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    Your DV7t temperatures?

    Discussion in 'HP' started by legato, Aug 19, 2008.

  1. legato

    legato Notebook Geek

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    I'm using "CPUID HARDWARE MONITOR" to track my temperatures.

    Mine currently:

    1. ACPI -->THRM: 46 C
    2a. INTEL MOBILE C2D --> CORE #0: 45 C
    2b. INTEL MOBILE C2D --> CORE #1: 42 C
    3. GeFORCE 9600M GT --> GPU CORE: 51 C
    4. HDD: 42 C


    1 browser with 5 tabs open
    winamp playing
    1 excel file
     
  2. charonill

    charonill Notebook Consultant

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    I have about the same running HWMonitor. How did you get the HDD temp to show? Right now all I see are the ACPI, the processor cores, and my GPU temp.
     
  3. Infamous22

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    I think there are multiple versions of the HWMONITOR.
     
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    I have dv2700t, NOT Dv7t, but I will post just to show comparisons...

    Right now...I am just web browsing and I have these temps:

    ACPI Temps are 48C-50C
    Core 0: 43-44C
    Core 1: 46-48C
    GPU Core (8400M GS): 54-58C (It goes up to 61C-62C when watching videos)
    HDD: 46C-50C (I have seen it at 52C when just doing basic tasks...)

    Laptop feels rather cool though, just a little warm above left palm rest (HDD)

    I was really worried about GPU temps when I was trying the SIMS 2 Demo and after 40-60min the GPU hit 81C (laptop was very hot above the power button) and after I closed the game it said the GPU has shutdown or something?.... I haven't played a game since...
     
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    What is the preferred temp monitoring software/freeware?
     
  6. timesquaredesi

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    :eek: that sucks! =(

    i wonder if hp can/could/would go so far as to provide dv7t owners like an 'operating temprature' so we can compare it against what our machines are currently running... if problems like this occur, i am sure as hell there is a mistake somewhere in terms of cooling/etc.

    when you spec a machine this high, the last thing i would expect is heat issues!@#!@# =(

    do you think it's worth it to call them / their support and ask if this is expected or to see what they can do abt it?
     
  7. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

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    Use HWMonitor to check your notebook temps.

    Operating temps should be in the following range:

    CPU idle: 40-45c
    CPU Load: 65-85c

    CPU will thermally downclock around 95c and shut off at 105c

    GPU idle: 45-55c
    GPU load 75-85c

    and HDD not to exceed 55c. The cooler the better.

    When i mean load, i mean the temps on a full stress test.
     
  8. legato

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    I'm using version 1.10.0
     
  9. Cobraman10176

    Cobraman10176 Notebook Geek

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    Just wondered if anyone with the 9200M GS or even you guys with the 512 card had noticed when using a moving wallpaper in Vista Ultimate or the aurora wallpaper makes your GPU Temps shoot up, I've got 1 going now, and it says my temps on GPU are topping out around 78 C under Hardware monitor, everything else is well within normal range an increase of about 5 to 7 C on other readings, now this is with the laptop on a cooler, and a week or so old install of Artic Silver5, Should I be worried?
     
  10. Euphamism

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    I have the dv7z, which is the AMD sibling of the dv7t. For comparison's purposes, as to the best of my knowledge these two systems have the same case design but different hardware, here are my temps:

    Thermal Zone - 42C
    CPU Core #0 - 50C
    CPU Core #1 - 49C

    My HDD and GPU are not recognized by the HWMonitor, so I'm unable to post those. No clue what they are.

    I'm currently running one Firefox window with 8 tabs, Rainmeter, ObjectDock, HWMonitor, and Trillian (with only AIM signed in and only one chat window open). I have WMP open in the background but turned off as well as one folder open in the taskbar - my documents folder.
     
  11. Cobraman10176

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    If you run HW Monitor 1.11.0 it should give you all your temps
     
  12. Cobraman10176

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    Anyone? Anyone at all?
     
  13. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

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    Whats your gpu max temps?

    and how is hard is your fans running?
     
  14. timesquaredesi

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    cobra commander (lol) --

    my 1st dv7t showed the harddrive temp too, running 1.10 version of CPUID hardware monitor. for some reason that one showed the hard drive temp, but now on my new dv7t, running the same version of the software, it does not show the hard drive. i just downloaded version 1.11 which was released within the week and it too shows only my ACPI, crore 1+2 and gpu temps. no hard drive temp.

    that's odd but anyway,.... i think it's dependant on the hard drive. my 1st hard drive was a toshiba, the one in my unit now is a fujitsu.


    this is a pic of my temps after having my machine on for about 15 minutes. i am just using IE and word at this time.

