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    Wprime Results on DV9700T

    Discussion in 'HP' started by rtrdogs, Feb 19, 2008.

  1. rtrdogs

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    Just running through some tests on my DV9700T before I do a clean Vista install. So it's straight out of the box with none of my programs or files on the system at all. I was also holding off on putting in my 2GB stick of RAM to go to 3GB until I did these tests were done but didn't know if that would make much (or any) difference in the results.

    I ran wprime and I've got 2 screens from the results.

    As you can see from the hwbot page, the results came back "very poor" compared to other T9300 processors. Since I'm a total noob when it comes to benchmarking, what exactly does this mean? Obviously, that's not good but does it mean there's something wrong with my processor or will this clear up with a fresh install?

    I wanted to make sure my components are okay and working normally before I do the clean install but I'm not sure what to make of these results since hwbot didn't like it too much.

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Yitzter

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    Hey, I see you got those programs I sent you. Good luck.

    About those scores. I don't know, looks weird. Try doing a clean install and then try it again.

    Or just try to run the test again. Make sure your on high performance.
     
  3. Awesome laptops

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    yeah did you do it on battery that could affect it
     
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    Hmm, I'm on AC power so that's not it.

    I shut it down and then decided to run the test again. Booted back up and the first and only thing I did was re-run wprime all by itself.

    My 32M results went from 33.804 to 32.144
    1024M results went from 1032.517 to 1024.207

    Should I go ahead and put the 2GB stick in to take it to 3GB and re-run?

    What exactly does this "very poor" score mean? Could this be related to the bloatware pre-installed? Do I have a bad component?

    Sorry for the questions. I'm just trying to go through the possibilities. I really don't want to have to send this one back but, of course, if something's not right with it physically it's a no-brainer.
     
  5. Yitzter

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    I don't think that it's a problem. Did you make sure that your on "High Performance"
     

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    Okay, that's weird! I ran it a third time (this time with power settings on High Performance), it got 87% done at 884.121 seconds, then displayed, "Cheat detected" on both threads and stopped running.

    That didn't happen with the other two tests I ran in wprime and I didn't do anything differently except change the power settings to High Performance. I wasn't even using the laptop or running any other programs. I ran the test right after it booted up. I guess I'll just have to do a clean install and see if these numbers go down.

    What kind of results in wprime should I be seeing with this system? I'm running Vista Home Premium, 3 GB RAM (will upgrade it from 2 tomorrow) and the rest of my specs are in my sig.
     
  7. jklman

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    just downloaded the program and ran it
    first one has 53.1sec and the second one 2103.3sec
    btw i've a T9300 with 8400GS
     
  8. Yitzter

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    I just ran it on my friends lappy with a T7500 and 4GB of ram.

    He got a 46.449 for the speed test, didn't do the stability test.

    It's alittle weird that you got 53.1 secs with a higher processor.

    I must also add, this is after a clean install.
     

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    Are the speed and stability test results from bloatware possibly? I'm just trying to figure out what could be causing these results.


    ETA: Okay, just went to hwbot to check out where exactly my results fell since it was "very poor" compared to the other T9300 results submitted. Well, I'm in the Top 100 -- I'm #3 OF 3! There aren't any more results submitted.

    I'm 1 minute behind the #1 spot's 1024M results. I'm 2 seconds behind the #1 spot's 32M results.

    I'm still not quite sure if these results are acceptable since there aren't any other T9300 wprime results to compare it to.
     
  10. Leo7

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    Yup, they 100% are, look here for a clean install T9300 result.

    Also make sure you tweak vista after the clean install using this guide.

    Bloatware is running processes in the background all the time and using your CPU while your running the wPrime test, so it can't give you an accurate result as it can't use your processor to the max.
     
  11. Leo7

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    Let me guess, you used wPrime version 1.60.

    I think it's buggy or something because when I run with that it more or less doubles the result I should be getting.

    The latest stable version is 1.55 I suggest you run that and you should get a real result

    http://www.wprime.net/download.html
     
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    Excellent! Thanks Leo!
     
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    New results running Orthos for 45 minutes (didn't have an hour to complete the test before I had to go) and HWmonitor watching the temps.

    Orthos ran without running into any errors and here's a screen showing the temps. Does this look okay before I proceed with the RAM upgrade and the clean install?
     
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    I'm wondering if that's why my wPrime scores were far below all the other scores for my CPU (which is a Core Duo T2600). I'd get about 67 seconds for the 32M test whereas other people were getting around 40 seconds or so, and now it doesn't even remember my last score! (It says "not tested"). I'll have to try 1.55 and see if that makes a difference.

