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    dv2000 now available in Canada

    Discussion in 'HP' started by b_naslund, Jul 13, 2006.

  1. b_naslund

    b_naslund Notebook Geek

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    All right. I'm looking at my latest flyer of BestBuy and I see it! The dv2000 is now available in Canada. I haven't gone to my local BestBuy store and see it in person.

    Anyway, the specs are pretty good for the price of $1399.99 canadian. So, with taxes it'll come up to $1581.99 canadian. Here are the specs:

    DV2040 CA Webcode: 10076798/10076882

    - Centrino Duo @ 1.6 Ghz (i'm assuming T2300)
    - 1 Gb memory
    - 120 Gb HD
    - Dual-Layer DVD Burner w/ LightScribe
    - Built-in Webcam w/ microphone
    - HP Quickplay and remote control

    As a typical consumer and a student, I'd wait until the back to school time. There's bound to be a big deal for students. Enjoy.
     
  2. dementor

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    Actually price isn't that great, the processor is that Duo T2050 :confused:
    I guess we'll have to wait for other models to come in for the price to level off.
     
  3. b_naslund

    b_naslund Notebook Geek

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    hey dementor. yeah, you're right. it's not the T2300, but T2050.

    just a quick question, what's the difference between the two?
     
  4. dementor

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    Lower bus speed, 533 vs 667mhz
     
  5. Whistler

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    I work at Best Buy, as of yesterday there were none on display... we must have had them in the back though, if they are in the flyer today they should be on display now.

    That really isn't a great price though for what you are getting... The Toshiba A100-0FH has almost identical specs, but no webcam and 15 inch, but costs 300-400 less.

    I cant wait to check out the build quality though... I know the last few batches of dv1000s we got (including one that I bought and returned :( ) took a dive in build quality... the 2000 seems like a better design though.
     
  6. b_naslund

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    actually, i'm just saying the price is pretty good for a new product. i remember toshiba's m100-jg2 is going for the same price, if not more, when it first came out. that's all.

    the already released toshibas that have the same specs as the dv2040ca are cheaper. but nobody can match the design of the dv2000. i'm sure it'll be $1299 or $1199 from now until september. i'll buy then. correct me if i'm wrong on this.
     
  7. Totalfixation

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    Gee, didnt someone say its going to come a few months after the US release? I know it wasnt the person that said it, but someone from HP who that person called in. God i hate it when these idiots dont say the correct thing. If you dont now for sure dont lead the consumers and tell them inaccurate information even if its comes out earlier.
     
  8. fenix

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    Yeah it doesn't make much sense. I also had e-mailed the same day dementor called and was told they couldn't speculate on a release date. Ummm if the product is already available in Canada why didn't you just tell me? Not too impressed.
     
  9. dementor

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    I have no reason to lie, this is what he told me when I called. Blame stupid reps not me. Then the next day bestbuy advertised this model.
    With that being said, i'm thrilled that 1 is already out, hopefully more are in the very near future.
     
  10. leof

    leof Notebook Consultant

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    god, i hate the pricing scheme in canada.
    it is literally cheaper for me to drive down to seattle and buy almost any laptop (taking into account gasoline).
     
  11. fenix

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    haha no I didn't mean that towards you. I meant "you" as in the person from hp who replied to my email, as in -> if the product was already in Canada, why couldn't the hp rep tell me.
     
  12. dementor

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    July 19th and we still only have 1 crappy model at bestbuy. I want to buy the laptop! I have been looking at other makes/models and nothing compares. I want to wait but I need it for first week August!
     
  13. b_naslund

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    I think HP Canada is really slow at bringing new products. They haven't updated their product lineup on their website considering BestBuy has a dv2000 on sale already.

    However, they do have different versions of the dv2000 in the works. If you do a website search of dv2000 on HP Canada, it'll give you a bunch of hits in the customer service area. Give it a try.

    I just hope it's all official before school starts cause I want one of these. If they still don't have it, I'm going to stick with the dv1000.
     