    [​IMG]


    my gpu has gone to 71C or 72C (when playing unreal 3) and never higher. the fan is on high at that time - not as high as it is when the machine turns on - but definitely strong.

    the gpu temp is always the higher of all the temps in my case. also note that i have the rear of my notebok elevated 1 inch so air can go under it.

    my ACPI and core 1 and 2 temps are always around 100F, or 37/38C.
     
  15. RealtorKen

    RealtorKen Notebook Consultant

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    Heres my text file...
     
  16. Cobraman10176

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    GPU Temps Max after 30 minutes of Need For Speed Hot Pursuit2 97 C 206 F with a cooler underneath, and Artic Silver 5 Applied.

    Other temps
    Thrm 32C
    CPU 0 45 C
    CPU 1 46 C
    GPU 97 C 206F!!!!!!???? ***
    HDD1 31C
    HDD2 32C
     
  17. Samiur

    Samiur Notebook Enthusiast

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    I just downloaded it and it doesn't show the HDD temps for my DV7 either....


    CPUID Hardware Monitor 1.1.1.0
    -----------------------------------------------------

    Mainboard Vendor Compal
    Mainboard Model 30F4 (0xDD - 0x2320)


    Hardware monitor
    -----------------------------------------------------

    ACPI hardware monitor

    Temperature sensor 0 42°C (107°F) [0xC50] (THRM)

    Dump hardware monitor



    Hardware monitor
    -----------------------------------------------------

    Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo P8400 hardware monitor

    Temperature sensor 0 32°C (89°F) [0x44] (Core #0)
    Temperature sensor 1 30°C (86°F) [0x46] (Core #1)

    Dump hardware monitor



    Hardware monitor
    -----------------------------------------------------

    GeForce 9600M GT hardware monitor

    Temperature sensor 0 45°C (113°F) [0x2D] (GPU Core)

    Dump hardware monitor


    Processors Map
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Number of processors 1
    Number of threads 2

    Processor 0
    -- Core 0
    -- Thread 0
    -- Core 1
    -- Thread 0


    Processors Information
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Processor 1 (ID = 0)
    Number of cores 2 (max 2)
    Number of threads 2 (max 2)
    Name Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo P8400
    Codename Penryn
    Specification Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8400 @ 2.26GHz
    Package Socket P (478) (platform ID = 7h)
    CPUID 6.7.6
    Extended CPUID 6.17
    Core Stepping M0
    Technology 45 nm
    Core Speed 1596.0 MHz (6.0 x 266.0 MHz)
    Rated Bus speed 1064.0 MHz
    Stock frequency 2266 MHz
    Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, EM64T
    L1 Data cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
    L1 Instruction cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
    L2 cache 3072 KBytes, 12-way set associative, 64-byte line size
    FID/VID Control yes
    FID range 6.0x - 8.5x
    max VID 1.238 V
    Features XD, VT
     
  18. Pranalien

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    HP's current line of Pavilion notebooks suck in terms of temp. detection. Very few models support Hard disk temp detection. Moreover when it is running on battery ,the time remaining is never displayed. It is really sorry that they are not able to provide any fixes for these bugs .
     
  19. Cobraman10176

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    Guess noone can help me....
     
  20. timesquaredesi

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    cobra - dude, looks like your machine can replace your stove.

    i would contact HP - there is mention of a fix for the dv5t which makes the fan stay on longer and at a higher rpm to alleviate some of the heat. i would contact them asap and find out.

    until then, no gaming, seriously.
     
  21. Cobraman10176

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    Spent 2 hours on the phone with HP tonight, according to them the temps must be within specs or it would shut down, I find that hard to believe, that a GPU should run that hot, either way I'm stumped, also got a long lecture about how HP will not be supplying drivers for XP b/c it is a dead OS, lame, but what can you do?
     
  22. RealtorKen

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    Wait...your using XP Cobra Commander?
     
  23. Cobraman10176

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    No....I asked about drivers
     
  24. kevinf

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    yeah for some reason they don't put temp seonsors in the fujitsu hard drives
     
  25. Cobraman10176

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    *Bump*

    Ok, like I said before 96 C on GPU while gaming, odd thing is that's the max it gets, funny though, when I first exit a game it still shows that as the max, however when it shows current temp at around 78-79 C could it be it gets that hot with alot of cars on screen or something but cools off as gameplay goes on? Fan does spool up and run as it should, and other temps are well within range, wish there was a program that could run with the game, where you could monitor temps real time, any ideas someone please lemme know. As I said HP doesn't seem concerned at all.
     
