ZE2000t vs V2000z-another comparisson

I've been reading for a while the threads here and noticed that V2000z is a quite popular and consequently a quite discussed notebook. I myself am wondering whether to buy the compaq or ze2000t pavillion but the dilema here is really about Turion ML-37 2.0/1mb l2 cache or Pentium M 750 (1.86 GHz). I could not find a post about the ze2000t so, please, if you have one or just happen to know, try to make my choice easier . 10x

ze2000t:
Intel(R) Pentium(R) M Processor 750 (1.86 GHz)
15.0" TFT XGA BrightView 1024x768
Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator 900
512MB DDR SDRAM (1x512MB)
60 GB 4200 RPM Hard Drive
DVD+/-RW/R & CD-RW Combo w/Double Layer Support
Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG & Bluetooth(TM)
6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery

V2000z:
AMD Turion(TM) 64 ML-37 (2.0GHz/1MB L2 Cache)
14.0 WXGA BrightView Widescreen (1280x768)
ATI RADEON(R) XPRESS 200M w/productivity ports
512MB DDR SDRAM (1x512MB
60 GB 5400 RPM Hard Drive
DVD+/-RW/R & CD-RW Combo w/Double Layer Support
54g(TM) Integ. Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN & Bluetooth
6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery

 

There was a review here on the website comparing the V2000Z, L2000 and V2335us. The first two had the Turion ML-37 and the V2335us had the 1.86 Pentium M. According to the reviewer, the Pentium M was faster in most benchmarks than the Turion. It also got significantly better battery life as well. Although I don't like the Ze2000 because it having no widescreen. The V2000Z will do better in games than the Ze2000 but its still not a gaming notebook.

 

Thanks
hm, I don't need it for gaming, though that would definately be a nice thing do to.
Will I be right to say that the v2000x is more portable, even with a 12 cell battery? Some say it /the 12 cell battery/ protrudes ugly from the bottom, while others say it gives a comfortable typing slope. So with or without the heavier battery?

 

The 12 cell battery lifts the back of the notebook slightly, giving you an angle which makes typing easier but I wish it could just stick out the back. It'll give you great battery life, about 5 hours on the V2000Z and 7 on the Ze2000.

 

get the Pentium M if you only want to use it for a few years; Get the turion if you want to run the 64 bit version of the next windows vista and want a decent video card that at least can run most games.

 

If the Pentium M is only 32-bit and is not supposed to support the new Windows,why is it so dominant on the market? I gues, then, many people will have to buy new notebooks as Vista comes out next year and the software gets more specalized. That's what they call customer orientation, yup.
thanks for the advice!

 

There'll be two versions of Windows Vista, 32 and 64 bit.

 

I have both of these laptops. they are both very good, esp. for the price.

The ZE2000 is bigger and heavier than the V2000. The extended battery add some weight, but it is well worth it. It can easily go a 8 hour workday if you use some power mgmt and suspend or hibernate when you got to meetings, lunch, etc.

The main advantage of the V2000 is:

- Smaller size and weight
- Widescreen, which is nice for DVDs
- AMD Turion 64 bit chip, which means it will work with the 64 bit version of Windows/Vista. You won't need to buy another laptop as soon.
- The ATI 200M video card is better than the Intel 900 that is in the ZE2000

Whichever you pick, they both perform well.

 

I saw that review. Looks like the those test are with old bios for V2000z and L2000 which are running at DDR266 speeds instead DDR333(current bios) or better yet with DDR400 support(Current bios). (Pentium M boards bios are already matured) I had dilemma about V2000 vs V2000z and finally bought V2000z and really like it.

Somehow his super PI values are slower than mine with same processor(DDR333 factor?) even after complete SP2 updates.

Battery life wise I am getting 3:00 hours browsing, text editing, downloading etc. Pentium M would have given me I think 30 min more. But I am getting 64bit processor( future proof) and faster processor for same price.

And I also think 14" wide screen is very good balance( 12.1 WXGA is too small, 15", 15.4" make laptop unncessary bigger).
DVD really look good with BrightView( My previous Toshiba laptop has 15.4" wide screen).

 

I have a v2000 with 2GB RAM have VMWARE WS5 and also run Red Hat Enterprise, Windows 2003 Server and XP Pro, all at the same time. I use my Turion laptop to protype things I want to do in production. With VMWARE WS5.5 Beta I can install it on XP-64 bit and run Linux 64bit, XP and 2003 64 bit and Vista 64 beta on this laptop. When things let up in at work I'm changing over. I have never had a lockup or crash. The video performance for both laptops are horrible.

I did not buy the extended battery and wish I did.

 

the 200m video card in the 2000z is so much better than the intel 900 integrated one. there are many compatability issue with the intel cards, while the 200m works with all games.

 

So how good is the 200M anyway? I haven't tried any games on my notebook, but I'm thinking about buying Tiger Woods 2006 and installing it. I noticed that the 2005 version sometimes lags ever so slightly with my vanilla 6800 on my desktop.

