 2.7 for a graphics score. I thought the 7200 was a better video card than the 6150. Poor drivers perhaps?
     
  15. digicamhelp

    digicamhelp Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    Gaming score! What's gaming?
     
  16. richard13

    richard13 Notebook Geek

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    IMHO, to say the drivers are poor is probably an understatement. No matter which version I've used they all crash my system eventually (screen goes completely blank). The only thing I can do is press and hold the power button to shut the system down. Even then they sometimes crash on the subsequent reboot. I've never seen such lousy support than I have for the Go 7200.
     
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    sonyfxa36 Notebook Evangelist

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    w_tanoto Notebook Consultant

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    HP Pavilion zd7377EA base score: 3.0
    Processor: 3.8 (Pentium 4 HT 3.2GHz)
    Memory: 4.3 (2047MB)
    Graphic: 5.9 (nVIDIA GeForce Go 5700 - I just can't believe the score, because it just have 128MB)
    Gaming Graphic: 3.0
    HDD: 4.2 (100GB 5400rpm)



    HP Omnibook XE3 base score: 1.0
     
  19. Storm3016

    Storm3016 Notebook Evangelist

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    My (128mb) 8400GT is my bottleneck, but after updating the Nvidia driver my score went up from 4.2 to 4.3. Not that it means anything, it's only a slight indication at most.
     
  20. SMBguy

    SMBguy Notebook Guru

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    3.1

    w/ a 2.2 ghz, 256mb 8600 gs, 2 gb ram, and (240 - 120 x 2 ) hd

    wth.

    Everything is in the high 4's except for my ram...which gives it the 3.1 - why's my 2gbs giving so low when everybody elses gives much higher...???
     
  21. SMBguy

    SMBguy Notebook Guru

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    Woooo EEeeee

    I used the update link and I have a 4.6 cause of the graphics..... dang GS.

    What is the max?? If it's like 10...i take my whoooo eeee back.
     
  22. Reby

    Reby Notebook Consultant

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    HP Pavilion dv9500t CTO Base Index Score 4.6

    Processor: 5.1
    Memory: 4.8
    Graphic: 4.6
    Gaming Graphic: 4.9
    HDD: 5.2

    -Reby
     
  23. Reby

    Reby Notebook Consultant

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    I think it caps out at 5.9 or 6.0 and I think I read you had to score an overall score of 3 or better to enable aero.
     
  24. Lithus

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    There's no cap, it's designed to go on forever. When Vista came out, 5 was reserved for the most powerful machines. However, though I try to tell people that the WEI is useless, they continue threads like these.
     
  25. TheArnski

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    Base Index Score: 3.0

    Processor: 4.7
    Memory: 5.1
    Graphics: 3.1
    Gaming Graphics: 3.0
    Primary hard disk: 4.9
     
  26. imzomnia

    imzomnia Notebook Evangelist

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    My XPS M1330 got a base score of 4.1
     
  27. mystery905

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    Because AMD CPU's have faster memory access/lower latencies due to the memory controller being imbedded in the processor. Intel CPU's memory controllers are on the motherboard, and adds additional bottleneck when CPU needs to access memory. Intel tries to compensate for this by having more L2 cache. But if the data being referenced is > size of L2 cache, speeds decline drastically.
     
  28. mystery905

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    Here are my scores:

    Processor AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 4.7
    Memory (RAM) 1.87 GB 5.9
    Graphics NVIDIA GeForce Go 6150 3.4
    Gaming graphics 623 MB Total available graphics memory 3.0
    Primary hard disk 87GB Free (149GB Total) 4.9

    Graphics Driver: 165.01 from laptopvideo2go.com
     
  29. Reby

    Reby Notebook Consultant

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    Hmm, well I just checked and saw this on microsoft's website:

    The scale of the Windows Experience Index ranges from 1.0 to 5.9. A higher base score generally means that your computer will perform better and faster than a computer with a lower base score, especially when performing more advanced and resource-intensive tasks.

    So it does cap at 5.9, or at least so says Microsoft. WEI may be useless but it lets some users here know what to expect based on similar hardware. So useless for you maybe, but I'm sure others are interested in what everybody else score'd based on different hardware configurations.
     
  30. Lithus

    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    The cap is designed to move. Once many computers are getting close to the cap, it will be moved higher.

    The thing that bothers me and most professionals about the WEI is that it's misleading. Giving information to newbies is good. Giving them bad information is worse than not giving them information at all. Industry standard benchmarks are great for general comparison. The WEI is not, and shouldn't be used other than to brag about something useless. It wouldn't bother me if it was remotely accurate, but to have people ask "Why is my WEI score so low", or say "the new driver improved my graphics score from 3.1-3.2", it gets annoying to constantly tell them that it in-fact doesn't mean a thing.
     
  31. kotsoswin

    kotsoswin Notebook Guru

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    It appears that people either just do not listen or choose not to listen.
     