    UPDATE: I just ran wPrime 1.55. I got 41.19 seconds, which is much better (and much closer to what most people with my CPU are getting). So I guess it is wPrime 1.60 that's causing all the problems.
     
  15. Yitzter

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    54C, wow that's amazing.you ran for 47 mins and stopped it or took it while it was running. but whatever the case is. 54C is a very good temp after running the proc for 45 mins.

    I didn't benchmark mine yet, but remember what I said about my friends t7500, his got hot, peaked at 72C after running orthos for an hour
     
  16. rtrdogs

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    Thanks for the clarification Yitzter! I took the screen grab right after I stopped Orthos after the 45 minute torture test. Just upgraded my RAM to 3GB and now on to the clean install. *gulp*
     
  17. Leo7

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    Penryns working wonders by the looks of it, I can't waaaaaait to get my hands on mine!! (Hurry up HP :D)

    Teraforce - version 1.60 of wPrime is confirmed to be not working correctly so yeah, just forget about it and it's whack results ;)
     
  18. Yitzter

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    Actually I just checked the version number that I gave you rtrdogs. and it's version 1.58 which I think is pretty stable, I will try and download the 1.55 version and see how it goes.
     
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    Yup 1.58 is fine, they just removed it from the downloads list and replaced it with 1.60 on the wPrime website :(
     
  20. Yitzter

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    1.55 is old I think.
     
  21. Leo7

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    According to wPrimes download list version 1.55 is the 'Latest Stable Build of wPrime..'
     
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    :(
    even with the stable version my scores stay pretty much the same...i even turned off the monitor/gadgets/reduced the # of processors to 65/turned off kaspersky

    am i doing something wrong here?
     
  23. Yitzter

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    What are your scores?
     
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    Hmmm, that is very very strange are you absolutely sure you used version 1.55 :wideeyed: . If you are sure then I suggest you do what I've quoted below :D (Clean install!)

    65 processes is excessively high, if you clean install and then tweak from the guide below you can easily get under 40 processes with your anti-virus installed. I currently have 36 running on this m1330 i'm using (it's not mine but I did tweak it a little :p) but I have gotten as low as 30 on other systems.

     
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    first one ~54s
    second one ~2000s
     
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    i should've done that before installing all those softwares :(...but now its double work for me...
     
  27. Leo7

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    Yeah it does suck, but you paid a lot of money (i'm guessing!) and your not getting anywhere near the performance you paid for.

    I'm sure you will be shocked at the speed after doing a clean install, I know I was the first time I fresh installed a system with loads of bloatware.
     
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    i guess i'l do it this weekend :D
    quick question: after clean installation, will i get internet connection or do i've manually install the wireless card drivers?
     
  29. Leo7

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    You will automatically get your internet connection, Vista installs drivers for the wireless card during it's installation.

    Just to make sure, you have some kind of vista dvd to do the re-install right? (since HP don't ship a copy with the system anymore)
     
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    i've the recovery discs which i made right away after turning this on
    i also have a recovery disc for my old laptop (this one is directly from HP..its also vista premium) do you think it will work?
     
  31. Leo7

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    Unfortunately recovery discs just restore the system back to how it was when you first turned it on, out of the box (all the bloatware).

    You can buy a windows anytime upgrade disc from microsoft:

    http://www.windowsanytimeupgrade.com/disc

    I've done it myself, you can then use it to re-install your current OS.

    This thread here will help you with the clean install
     
  32. rtrdogs

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    jklman, I just did a clean install last night using Orev's guide (look for the sticky in this HP forum).

    I was amazed at how easy it was. I got my upgrade disk from CompUSA's Web site but the product page isn't there anymore so I'm guessing they don't sell it anymore.

    Anyway, it took about an hour or so to get the clean install done (just the OS) and I'm going to go through the drivers this afternoon to get everything the way it needs to be before I run wprime again.

    I am definitely, definitely not a tech savvy person. I've never run things like wprime or done an OS install. I simply can't believe how easy the clean install was and how easy it has been to install the drivers that I've done so far.

    If you do it, good luck. It's not as overwhelming as it may sound. I know I spent the past month turning blue just thinking about having to do the clean install!
     
  33. Yitzter

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    Good for you man, you've joined the ranks of the clean installers! lol
     
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    I would like to do a clean install and my friend has a windows premium disk, but I'm concerned because my friend also gave me one of his licenses to MS Office, which I've already activated. Will I accidentally use another of his licenses if I re-use that KEY after a clean install???

    As you know, Microsoft gives you one KEY for 3 licenses, so you never know until you use the last one I guess.
     