  14. b_naslund

    b_naslund Notebook Geek

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    All right. the dv2000s are coming along here in Canada.

    I just saw on the latest Future Shop flyer another dv2000, but it has the AMD Turion 64 X2 processor. The model code is DV2020CA. Here are the specs:

    - AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-50
    - 1024 MB DDR2 Memory
    - 80 GB SATA (5400rpm) HD
    - DVD Super-Multi Drive
    - nVidia GeForce GO 6150 Graphics

    The price? Well, it's $1199.99 Canadian. With taxes it's $1355.99 (I live in BC, so 13% tax in total). This is $200 cheaper than the Intel Core Duo version in Best Buy, which is weird because FS typically has the expensive prices, while BB has the cheaper and more affordable models.

    My only question is what do you guys think of the graphics card and the notebook overall? Anyone have any info on the nVidia card on this notebook? Is it any good? Is the notebook any good?
     
  15. leof

    leof Notebook Consultant

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    the gpu is slightly faster than the ati200x.
    but expect to have 3/4 of the battery life of the core duo equivalent. but for -200$, the x2 is very appealing indeed.
    i can't wait to see what acer will offer...
    x2 notebooks for 800$!
    and you can probably get the x2 dv2000 for 1g by the end of next month.
     
  16. libertyct

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    ****, this means we gonna be waiting longer for the duo 2 core's :-(
     
  17. dementor

    dementor Notebook Consultant

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    Not necessarily, once the dv2000 is officially out in Canada (on hp.ca website) then updates such as duo 2 should not be a problem. I believe it is just the official launch that is delayed.
     
  18. b_naslund

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    Okay. I finally got the chance to go to my local Best Buy and Future Shop branches (I live in Richmond, so these branches refer to the one at Landsdowne Mall).

    Future Shop only had the dv2020ca, which has the amd turion x2 processor with nVidia graphics. The price is $1199.99. See my previous posts for full specs.

    Then I went to Best Buy. They carried both the amd and intel versions of the dv2000. However, they are the one I've mentioned on my previous posts. So not much selection there. To my surprise, BB also had the Compaq V3000. I didn't really look at the specs, cause I'm more interested on the dv2000 (sorry guys). But I remember the price is $1399. I can't remember if it had intel or amd chip.

    Anyway, I played around with it and it looked okay for me, but I do have some peeves. The keyboard is fine for me. There is a minor keyboard flex, but it's nothing I haven't experienced before. The weight is perfect, for me. Very light to carry around and put in your bag for school. The appearance is top quality, which is what I expected.

    Now the minor peeves of the notebook. One is the buttons of the touchpad. They were a bit cheap feeeling. By that I mean when you press on them, they had too much give. In other words, when you press on them, they sink too much and doesn't seem to have fast response click like I'm used to. I don't know if that makes sense or not. Anyway, it looks like they can get very shifty, which doesn't go well with the apparent quality of the notebook. I might have to take a second fiddling around with a different unit.

    Second, the smudges that can accumulate on the shiny surface. This is not much of a problem for me, but for some it might. It kind of goes with the notebook, I think. So make sure you wipe it a least once a day.

    Third, the very limited choices. I talked to a BB salesperson and told me that the ones they currently have are the ones only available. However, he did say that when Core 2 Duo comes this August, they will have dv2000s with those chips. Now, I'm not entirely 100% sure on these. I mean just consider the source: a Best Buy salesperson. They can really screw you over or they can be your best friend, but most likely the former.

    Anyway, that's all the info I have. I hope it helps in some way.

    I do have one question. Is the Intel Core Duo substantially better than the AMD Turion X2? I mean, what kind of superior advantage one have over the other?
     
  19. glasszz

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    where can I buy DV 2000 series in Canada.. except for the few poor model in Bestbuy and futureshop????
     
  20. b_naslund

    b_naslund Notebook Geek

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    Hey glasszz. I too would also like to know. It's somewhat stupid of HP Canada to not have the DV2000 on their website while BB and FS have them with sale prices. I have visited HP Canada's website, trying to find the DV2000. All I get is their customer service stuff and nothing else on specs. It's as if it's not in their official lineup of notebooks.