  32. BigBoy92

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    Dell Vostro 1500:

    [​IMG]
     
  33. jack53

    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    How did you change that? In setup? BIOS?
     
  34. Lithus

    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    The current maximum seems to be 9.9.

    [​IMG]

    Off of my Asus G1s. Ain't this cool? I pwn all of you with my WEI score yay!!! I feel so cool right now.

    Actual WEI for comparison.

    [​IMG]

    Again, useless.
     
  35. BigBoy92

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    Haha yeh Vista ratings really dont mean $h!t
     
  36. Rottie

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    from your BIOS they have 32, 64, and 128 but I have to tell you I tried to change 32 to 128 and back to 64 does not change WEI at all.
     
  37. jin07

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    Everybody, don't worry about the WEI. If you want to benchmark your system, use actual benchmark programs. It's not like you have to pay money to use 3Dmark06 or PCmark05.
     
  38. SauronMOS

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    It's kind of funny that you're saying WEI is useless and to run 3DMark or PCMark instead ;)

    I mean, Futuremark software has always been highly unreliable in accurately benchmarking your hardware.

    Going all the way back to the beginning, you could run 3DMark twice in a row and get two very different scores. I remember during the 3DMark2001 days, I dropped a new processor in my system (ran at nearly twice the clock speed and a faster FSB), upgraded the GPU, and maxed out the RAM the motherboard could handle. What happened? Well, even though the framerate in every game I played doubled, literally, my 3DMark score went up by a whole 500 points.

    A friend of mine pointed out how inaccurate 3DMark was, and how your score could change and vary just by running the test twice, and he was banned instantly and the administrators and moderators never replied to any of his emails.

    3DMark and PCMark are just as much of a joke as the Windows Experience Index.
     
  39. jack53

    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    I agree. Plus it takes way too long to download and takes up unneeded space.

    It seems to me that WEI works fine.
     
  40. mystery905

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    No benchmark is 'standardized'. Just take them with a grain of salt and use them appropriately. ie.. compare only to another system using the same benchmark with same version and OS.
     
  41. Lithus

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    In the reviews here, we use a combination of 3DMark, PCMark, SuperPi, WPrime, and HDTune to bench a system and standardize it's performance. Each benchmark on it's own can have inaccuracies, but together, they allow NBR to give the reader a number that they can compare with other computers. Using WEI for this number is not the way to go.
     
  42. jack53

    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    WRONG!!! WEI CAN be use along with the others for comparison!!!

    Just because WEI doesn't give the score some of you LIKE, doesn't mean it is bad or whatever. Quit whinning!
     
  43. Lithus

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    Why would I whine? My perfect 9.9 WEI puts me ahead of the class.

    The fact that the x3100 gets a better graphics score than the 8400m GS in the dv6500t is an example of how misleading this can be. You can tell me to stop whining when people stop posting "why is my wei so low" and "how do I incease my wei score".
     
  44. jack53

    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    My mistake and that IS a great score! I think it is the graphic card that brings alot of the scores way down.
     
  45. RdKryton

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    AMD Turion 64 x2 lt50
    2 gig ram
    Nividia Geforce Go 7600 256 meg dedicated
    Vista Ultimate 32bit
     

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    That's almost the info I was looking for...

    - HP DV6565CA (with NVDIA 8400m GS) gave me this 3.1 WEI score and I saw that some folks could get a better performance index with a slower integrated graphic solution like the intel X3100. Couldn't not find someone with same laptop model with the WEI score up to now.

    All this to say that WEI could be somehow useful to compare computers between each other but should definitely become a standard in its own by comparing same brand's models between each other for debuging purpose.

    The laptop that I purchase was not brand new but open box. It is actually a "return" from a previous buyer. I was a bit suspicious about the reason why the laptop was return and I decided to give it a try (it was such a great deal!). So I checked almost every features and the WEI was somehow handy. If someone with the same laptop tell be he get a WEI of 4.5 for windows desktop experience then their is definitely something wrong.

    However I do agreed with most of you about the pertinance of WEI's "benchmark" results for comparing various technology performance.

    That would be interesting to know how Microsoft geeks design this benchmark test.
     
  47. w_tanoto

    w_tanoto Notebook Consultant

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    newest figure: HP Pavilion HDX
    T7500, 400GB HDD 4200rpm, 2GB RAM, 20 inch, ATi Radeon Mobility HD 2600XT, Blu-ray drive (internal), HD DVD drive (external - originally internal), draft-n, 10/100.
    Base: 4.8 (Memory)
    the rest of it, above 5.1, max 5.9
     
  48. jack53

    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    In other words your BASE score is 4.8
     
  49. DBM

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    8510w, 7300 2meg ram Nvidia 570 m Graphics card 7200 disk
    Windows experience 4.8
    processor 4.9
    Ram 4.8
    Graphics 5.9
    Gaming Graphics 5.5
    Hard disk 5.2
     
  50. langjie

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    BS!!!!! the highest the WEI goes to is 5.9 (currently) and will probably be another year before they raise it higher
     
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