Windows XP on DV7T

Yes Alexandrus
Getting audio to work is my only prob as I use xp[ partition only for music production and another vista one for internert. I slipstreamed xp sp2 with all the sata drivers and worked like a charm. I use an external audio firewire device and it doesn't see it at all let alon on board audio. Vista doesn't see audio firewire devices either and this is why I work with laptops..for portable music production..so I gave up and back to desktop..I will make a "portable desktop" soon. Thanks for all the work some have done.

 

My thanks to all who have contributed to this thread.

As i said earlier... not all my internal speakers work, but thats not a big deal to me. the sound quality is still very good (and if i want great quality, i can use headphones).

That is the only problem I am having.


3 days from now, the new ubuntu release comes out. I so cannot wait to get it on my PC. It is supposed to have direct support for the built-in wifi card (intel 5100).

 

New driver for Audio IDT is published by HP since 10/2008 but very HaRd to find...
Its with the vista's you can download on the HP support's website

EnJoY !

 

And we should care about a new IDT driver for Vista why ?

 

sorry im french my english is bad.
The driver is for xp but include in the pack for vista
In this pack you have a folder called "WDM" and in this folder 2 another folder one is "Vista" the another is "XP"

the setup is ok on xp too.

i know you dont care about driver for vista

 

Wow Kitati..does this mean a working UAA? That's all I need because I have to get firewire audio going and I have that audio driver.

 

Otherwise why would they supply "Drivers for Intel SATA AHCI sp32478"
on their drivers and software page?

 

It is a Vista driver, but I think we should care!

Wonderfully, I did finally get 3 speaker sound, but I still can't get the change to stick after XP restart...thanks for this info Kitati, but could you provide instructions on how you get the drivers to stick or stay?

I don't know how the devcon hack works, but I need to run the KB835221 update everytime on start up.

It may not setup perfectly, but it sounds perfect in 3 speaker sound!

Regards,

Gdawon

Addendum:
Now when I shutdown/restart I am asked to manually end program: Sigmatel-IDT-SysTray, could this be the problem?

 

on my laptop its the same, i install the MS fix that you can find in this pack and execute setup.

3 speakers are ok, microphone is ok

But after a restart there is the same problem, file.bat+devcon still the solution

 

Ok then that's confirmed. The new Vista driver does contain a proper XP driver, although unfortunately it doesn't stick. Thanks all the same Kitati this is still great news!

 

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the reply.

I've switched back to Vista since I couldn't waste more time trying to install XP but I just can't stand this OS any more so I'm giving it a try again !

I'm a bit confused with your explanations, probably because of my bad english. If I understand correctly, I have to do the following steps:
- Install XP (SP2 can boot, SP3 doesn't)
- At first boot install the daemon thing and reboot in normal mode. (Sometimes this works)
- Install the drivers and windows updates (usually back to slow boots there)
- Reboot in safe mode and press esc hoping that the BD will be detected

If thats the correct steps, then the last one fails (I've tried probably 10 times) and still no BD detected and still very slow or no boot...

I'm totally lost in what to do and very frustrated since this computer is meant to be my work computer...

Thanks for any help,

Ben

 

Same driver available on WindowsUpdate.com, so no need to download the full25MB from HP when a simple 1.4MB from WU will do the job eve better, with a proper CPL. But now, when I use the wheel on my mouse, I hear a noise from the speakers. Great driver....

 

ramine, you either didn't read the topic or didn't quite understand much of it.
XP SP2 works as long as SATA drivers are slipstreamed, so does SP3. I preffer SP3 as I found it easier to install, no need for a long list of updates.
The Deamon Tools ASPI can be installed last, actually it's better this way, and if you have SP3 the BD drive will give you less trouble.
There is no hoping and guessing here, it's all been explained and like I said a dozen times already, everything works(at least for me, and I even linked to the drivers I used) except the mute button color, Fn+brightness and IDT needs the devcon.exe trick.


PS. Oh yeah, and the new F.13 BIOS just fubared my ntldr so I had to reinstall everything all over again, so I wasn't lucky the first time around to make it work.

 

Hi Alex,

I've been reading fully this topic several times and, apart from the sptd trick, didn't find any clear answer to the slow boot. My English isn't so flash so I may have missed something...