    Considering that it's close approaching to August and back to school around the corner, HP Canada better have it on their website soon. Or else, they're hurting their potential sales with consumers not wanting what BB or FS has to offer.

    The only solution I can think of for you is cross to the US and buy it there. With the exchange rate so good, it's an option worth considering. Anyway, good luck glasszz.
     
  21. glasszz

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    Hey thanks for your reply! really helpful! I'll wait for a bit before I cross the border! Thank you!!!
     
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    b_naslund Notebook Geek

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    Actually, the price is $1199.99 for the Turion X2. I don't that's the sale price either. The first time I saw the Turion X2 model, the price was $1199.99. So, with the expected price cuts on the Turion X2, the price tag could go $1000 or below.

    However, isn't Intel also planning a price cut on their Core Duo chips? So the Core Duo model might be cut down in price soon. I just hope a really good deal comes before September.
     
  24. danwpc

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    What it all comes down to is that the options for Canadians are simply sub par compared to what the USA has to offer. www.hp.ca exemplifies how sad our limited options really are when compared to www.hp.com. Is it just heresay that hp will be releasing viable options for the dv2000 soon, not these limited dv2020CA, but real options like those available to Americans?
     
  25. 23days

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    When you tested it at the store, did you notice any problems with the LCD or the touchpad? I read some threads in here and many people were experiencing problems with it.

    You also mentioned about the left and right button, aside from that problem.. was it working properly because I also read some people had problems about it.

    I am also thinking of buying the 2040CA model (because it's under my budget and most importantly, it has the look and weight.. and core duo..) but then all these problems that everyone is experiencing is making me worry.. since I do expect my notebook to last quite a while.

    But then again, I am really not sure if the problems everyone is experiencing is the same as the dv2040.
     
  26. b_naslund

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    The touchpad is okay. It's just the way the touchpad buttons are. They were, as mentioned, too loose. But I think that's the way they are. I'm used to the buttons I have on my laptop right now.
     
  27. b_naslund

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    I just checked HP Canada's website and they have the dv2020ca posted on their lineup. However, it looks like they haven't really committed to it just yet. The picture they're using is some generic HP laptop and the weight info they have seems wrong (6.5 lbs). The notebook seems to be the exact same one Best Buy sells, which is so disappointing.

    Also, BB has 3 different models of the Compaq V3000, one of which has Intel Core Duo. However, it's the T2050 Core Duo.

    Does anyone know if there is substantial performance difference between the T2300 and T2050 Core Duos? Cause if not, then that would help my decision to buy a dv2000.
     
  28. 23days

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    Correct me if I am wrong.. but I found these through Google.

    T2300 is 1.83Ghz and it's about 10% different from the T2050.
    T2300 has lower power consumption rate than T2050.
     
  29. b_naslund

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    The 1.83Ghz is the T2400. Actually the T2300 and the T2050 operate at 1.6Ghz. Both are Core Duos, but each has a different FSB speed. The T2300 has 667Mhz while the T2050 has 533Mhz. Correct me if I'm wrong on these too.

    Now I know it seems like I answered my question, but I guess I should have been more specific with my question. What I'm trying to find out is whether you notice a substantial difference in performance with regarads to the difference in FSB speed for the T2300 and the T2050? Cause if not, then I'm okay with the dv2000s that Best Buy is offering here.
     
  30. miner

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    yeah, naslund is correct. The T2300 is 1.66GHz, 667MHz FSB. T2400 is 1.83GHz, 667MHz FSB. The T2050 runs at 1.60GHz, 533MHz FSB. All Core Duo's with model numbers ending with x50 use 533MHz FSB. The power consumption for all T series Core Duo's are again the same. No difference in the voltages or the TDP(31W).