  26. Infamous22

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    My computer is freezing. Use dry ice as a cooler for your notebook and you won't ever have to worry about heating. Once in a while frost builds up on the screen.

    [​IMG]
     
  27. Cobraman10176

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    HAHA That's pretty funny, however I like my laptop
     
  28. charonill

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    I wouldn't be too worried about that 96C figure. I've gotten 97C a few times while playing crysis. The thing is the avg temp is always around the mid 70's to lower 80's and I've quit out to the desktop via the windows key a few times to check and usually the temp hover around 70-80. I also notice when you enter the menu of any game the temperature would start to drop immediately, so it only gets toasty when playing very intensive games during actual intensive sequences. Since I've moved to my cool 70F dorm in college I have yet to see that 97c figure, I only ever saw it when I was at home (80F at coolest). In addition to lifting the back of the laptop as it has been commonly recommended, I also removed the battery, which probably helps to cool the innards a bit.
     
  29. K-TRON

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    Are you serious, you put dry ice on your laptop. That is a really bad idea. The ice will cause the air to crystalize and condense and will cause premature laptop failure. Its definitely not a good move, I hope you are making that story up. Heck it looks like you just threw a negative sign infront of the actual values.

    It looks like another laptop with a lousy cooling system. That cpu uses barely any power, and runs really hot. My Opteron uses nearly 100 watts more power and runs much cooler at load than yours do at idle. This is why I do not buy from Hp, cause they code their bios to set the fans to come on too late, and they use inadequate cooling systems. Heat can damage your system, and in cobra's situation his graphics card will burn out soon cause of that excessive heat. 80C really should be the maximum you should let your system get.
    I panic if my system were to break 50C, and luckily it doesnt even under full load.

    Time to get a laptop cooler or try propping it up to bring those temperatures down

    K-TRON
     
  30. dkwhite

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    I'd have to agree, anything over 80c is going to cause premature failure on the graphics card over a period of time.
     
  31. Cobraman10176

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    Ok, here's something intresting, underhardware monitor it says my CPU Temps are

    CPU 0 39 C
    CPU 1 35C


    And yet under speedfan

    CPU 0 28C
    CPU 1 25C

    10 Degrees Difference on each core running both programs polling at the same time.....hrm seems kinda odd to me, wonder if HW Monitor might not be able to read the new chips, or if it's speedfan that's wrong? Have to say when it says my GPU is the 96C I can still touch the top and the bottom of the laptop, it's warm, but not as hot as I would expect for those types of temps, and you would think at almost 200 Degrees Farenheit the laptop would be throwing error codes, Lagging, and shutting down.
     
  32. Cobraman10176

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    Update, Double checked with Coretemp, and it's got the same readings as Speedfan, what do you guys think?
     
  33. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    core temp is usually an accurate program.
    Also, try downloading cpu rightmark clock management. In the monitoring tab it will show the temperature for the cpu core.
    If three programs state the same temperature, I would say that the temperature is pretty accurate.

    For the graphics card, I believe your laptop has the nVidia card. Download rivatuner, and follow gophn's guide and see what it tells you for the temperature. Hopefully hw monitor was reading your gpu temp wrong. If riva tuner also picks up near 200C than either call hp and tell them their must be something wrong, or get a really good laptop cooler.

    K-TRON
     
  34. Cobraman10176

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    Confusing CPU Right mark Matches Hardware monitor, and Everest ultimate matches both of them, yet I get the lower temps out of Speedfan, and Coretemp, Very hard which 1 to go with, and Rivatuner won't show GPU Temps with the DV7t I've tried all of gophn's steps, funny that after 2 hours on the phone with HP yet again, their still not concerned with temps, but as I said, I would think with temps that close to 200 it would be very close to burning when touched, and a large amount of heat output.
     
  35. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    I would trust rightmark over speedfan and core temp. I say this cause your core temp values are much too low. They could only be acheived if your room was cold, or the fan was on full.

    cobra, what does hwmonitor read your graphics temperature at startup. Let the system cool down before doing so.
    If the gpu temp is over 70C by the time it starts up, I would say that hnwmonitor is reading your temperatures wrong.

    Is your laptop extremely hot anywhere?
    Feel around your keyboard and on the bottom of the system. If you feel any part excessively hot than maybe it is getting to 200F.