As I said, I've tried with either an SP2 or SP3 version of windows with no success. Although I get a bit further when installing from SP2.

Since I cannot install all the drivers and updates of windows because I eventually get an endless boot, I cannot install the daemon tool last... (installing everything means several reboots)

FrogTech seems to have different tricks to get his BD to be recognized, maybe somebody knows what the other tricks are ?

Thanks,

 

Have you slipstreamed the SATA drivers ? Because without those, by by. It's strange it does not work for you, worked for everyone else.
There are not many tricks to getting the BD detected, you can disable it at first boot, do your thing, then enable it once the other updates and drivers are installed.

 

Wow kitaki i cant wait to get this driver to try it out. Did you try out the UAA driver thats in the driver pack too?

 

Well, If I didn't slip streamed the SATA, I wouldn't even have been able to install XP at all so obviously I did that. If you have a look on other forums, you will realize that I'm not the only one at all that have this issue.

I've tried basically everything that has been said on either this topic or some others and couldn't make it work. Strangely, in September, it worked sort of ok for about 3 weeks then didn't recognised the BD anymore... I've also tried different XP sources with no success.

I'm gonna try your trick of disabling it and re enabling it once everything is installed, maybe it'll help...

Thanks for the advice.

Edit: Since it works when the BD is disabled, I think I'm gonna stick with XP with no CD drive enabled and have dual boot with Vista for the music and CD related stuff...

 

OK, since I happened to run across my old stash of Windows CDs, I booted from the Win98SE CD, did a fdisk /mbr, rebooted. Then used fdisk to wipe out the unknown partition (NTFS). Rebooted. Did fdisk /mbr again for good measure, then created a primary partition using the entire disk and made it active. Rebooted using Windows Volume SP2 w/ SP3+SATA slipstreamed. Answered all the question, second reboot, everything comes up great, I login and look around. Then I shutdown the computer. Power it on, let Windows boot normally and it hangs and eventually reboots and does the "No bootable device" dance.

Do I just have a bum OS disk or something? I've installed a dozen systems with the same source CD with no problems, but that doesn't necessarily prove anything.

-/\/

 

sorry for any already cover threads
update with xp on dv7t
idt still not automatically fixed y/n
no keyboard touch keys working except wireless y/n
no software for fingerprint scanner y/n
remote keyboard no drivers y/n

i think thats all that is not working on mine
again sorry if thess things are fixed if anyone can point me to correct threads or links etc thanks
Andy

 

CASTROPHE!
1st attemp to install XP with page one sata drivers excellent(slip streamed). I have 2 hard drives. When I tried to clear hard drives and repartion and put xp on partiton where I wished, and xp would install, restart, then stop on HP intro screen where it ways press esc for startup.

NO BOOT. This means no usb floppy, no Ghost, no vista , no partiton magic etc. Vista would dissapear but at least I could reinstall vista, but soon even vista wouldn't install.
This leads me to believe there is something in bios preventing this operation or sometlhing invisible on hard drives. I have "show hidden files" and there was zip on hard drives, How could this possibly become dead? HP has a box on the way and sending it back.

On my DV 9410us this was absolutely no prob.
Oh and I forgot to say: Even the restore disks I made and the factory ones supplied by case manager would not do a thing. Bad bios???

So no boot : stops on HP intro screen where it ways press esc for startup - machine is dead- This is actually worse than the dreaded Nvidia graphic card meltdown (Now I have no boot-no xp audiio or audio firewire on Vista or XP). I used partion manager to get rid of that tenacious restore partition. It did its job by rebooting into dos. I'll starting reading and rereading the posts on this thread now.

PS- This was with XP Pro SP2. I also tried it with my XP SP2 Home and nothing too.

 

I've emailed this page of thread to HP who I am in contact with. I received my box just now. I asked them NOT TO PUT ON VISTA when they send it back(Its not really a full version anytway and has that dreaded restore partion) I'm trying to get to the bottom of this. Reguardless of how audio drivers work...O/S's should install with no prob. What's different....SATA. . Also HP supplies Sata drivers on software and drivers pager and they don't work. The page one ones do (on this thread). At least my PC stays cool. Also their tool for getting rid of restore partition didn't work. It said my floppy was wrong size.