 

I quite sure now I will order v2000z. Yet, about the graphics cards. how can I distinguish between 128MB ATI RADEON(R) XPRESS 200M w/Hypermemory(TM) and ATI RADEON(R) XPRESS 200M w/productivity ports /this one comes with the V2000z/. I'm asking because I am pretty sure i ordered the former for my zv6000 /it has 128 mb dedicated memory/ and still in the device manager it says - ATI Mobility RADEON Xpress 200 series. I'm not sure if I really have the 128 mb dedicated video memory. What should I look for?
I'll be interested to see what the difference between the two cards is when I get the v2000.
thanks for all the opinions

 

Probably the version you had in ZV6000 has dedicated memory, thought chipset is same(200M) it can have dedicated memory or it can share the main system memory. Dedicated is always good as it is much faster than Main memory and also it has dedicated band width.

in the case of V2000z, I do not think there is any difference between one with Productivity ports and the one without. It is shared memory in both cases. You can change memory from 32MB to 128MB in bios.( I think it is same for versions as bios is same). But you get firewire, one more usb and card reader. I think( I am not sure) Expansion port 2 is also comes only with W/productivity ports option.

The advantage with this one is , you can use it with Expansion base or you can just by Media cable from HP
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/product_detail.do?product_code=PH675A

It has digital audio out, Svideo, RCA video, analog audio out, and firewire, usb ports and also comes with HP remote. But again remote may not work for V2000z model as it does not has bult in IR ( I think). But it should work if you have one of those USB IR receivers( I have one).

The performance of video card is okay. It is definitely much better than intel integrated, no where near topend discrete cards. I can safely say this is as powerful as ATI Radeon 7500 card with 32MB, or something like GeForce4 go Mx440 series.

As far as games are concerned I am not sure as I am not a gamer. But I did play UT2004 at full resolution 1280x768@32 bit without any problems(no frame rate problem).

Check this thread for 3DMark score. That will give you a ball park idea.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=25923

Anyways, best of luck with your purchase!

 

To come full circle with this thread, let me tell of my purchase. Suddenly, I became time pressed and instead of going to Hp shopping, went to www.ecost.com. The HP blow out there could be really ruinous for my account . Anyways, I was ready to make a compromize and take 1.8 Ghz, 1mb l2 cache, instead of the 2.0 GHz Turion because I need the notebook by Friday. I found the perfect L2000 there /I read the comparison between L2000, V2000z and V2???us and decided that the 'ugly yellow stripes' are not too bad/ with 1.8 GHz, 1mb L2 Cache, 80 GB 5400... pure luck I thought and I ordered it.
An hour later, however, I showed the configuration to a friend and noticed that in the description of the notebook, it read ML-30 AMD Turion. Well, am I wrong or there is no ML-30 Turion clocked at 1.8 GHz with 1mb L2 cache!!! Can anyone help me make sense out of this? Was there a serious mistake in the Ecost webpage or is it possible to have ML-30 at 1.8 ghz? I still haven't recieved the notebook, althogh it said "same day shipping". Any ideas?

 

First, HP L2000 and Compaq V2000z are essenetially same laptops, other than color, graphics and keyboard difference. Ofcourse by default L2000 is offered with 5400RPM drive.

And about ML-30, it is probably typo error on ecost website. They hardly ever give any information( Their customer service sucks). There is no ML-30 with 1.8GHz. Check AMD website for details.

Check this URL:
http://www.mobilityguru.com/2005/08/30/the_turion_64_inside_story/page4.html

ML-28 1600MHz 512KB cache 32watts
ML-30 1600MHz 1MB cache 32 watts
ML-32 1800MHz 512KB cache 34watts
ML-34 1800MHz 1MB cache 34 watts
ML-37 2000Mhz 1MB Cahce 35 watts

And for power consumption figures check this one
http://www.mobilityguru.com/2005/08/30/the_turion_64_inside_story/page5.html

Anyways, you will be happy with either model. But the battery life would be better if you upgrade processor as they consume less power in intermediate step.

 

Thanks for the links. That was my information, too, so now I'm hoping they have made a mistake in the "ML-30" thing and not in the Ghz. It will probably arrive in the morning.

 

Let us know what you got! and may be a mini review!?

 

I finally had some time to play around with my new L2005, ML-34. Chinna_n you were correct, ML-30 was a typo, fortunately, and I got the better ML-34. I just flashed the F.06 bios with the newer F.11 and the RAM jumped from 133 mhz to 159mhz. I hope I'll be able to reach 166 once I upgrade the notebook with a stick of 1 gb of memory. So far I'm very very happy with the notebook. Thanks for all the opinions and suggestions . I will post my undervolting results in "Undervolting the AMD Turion 64 ML-34 processor (L2000)" http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=20249&page=6&pp=10 so that to keep the consistency of the thread. see you there.