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    Just an update...My results are worse after the clean install and I'm not sure why!

    I did the clean install, installed the updated drivers and don't have any of my programs installed at all.

    My 32M benchmark came in at 72.47 on power saver when it was 32.144 on power saver before the clean install.

    On High Performance the 32M came in at 31.764. Before the clean install it never made it through the test because it quit at 88%.

    My 1024M was 1032.57 before the clean install. Now it's 1067.707.

    I'm on AC power so it's definitely not a battery power issue. What do you think is going on?
     
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    i did the clean install yesterday and i'm really glad, i did that
    thank guys
    i've attached the wprime results on the hardware thread
    mine was like ~30sec and ~970sec after clean installation :)
     
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    if you are using the version 1.55,incase you haven't done this yet> go to advanced options and manually enter 2 cores instead of the default value (which is 1)
    also try to run this with the aero turned off
     
  38. rtrdogs

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    It's crazy. I used the exact same version and settings as before. Could this be a bad driver installed causing this? I don't even have one personal file or program on this at all. I'm baffled!
     
  39. Yitzter

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    @rtrdogs, Did you do what jklman said to do?
     
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    Yes I did. Sorry I wasn't clear.
     
  41. Leo7

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    What version of wPrime are you using?

    Try version 1.55 from http://www.wprime.net/download.html
     
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    Just wanted to post an update.

    I couldn't find out what exactly was causing this problem so I did another clean install and benchmarked along the way. I used wprime v. 1.58.

    Fresh after the clean install with no drivers installed:

    30.996 32M
    990.475 1024M

    I had already installed the necessary drivers from the SWSetup folder before I read I could bypass that and go straight for HP's site. So this time, I went straight to the HP site and installed the drivers instead of using the SWSetup folder. I also used the latest NVIDIA driver from laptopvideo2go. After all that was installed I ran wprime and got:

    31.196 32M
    997.324 1024M

    As an experiment, I rolled the system back to before the NVIDIA driver from LV2Go was installed and installed the one from the HP site:

    31.076 32M

    After following the Vista tweaks thread, ran it again and got:

    31.073 32M

    After Windows installed all of its updates (45 of them), I got:

    31.294 32M
    995.953 1024M

    My out of the box results were:
    33.804 32M
    1032.517 1024M

    How's this look to everyone?
     
  43. Yitzter

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    It looks fine. It's around 30secs, which is pretty decent. I'm trying to understand what you are trying to figure out. Stability? if you ran orthos for an hour and no system crashes, then your CPU is working just fine.

    Every CPU will yield different results. it's like undervolting, some will work better then others.

    Let it rest. It seems your laptop is doing just fine.
     
  44. rtrdogs

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    No it wasn't that I was worried about stability or speed after Orthos... it's just that when I did the clean install the first time I was getting 72.47 on 32M, more than double what it was with bloatware out of the box!

    So I monitored it every step of the way on the second install to see if I could pinpoint what happened and to also be able to find where it went wrong so I could avoid that and avoid having too do a third clean install if it happened again along the way.

    I mean, it was around 30 seconds with bloatware and then on a clean install jumped to 72.47 so something definitely went wrong somewhere. I just didn't want to have to do yet another clean install because I went through installing all the drivers, tweaking Vista, etc., etc. without keeping an eye on it only to find my time had more than doubled again like it did after the first clean install.
     
  45. Yitzter

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    I see what your saying. I'm kinda stumped, I mean it's very weird that your experiencing this problem AFTER the clean install. Try doing a system restore to first point. See how that goes.

    Other then that, the only thing I can think of, is the tweaking. Sometimes it causes more trouble then helping out. Especially if you do what everyone else does without really knowing what your tweaking.

    Honestly, I don't really do any tweaking and my system is running better then ever. I did disable the pagefile though but that's about it.

    Like I said, the only logical explanation for your problem, is probably tweaking gone bad.

    Did you try a system restore yet?
     
  46. rtrdogs

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    Oh sorry if I wasn't clear. It's getting great numbers after the second clean install. None of that 72 second stuff. I didn't even get to Vista tweaks before that high time showed up on the first clean install. This time it's running great and I made it through all the Vista tweaks too and it's still zooming.

    The only thing I'm wondering about now is why I'm feeling some heat on the side where my left wrist sits. I guess it's the hard drive but all I've got is this window open. HD light is off so I'm not sure what that's about. It's cool to the touch everywhere else but I guess I'm getting off topic here!
     
  47. Yitzter

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    I have the same problem. It's the HD spinning and getting hot, thats all.