    Try another version of rivatuner if you are not getting temperature readings. Download it from guruof 3d, their versions seem to work really good.

    K-TRON
     
  36. likearocket

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    A quick question, how are people elevating the rear of this thing? What are you using? :confused:
     
  37. Cobraman10176

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    K-Tron it varies between 62c and 73c on startup, ambient room temp right now and on average of this room is 77-80 degrees Farenheit, any advice could and would be appreciated, it gets a lil warm, but not too hot to the point of burning etc. and keep in mind I did have Artic silver applied to my setup, GPU, CPU, and Chipset.
     
  38. charonill

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    I just got 3 70pg spiral notebooks and stacked them up. Btw, the battery is the same length as a notebook, so I removed the battery and proped the laptop up on the notebooks.
     
  39. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    no, dont use spiral notebooks, no good. You need something smaller. The books will block all of the air from getting into your vents. I permanently affixes large rubber grommets to mine, with an asphalt based adhesive. The grommets are designed to cut vibration on 12-24horsepower engines.
    You can use something smaller like post its, small blocks or something like that. Just make sure that what you use to prop it up doesnt block or cover any of the vents, cause it will cause adverse effects.

    Cobra, did you put arctic silver on, or did hp put it on?
    I am asking because those temperatures are way too hot for startup. I have seen much more powerful graphics cards run around 45C at startup.
    If you applied arctic silver yourself to the gpu, did you remove any thermal pads?
    The thermal pads are installed so that the heatsink sits square and flush to the gpu core and memory chips. Arctic silver is thinner than pads, so if pads were replaced with arctic silver than the gpu core may not be touching the heatsink. That could explain why yours is running way hotter than everyone elses.

    Cobra, feel the base of your laptop after say an hour of gaming, if it is burning hot than the temperatures are reading correctly, if its doesnt feel extremely hot, than most likely hwmonitor is reading your temperatures wrong.

    I know a guy at HP, I will ask him what the temps of the dv7t should be.

    K-TRON
     
  40. Cobraman10176

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    Sorry K-Tron I misunderstood, I thought you meant on boot up temp, now that it's just been on idling on the desktop, with me just browsing the site here for the last 30 min or so, my current temp is 48 C, showing a high of 66 C from booting up.
     
  41. Cobraman10176

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    Ok, now I am totally lost, Rightmark, Speedfan, Core temp all reading the same, and Hardware Monitor, and NHC are reading the same, ideas? So basicly 3 programs say my processor and mainboard are running very cool, and 2 are saying high 40's
     
  42. K-TRON

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    Is that temperature for your cpu or gpu?

    If the cpu is running between 30 and 70C you are safe.
    Usually graphics cards can go up to 90C, but it becomes very dangerous. Running at more than 70C for extended periods will cause parts to melt down.
    What is the maximum temperature of your graphics card now?

    K-TRON
     
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    skimming thru some temps in this thread.....man, i gotta be the coolest running xps m1730 :)

    core1 36C
    core2 36C

    GPU1 53C
    GPU2 53C
     
  44. Cobraman10176

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    As of right now it says
    Hardware Monitor
    CPU 0 36 C
    CPU 1 33C
    GPU 49 C Maxxed out at 62



    Right Mark says:
    CPU 0 19.2 C
    CPU 1 18.0 C

    Core Temp
    CPU 0 20 C
    CPU 1 19 C


    Speed Fan
    Core 0 24 C
    Core 1 22 C
     
  45. K-TRON

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    rightmark, core temp and speedfan must be wrong. Your cpu is running at around 68F, which is impossible, cause it cannot be running cooler than room temperature. You mentioned room temp is around 70-80F, so that would mean your cpu should be idling around 110F or so. Still HW monitor is reading pretty low temperatures too. I would think your cpu would run hotter than 100F at idle, but yours is still running under 100F.

    Your gpu is running normal, at those temperatures.

    What did you do to make it read 200F before?

    K-TRON
     
  46. Cobraman10176

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    Well you also have to remember a cooler underneath, artic silver 5 applied, and tonight it's 74 in here, with the A/C running currently, and to get the temps up I was running Need For Speed Hot Pursuit 2, at pretty much maxxed out settings 1200 x 800 resoloution, and all details set to full.
     
  47. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    Still, even without a laptop cooler, it shouldnt break 200F. Well take care of the thing and keep an eye out on those temps.

    K-TRON
     
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    PM Sent K-Tron