PS I have a full version of Vista if I wish to install it

 

I had a similar experience with failed XP install which resulted in a corrupt Vista install. No booting to HD, no boot to CD/DVD nothing. HP thought it was a faulty HD and replaced it. When I tried again it did the same thing exactly.

See my earlier post:

" If you get stuck the same way as Xnera did at page 11 of this thread: where the laptop stalls at the HP logo screen, or no boot device the only way I was able to get around this was to take the HD out, mount in a USB external caddy and actually delete the Vista partition or format and try again.

After failed XP installs my DV7 got stuck at the HP logo screen, it would not boot to Vista, nor allow booting from any DVD/CD (including GParted live etc). Out on a limb I popped it into my Dell laptop and it booted up perfectly, only when I put it into a USB case and deleted the partition completely from another PC would the DV7 allow me to recover the Vista OS.

This appears to be a bios issue (Who knows?) as this reoccured in exactly the same manner even after HP replaced the "faulty" HD .

Summary: If your Vista HD is corrupted and you can't even boot to CD, physically take the HD out and delete the partition from another PC and then restore from DVD.

Successful installation of XP is another kettle of fish."

 

moocha: Sorry to hear that, but I'm sort of glad I'm not the only one ...

-/\/

 

Ah Ha...That means I have to get a usb 2.5 inch enclosure for my desktop or put in another laptop. Well it can't be a bad hard drive cause I have 2 and it did the same on both....thanks alot for bringing this to my attention...looks like you're right on beam. So I'll get used to this work around. I got rid of that restore partition with a 3rd party program so it was other stuff on HD....but I think the bios is involved as you said. It looks like a nice pc, I hope Nvidia goes OK too. I'm gonna have to read all the posts here carefully.

Edit: You know, all I need is 3 drivers as I don't use xp for anything else but for music production. I believe my graphic and chipset drivers are fine. Now all I need is some genius to find right UAA so I can install my firewire audio devices...Not much to ask?

 

That's the only thing I found would work. It seems that when I was installing XP over Vista, even though I was directing the XP install to a separate HD, some of the files were still copied to the Vista HD.

This may have been because the Vista HD is the primary HD and the install defaults to copying the files it needs there. I've asked lots of forums and noone has ever explained it to me.

I only put the HD in a USB case after the DV7 came back from repair with a new HD and exactly the same thing happened, I needed to get some audio files. I was at wits end when I put in my Dell laptop and it booted up. Perhaps the DV7 bios is more sensitive or something, who knows?

In the end I had something like 15 failed XP installs, and each time I had to take out the HD put it into the USB case and format. My last straw was to take and leave out the Vista HD while installing XP into the other HD. I then reconnected the Vista HD and used EasyBCD to set up dual-booting.

If you're lucky and have Vista install disks, then delete everything install XP first, then Vista.

I use my DV7 for DJing and have never had issues with my USB soundcard.

 

Thanks GDAwon
"I use my DV7 for DJing and have never had issues with my USB soundcard."
Well i do have a lexicon Omega. It uses much more cpu than my firewire. I could try it. It sounds alot like my Delta PCI but not quite as clear...Its an idea...HMMM.

What worked on my last laptop was make 3 or 4 partitions on disk one. On the 1st put xp and on the 2 or 3 vista. On second disk goes audio etc.

As to audio, which UAA did you use? And if you used HP audio, which driver? Can you give me a link por favor?? Maybe I'll write on the Delta and gig with my lambda?

Thanks alot-You seem to know what's happening.

 

Unlike you I don't have any Vista install disks, so I had to stick with Vista on HD1, and because XP wouldn't install properly on a separate partition on HD1 I had to go with HD2. Once I get a Vista DVD and 7200rpm HDs I'll do it proper just the way you state. I'm also looking forward to installing OSX once the 9600M is fully supported by hackintosh OSes.

I installed SP3 (but didn't slipstream) fairly soon after XP was up and running on which I probably shouldn't have in hindsight, the latest (I think) UAA is 888111 but that only works with SP2, there are workarounds and perhaps this issue has already been rectified to my ignorance.

