Which is a better machine: 1.8GHz duo T5600 FSB 667MHz w/ Nvidia 7400 or 1.6GHz duo T5200 FSB 533MHz w/ Nvida 7600?

Which is a better machine: 1.8GHz duo T5600 FSB 667MHz w/ Nvidia 7400 or 1.6GHz duo T5200 FSB 533MHz w/ Nvida 7600?

I guess what I'm really asking is which would be a bigger bottle neck, the computer w/ the lower FSB or the one with the lower end graphics card.

I only ask because I can get them for about the same sale price. The one with the better graphics card is a t9000us model and the other is a t6000us that comes w/ a tv tuner.

Here are the specs for each:

http://www.shopping.hp.com/product/computers/notebooks/dv9000t_series/rts/4/computer_store/EPP_00_RP246UA%2523ABA


http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/product_detail.do?product_code=RP284UA%23ABA&tab=overview&storeName=computer_store&landing=computers&category=notebooks/dv6000t_series&subcat1=rts&catLevel=4#defaultAnchor

If anyone could help me figure out which is the more balanced machine I would appreciate it, thank you.

 

Bottleneck for what? Computer processing(CPU usage) or Graphic processing(GPU usage)?

 

I'm wondering which will become outdated sooner, the one with the 533MHz CPU or the one with the 128 MB GPU

 

Both Notebooks should do well for browsing the internet, Office/word and other general task but I would chose the Lappy with the 7600 because it will do a lot better in games even though the CPU is limited by the 533 FSB get aleast 1 gig (2 recommended).
Take a look this chart comparing mobile graphics cards
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html

 

the dv9000t you are looking at does not also have a TV tuner? Do you happen to know the model number for that build? I only ask because when I was shopping for laptops a couple months back all the dv9000 series systems I looked in retail stores at had TV tuners.

If it were my choice I would opt for th dv9000t system. The TV tuner is sort of cool but I would not pass up the chance to get a system with the T5600 over a T5200. One reason being is the T5600 supports hardware virtulization.

Plus you are considering a 17" display vs. a 15.4"...make sure you are comparing apples to apples by comparing the display's resolution too. If the 17" is only WXGA+ and the 6000 is WSXGA+ or higher that is another consideration. Also if the 9000 comes with an ULTRA Bright View display that makes it a different decision...anymore there are so many things to compare. That is why the actual model/build number for the laptops in question matter so much.

Everything being equal...I would opt for the T5600 if it simply comes to that...the FSB is really not anything that matters to us "irregular" users...likely they put 533mhz RAM in it anyway.

 

This is the model I'm looking at (dv9220us)

http://www.shopping.hp.com/product/computers/notebooks/dv9000t_series/rts/4/computer_store/EPP_00_RP246UA%2523ABA

but actually it comes w/ a T5200 but with a better graphics card than the T5600 model I'm looking at (DV6275US).

http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/store_access.do?template_type=product_detail&product_code=RP284UA%23ABA&jumpid=oc_R1002_USENC-001_HP%20Pavilion%20dv6275us%20Notebook%20PC&lang=en&cc=us

What exactly is hardware virtualization btw?

 

If you mean Intel virtualization then take a look at this article.
http://www.intel.com/technology/virtualization/index.htm

 

HW virtulization, if you haven't read the link, is simply the CPU supports "virtual machines." It gets pretty complicated after that so the link is the best source for info. I think if ya don't already know what it is, you'll likely never use it...hehehehehe...then agin it's a nice feature in a system.

I use it to run all my IE sessions on the internet. Which means I never need worry about 99.9% of the security and/or virus issues out there. If something gets infected or corrupted I simply would kill off the virtural machine session. Right now I have a T2400 CPU which does not support hardware virtulization so I have to let software emulate it...the hardware virtulization is lots faster is really what it means.

If looked at both machines you posted. One is a 17" with a bit slower graphics card and a slightly CPU and the other is a 15.4" with a slightly slower CPU and slightly faster graphics card. Neither system is a "better" system or deal really. It's more which fits your needs best. And only you can answer that really. What will ya be using the system for...?

The 17" has a slightly higher resolution (WXGA+ = 1440x900) then the 15.4" system (WSXGA = 1280x800)

Actually that is pretty much a wash with the same amount of information showing on each system. But on the 17" it will be larger and might be easier on your eyes.

I actually had a dv9000 series system with simlar specs to this one and loved it...I did return it for other reasons that really had nothing to do with the quality of the system...

Since really there is not much difference spec wise I would opt for the larger display. But, I am not one to worry about a few ounces difference in weight or the size differnce when actually take my system with me. I just find the larger display meets my needs better. One trade off there is battery life is a bit lower. Figure around 2.5hrs to maybe 3hrs (max) battery time with wifi enabled and power settings just right. You will get more time on the dv6000 series system.

I also do not play games. If you do then the video is far more important then I would ever care about. That others can answer far better and I am sure they will )or have while I have been typing this...)

If this helps it is possible and also far easier to upgrade the CPU later on should you decide the need is there then it would be to upgrade the graphics card. It's also going to be much cheaper to buy a faster CPU later on then a graphics card. But know that if you do and HP does not do it for you, it will void the warranty. So it's best done after the warranty expires.

I don't think either system is bad at all...like I wrote already, also the TV tuner does not really "blow my skirt up" either. If it were up to me I would opt for the larger display as that you are always stuck with that and other parts can be changed (though paying someone to do it and the parts are not cheap)...

Ultimately, toss a coin? They really are that close to my eye...

 

CPUs can be easily upgraded, GPUs cannot. When looking for a laptop, take a look at GPU and screen size/resolution first before worrying about CPU.

 

It may also be possible to pin mod the FSB to 166 MHz, which would give you 2.0 GHz. This would void your warranty, of course.

But no matter if you leave it as it is, pin mod, or upgrade CPU later on: the 7600 is a better choice.

 

How do you do that?

Anyways I have the 9220us and its great for games.

 

Thanks for the help guys. I ended up getting a HP DV9235NR for $1400. It has the same specs as the 17" but has a tv tuner tossed in too for the same price I would have paid for the other model. Should be here in a few days; looking forward to it!