dv1000 vs L2000

I'm seriously torn between these two computers. I really like the looks and features of the dv1000 line yet I'm curious about the soon to be released L2000. What advantages do you feel the L2000 will have especially in light of the recent upgrades on the dv1000 line. I'm not into gaming on a laptop just music, internet, pics, etc. I guess basically which do you think gives the most bang for the buck and will the L2000 make the dv1000 extinct? Thanks in advance...

 

The L2000 is 64-bit capable, has the NX "No eXecute" bit (virus/worm protection), a better GPU, better wireless networking, costs less (no Intel marketing tax)... basically, get the L2000.

I'm sure Intel will keep making their comarketing payments to HP so I wouldn't worry about the dv1000.

 

I've noticed on the AMD you can't upgrade the HD speed like you can on the dv1000 but just how big of a differance is that with just normal usage i.e internet, music, photos, etc... In addition do you expect the speakers between the two to be comperable?

 

Or you could also look into the Compaq twin of the L2000 - the V2000Z...

http://www.costco.com/CTO/HPConfigurator.aspx?Prodid=10029572&whse=BC&topnav=&cat=4333&hierPath=84*4333*&model=PV898AV

You can probably upgrade the HD to 5400rpm on the L2000, full customization is not available yet. It is supposed to be available on the 22nd.

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I believe that the ze & v2000z are twins...the L2000, like Miner stated will not be lacking upgrade options like the current T64 offerings (i.e.-widescreen, 5400RPM hard disk)

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<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by AMDemon

 

Ohhh....Interesting find Miner[8D], I had NO idea that the v2000z existed since HpShopping doesn't feature it yet. Thanks!!

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LG DVD Writer w/DL
54(g)Broadcom Integ.Wireless w/Speedbooster & Bluetooth
12cell

 

I'm really not so sure I'd be completely gung-ho about the Turion offerings just yet. I agree that the integrated graphics are quite a bit better, but you may find that you get worse battery life out of the Turion chips/chipset. It's hard to say because there really hasn't been a whole lot of information about about the performance and battery life of the Turion platform. However, from what I read, it's a bit slower and has somewhat worse battery life.

Another thing you should consider is that it seems HP is currently using the ML series or Turion processors, which dissipate a 35 watt max instead of the MT series which is 25. The Pentium M dissipates 27 watts max. I'm not sure, however, what they will put in the v2000z and L2000. Also, I really haven't heard anything about the Broadcom wireless chipset being any better than the Intel solution, but you can buy that chip for the same price on the Pentium M machine as well, so it's not really an advantage for the Turion.

Don't get me wrong, at this point AMD is far ahead of Intel on the desktop, but I'm taking a wait and see attitude towards whether or not the Turion will be able to beat Centrino.

 

Here. check out the review of the V2000 with the Turion processor. It gets significantly worse battery life than the Pentium M version of this computer. This processor doesn't look that great to me so far. They only got 2 hours 29 minutes of battery life whereas with Pentium M processor, the reviwers got 3 hours 36 minutes.

Review of V2000 with Turion
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1825173,00.asp

Review of V2000 with Pentium M
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1726182,00.asp

 

There's something weird about the PCMag review. They get 2:29 for the 6 cell battery but 5:32 with the 12 cell. Well over twice the battery life. They did note that the 6 cell in the V2000 has less capacity than the 6 cell in the Intel notebook, but still. Also, the PCMag review raves about the dv4000's "multimedia" capabilities yet its shared memory Intel GPU is dramatically weaker than the ATI GPU in the Turion notebooks (532 vs. 163 on 3DMark05 and 6.8 vs. 3.9 FPS on Doom 3). There's not enough detail in the reviews to explain the discrepancies. I would discount the results from the heavily biased BAPCo Sysmark 2004 benchmarks (BAPCo started out in an Intel office building).

In all fairness to PCMag, the ML37 may have significantly worse battery life than the lesser Turions. I'm having trouble locating core voltage information for the Turion series. If they used a higher core voltage on the ML37, that would explain a lot. Of course, you'll probably be able to undervolt the Turion series, similar to the Athlon 64.

In short, it's a pretty useless review overall. I'm looking forwards to reviews from more trusted sources (like this site [ ]).

 

Well now that HP is rumored to offer the turion64 in the dv1000 what will the difference between the two computers be besides looks?