The full set of drivers I used are from the French guys, they rock!
Kitati helpfully let everyone know about the new drivers for XP which come in the Vista pack.

I now have full 3 speaker sound with everything I need up and running. I don't know about you but I needed Wifi access to update and validate my software.

Hit me up for any specific issues & good luck.

H

NB: Tried to attach links to the French Drivers pack and the UAA audio issue but can't as I haven't hit 15 posts. I'll PM you if you accept PMs.

 

Wow, I see the light...
Yes, I will have a 7200 to start with(PUT INTO 2ND SLOT) and first partiton it with orig vista on hd1 as received. I tried partiton magic boot originally and it said it didn';t like vista but maybe I'll just try the 7200 by itself and then try PMagic. Any how, the 7200 in slot one and use the 2nd HD they provided in the same slot it came in. That means the original Hard drive vith vista on it will sit on my desk. Tee Hee-You've given me hope...I was almost ready to go back to gramophones.

 

Also, when I put my 7200(150 sata) in the second slot and tried to have Vista(that came with PC) partiton and format it, it said it couldn't initialize itthough it saw it and showed the size. I used partition manager to do it. Do new drives need some kind of initialization disk? I know I've needed them before at time on my desktop. My 7200 had no disk with it.(this drive is prob good but it doesn't show now so I'm sending back for exchange just in case.)

 

I'm not sure about the HD issues you're having, but it could be that Vista doesn't support the HD controller for the motherboard of the DV7. Basically you'd have to install the SATA drivers manually as you have to with XP. I guess the issue is that the DV7 has new hardware that the Vista install disks don't support. This sounds crazy considering the Vista disks were shipped with the DV7 but is plausible if the OEM Vista installs are still a step behind the DV7.
Someone here might know more...

 

Thanks, I decided not to send vbackd the 7200 as neither do the 2 5400s work either . i have 30 days for return. You have helped me sort this and now eventually it should work..XP audio firewire is only thing left it looks like. The enclosure I ordered should get back the same time my laptop comes bck.

Thanks Tons

 

moocha: I was able to finally get XP installed *and* booting now with GDawon's original suggestion. I was just having trouble believing what was going on. Formatted the drive on my G5 tower, put it back in the second SATA slot for kicks, also upgraded the BIOS to F.13. Some combination of those (probably just the formatting on the mac) made everything work.

Now the only problem is that I'm getting the dastardly Code 10 on the Realtek card, so I don't know if it died along the way, or what. Thanks everybody for your help. If I can't get this swapped for another computer with a working ethernet card, I'll probably just move on to another system.

-/\/

 

I don't think anybody other than mnp2005 (who installed using a "standard PC") ever had IR drivers working...

-/\/

 

"I'll probably just move on to another system."
Can't afford this. Well, you bring good news. Here's my last remnants :

2 more things: When I partitioned the hard drive(#2)(with orig vista hd) I realized that the 4th partition where I put vista was not primary. I repartitioned the whole hard drive and it would not allow a primary on the 4th partition, only 3 primarys total. weird?
Also there must be a bios prob, otherwise why could I not boot into dos with ghost (pc stops at "press esc to enter startup"- and nothing happens). I don't use restore partitions etc, I wipe the drive and image with ghost. I hope this pc, when I get it back can boot into dos, I hope they haven't taken this away.

HP will have my pc tomorrow. Wow F13 already..I think I had 12...this hopefully is prob.

Good morning GDawon.

 

Well, I was just pointing out that I was going to return it. My time is still worth something, and at some point this deal on a 17" laptop is going to stop being a deal. I think you have that option available to you as well? But I suspect you got yours for the dual drive bays ...

Yes - I was able to install the F.13 BIOS update on the initial bootup of XP before it started having the intermittent problems. Repartitioning on another machine also seemed to help - I did both steps at the same time because I was running out of time by trying each thing individually. Definitely something weird going on w/ the BIOS and SATA drive handling...

-/\/

 

I've got to say, Hewlett Packard's support has been perfect for me. No dissapointments. It's just they have no control over engineering at this point. Yes dual disks are needed for live vsti soft synth use and overall recording.

