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    Why do HP Laptops have poor screens

    Discussion in 'HP' started by meansizzler, Oct 30, 2008.

  1. meansizzler

    meansizzler Notebook Consultant

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    Not just HP but most notebook manufactuers use really poor LCD's with poor viewing angles, poor blacks and basically a washed out display as seen on most HP DV series laptop both 14.1" and 15.4" displays, seems you only get a decent display i.e one with an LED backlight if your paying up to £1000 and above...

    I mean no wonder they are so cheap £500 for a decent spec lappy with a cruddy screen, I mean why have a blu ray drive in the machine as the display is so poor it's hard to tell the difference between SD and HD material let alone see it unless the lights are off, and you spend 5 minutes trying to tilt the screen to get a viewable picture..

    Samsung Q210 is an example of a good spec laptop, cheap price but poor display...

    One of the main things people underestimate and don't think about when buying a laptop is the display, which is the most important thing as that's what your will be working from, walk into pretty much any store selling computer or laptops and the last thing the slas person will tell you when selling a laptop is about the display, in fact they won't mention it, all they will say is HD display and that's it, HD means nothing just a term which a bunch of numbers related to it, what good is a HD display if it has poor viewing angles, poor blacks and washed out image, an example of this is the new Macbook, they claim LED but i've seen it in person does not look like LED backlight, just another washed out display...,

    So when you go and buy a laptop compare them all, look at the displays, tilt them up and down and see if you are able to work from it, then head over to the Sony TZ and Z series laptops, compare the displays to them, you probably won't find a better looking display than them, but use them as an example...

    Bottom line is don't pay attention to anyone, I find it best to bring in a USB stick on with some decent pictures on and HD videos, i.e from www.wmvhd.com and just test them out on various laptops, see which was has the best displayfor your budget, some times it's best to spend the extra £100 or 200 one a laptop that has a more pleasing display....

    Anyway can't wait to see the HP mininote 1000 in person, to see how it's LED backlit display looks as all the netbooks have bad displays...
     
  2. Infamous22

    Infamous22 Notebook Deity

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    I'm happy with the screen on my DV7. I haven't had any viewing angle problems.
     
  3. ahl395

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    The dv9700, dv6700, etc. All have very nice screens...

    Its the new line (dv7, dv5, etc) that arent as nice.

    But The Inspiron 1520 has a horrible dark screen. One of the worst.
     
  4. nomoredell

    nomoredell Notebook Deity

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    ur absolutely right, but then i find nothing wrong with lcd makers pushing for
    led displays.
    computers with led screens are relatively cheap in the States. u can get one within $600-800 range.
    according to some article found on google, led screen is 70% more expensive than ccfl one.
     
  5. cpu2k

    cpu2k Notebook Consultant

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    agreed... my DV7 out of the box looked washed out... I had to adjust it in order to make it look remotely usable...

    unfortunately, that seems to be the trend at the moment... people want cheaper machines... and manufacturers are using mediocre panels on low-mid end notebooks...

    with use of LED-backlight being more common now... hope the quality of panels are better...
     
  6. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

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    You seem to have a very high standard when it comes to LCD screens.

    HP's have glossy screen which doesnt have great viewing angles and have hi-glare.

    Look for a notebook with an IPS screen.
     
  7. vistabad

    vistabad Notebook Evangelist

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    You just read my mind. I have been thinking about this all day and just made a post 10 mins ago in another forum about HP's new HDX18t laptop.

    at 18.4" they tell you it's ultrabright blah blah but there is no spec on it.

    Is it 300nits? 400nits? They don't tell you!!

    I'm on my HP tabletPC right now and I wish it were MUCH brighter...

    I just checked out the latest macbook and it looks CLEAN but not bright.
    If that is LED, I'm not entirely impressed...
     
  8. techno3

    techno3 Notebook Enthusiast

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    i've had my dv7 non infinity screen 1440x900 for a couple weeks and even at full brightness, i'm wondering if my vision is going dim.

    tweaked the colors a little - can't go any brighter or it will really wash out.

    definitely not as nice a screen as my old acer 5672, but the tradeoff is it's a much better computer overall than the acer.
     
  9. ahl395

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    I dont know why they decresed their excellent screen quality down to the new line... It makes no sense, usually it should get better... :confused:
     
  10. Richteralan

    Richteralan Notebook Evangelist

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    Do some gamma calibrations and you'll be at least 50% happier.
     
  11. meansizzler

    meansizzler Notebook Consultant

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    Trouble with Intel graphics is you can't adjust the gamma, well reduce it below 1.0, with Intel/Ati on desktop delays I find reducing it to 0.75 gives the best image, with some laptops, no amount of adjusting fixes the washed out display, although with a 14.1" HP Lappy l I managed to get watchable HD video by adjusting the Nvidia Video Overlay took 10 minutes of fine tuning, why they don't do this out of the box is beyond me..

    My Vaio TZ has an LED Panel, knocks the socks off any other display, has GMA 950 and didn't even mess with one setting was perfect out of the box...
     
  12. meansizzler

    meansizzler Notebook Consultant

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    My Friend bough the First HP with HD-DVD for $2500 when it came out, it had a 15.4" 1440*900 LCD, playing back HD Video on it didn't look that Impressive, my 15" 1024*768 Desktop TFT whiped the floor with it in terms of colour/brightness and detail.. they have always used crap panels, only until the LED backlight ones have been out have they been getting better, but they come at a cost
     
  13. meansizzler

    meansizzler Notebook Consultant

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    Nope just want one that is as good as a cheap desktop LCD, not one which is barely viewable in light... it's not about the gloss, just a crap panel that's all, I have a 4 year old 15" 1024*768 IBM TFT that has better quality than these washed out displays, even though that has poor viewing angles...
     
  14. meansizzler

    meansizzler Notebook Consultant

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    I had a look at the new macbook they say LED but it's washed out and has poor viewing angles, compared to the macbook pro which does indeed look much better and more like LED, I think they are lying about using LED for the macbook as it looks pants, also the sony AW with it's Double Lamp X-Black display is washed out too...
     
  15. uncming

    uncming Notebook Consultant

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    My DV5T screen looks great to me, without any adjustments. Its especially nice when watching a movie in the dark ( I did notice that if I have background light, like a window, it made it hard to see - but that is expected from this kind of high gloss screen)
     
  16. vistabad

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    I found out that the macbookpro uses a different LED screen!!

    If you get the macbook, it's lower quality and it's a different vendor or something like that.

    Over at the mac forums they are complaining that the MB and MBP are vastly different in screen quality.
     
  17. Guntraitor Sagara

    Guntraitor Sagara Notebook Evangelist

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    dv6700 screen nice? lol. maybe with an LG screen, yes. :D
     
  18. Tippey764

    Tippey764 Notebook Deity

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    I have never had a problem with a moniter other then a dead pixel and weird bright spots. I dont even understand half of the problems like bleeding and such. I gusse they just all come right for me or somthing.