 

moocha, yes, it's a problem with F.13 BIOS. As soon as I flashed it, no more boot devices for me either. Not even DVD. I tried several times, in the end it worked, but to be honest I have no idea why.

 

Right now, I try to find out why the heck after BIOS F.13 not only the previous MBR on my HDD was fubar, but now the fan is like 99% on noisy speed, although the CPU anf GPU temps are low, no CPU load, no GPU load. It's really weird.

 

So no one has a working IR remote under XP?

 

after BIOS F.13 not only the previous MBR on my HDD was fubar"
This is so weird its funny..well I'll see if you straighten out before I update

 

I recreated MBR, no problems, but it's stupid to have to do that. Right now I am extremely annoyed by the fact that Windows XP cannot detect when the CPU goes to C0 state(sleep mode, etc) and the fan is always on noisy mode.

joshua, honestly, I didn't even try the remote, it's the last of my concerns right now.

LE. Windows does detect CPU sleep/throttle, but the fan is still on high speed. New BIOS is fecked bad, they must have lowered the temps where the fan kicks in to less than 24C for the CPU and 47C for the GPU, which is absurd.

 

Hi,

IR remote control works for me but only with windows media player.
Drivers can be downloaded from the french forum (forum.hardware.fr) that was linked in one of the previous pages (I can't post the link since I haven't reached 15 posts...)

regards

 

hey i've been following this thread for a few days now. Problems i'm still having

I installed the sptd file but I don't know what to do after that, how do you boot into safe mode on a dv7t? I tried tapping f8 at the hp boot screen but it doesn't do anything, I used msconfig and selected safeboot but I don't see an option to hit esc to stop sptd. So i'm still getting 10 minute boot times. Can someone please explain this to me? How to get the computer to read my blue-ray drive and have a normal boot time

thank you in advance

EDIT... ok i got into safe mode, hit esc when it said to and the computer found my dvd drive, however when I restarted in normal mode it was gone again... any ideas?

EDIT 2: Ok now it works but still no sound. can someone assist with that?

EDIT 3: I spoke to soon, the quick boot and reading the dvd drive only worked once. How do I get it to stick?

 

For the sound problem there are like 100 answers. It freaking works if you install the proper drivers, it even works with the one from WindowsUpdate, so it's been done to death.


PS. Does anyone else have these in the Device Manager ? I didn't use to have them, I think they came up after the HDMI install, but not sure, maybe it was after the 180.43 nVIDIA drivers.

 

ya the problem is that idk where to place the IDT drivers. My device manager how nothings that says anything about IDT hardware or drivers.

In addition I have 5 other devices
3 base system devices
one multimedia device
and one usb device

does anyone know what these are?

And since I don't understand how to get sound, can someone explain it again?

 

USB device : web cam.
Multimedia : probably HDMI.. Like I said, done to death. Use the devcon trick if the IDT does not show up, it will show up and then install the drivers that have been linked here like 10 times already, or just go to Windows Update and it will install them by default. Usually if you install the drivers linked here they will restart the device by themselves.
Base system : probably the buttons. Also driver linked here.

 

You have to install a UAA first? Sorry ..which one is best. I don't need audio driver , I need to get firewire audio to work. UAA enables this or is it unnecessary? My laptop not's here but in shop now.

 

Ok making progress

sound now plays through subwoofer gonna keep looking through the thread

 

Now this is weird. I've been trying to get an OEM Vista Ultimate replacement I returned with the PC I sent back. The case manager didn't understand what I meant by "full" version of Vista and sent me restore disks. Well I just got this email back for HP tech who has my new PC. When I asked about getting OEM disk for my current PC, he writes:
"John, let me inform you that the disk Vista Ultimate OEM
would not be compatible with the current notebook.And the
recovery disks have to be created from the Recovery
Partition. "
This will obviously have to be studied. Does this mean that a retail will work and they are just not issuing OEMs now for this PC or does it mean OEM and retail don't work. I bet retail works, but he did say there was a compatability problem.

This could explain this "bios" problem

 

I can confirm retail version works, but on another note

I still have 3 "base system devices under unknown devices in device manager
and under scsi/raid driver I have A A9kb3k1b Ide controller any one know what that is and if it's related to the sptd trick not working?