    The difference in performance wont be too great. It will appear to be slower in benchmarks but in real life use depending on the applications you use the difference most likely will be minimal. The only drawback with the T2050 is the 533MHz FSB, so even if you buy 667MHz memory it wil downclock and run at 533. For the average user this is not a big issue... The T2050 is still a Core Duo so, performance should be quite respectable any model you choose.
     
  31. lazybum131

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    Went to a Futureshop over the weekend to take a look at the DV2000 (DV2020CA on display) and the Gateway Turion X2. Between the two I'd definitely go with the DV2000. Build quality was similar between both but the Gateway was very plain looking in comparison. The Gateway was cheaper, so the real competitor would be the V3000.

    About the DV2000, I actually like the soft touchpad buttons more than the usual hard-click ones, they're more like Thinkpad buttons. More cheap feeling than on Thinkpads obviously, but I wouldn't say the buttons are any cheaper feeling than the other consumer models on display. The touchpad didn't seem very good, the cursor dragged a bit but I didn't play around with the mouse driver settings to see if it could be improved.

    The LCD protection was weak, the screen flexed easily when twisted and a lot of distortions when pressing on the back of the screen (same with the Gateway notebook). Not sure if this was isolated to the particular display model, I'd have to go to a different store to see if others are like this as well.

    The base felt solid and the palmrest were fairly firm. Futureshop locks down their display models with that stupid rack thing, so couldn't get a feel of how they were to pick up and carry around. No battery installed so lifting what little I could wasn't representative of real life usage anyways.
     
  32. b_naslund

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    Thanks miner. Your response has really solved my constant rethinks over what notebook to get.

    I don't know if I should continue this question here or start a new thread, but here it goes anyway. For those who own or have substantial experience with the dv2000, how has it been?

    I'm all go for the dv2000 here with it's so-so specs and very nice looks, but I'm somewhat reluctant to switch brands from Toshiba to HP. I know someone who have bought an HP (a dv1000) and his motherboard broke after a few months of use. Now I'm not someone who likes this happened to (I don't think anyone does), so you can see my dilemma. Plus, I'm now considering other options to the dv2000 that are available at Best Buy and Futureshop near me in terms of better price and better performance. Crap :mad: so much things to consider.
     
  33. Shel

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    I've had my dv2000t for a couple of months. I"ve taken it on two trips, and on one of them, I was stuck for six hours at the airport and spent much of that time watching movies on the dv2k and doing other things.

    LOVE this machine! It's fast, and has been totally stable.

    If you can get it from somewhere where you have a period of time to check it out, and can still return it, do that.

    I think you'll be very happy should you go ahead with purchasing a dv2kt.
     
  34. mishka

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    Hi folks... I just purchased a dv2040ca from my local Best Buy. My previous notebook was a compaq x1360 (14.5 wide). I'm quite impressed with the look and operation of the dv2040. However, the battery seems to be rather poor. I've fully charged and discharged the battery about 4 times now and my average charge duration is about 2 hours and 20 minutes. I'm a bit disappointed. I expected to get at least 3 hours out of it. I've tried lowering the screen brightness, have the hard drive going to standby after 3 mins. and have the wifi cards power set to the lowest. Even after all these power saving measures I can only get about 2 hours and 20 minutes. I'm beginning to think there's a problem with my battery. Most advertisements for this notebook state that the battery could last for up to 3 hours. My compaq had almost the same capacity battery and it lasted almost 4 hours on a full charge!

    I'd love to hear how long the battery is lasting for other dv2040 centrino duo owners.
     
  35. mishka

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    Update. Just got back from Best Buy and Techies say something is definitely wrong. Will be bringing the unit back tomorrow morning and exchanging for another one. Will post results in a day or two.
     
  36. mishka

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    Well.... exchanged my dv2040 for a new one. Looks like there was something wrong with the first unit. This one still has mediocre battery performance. However, it is better. I'm getting about 2:30 to 3:00 of usage out of a fully charged battery.
     
  37. b_naslund

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    hey mishka. thanks for giving your update. i'm still contemplating about buying the dv2000 from best buy, but based on your battery performance update, it doesn't look too good. for the same battery performance, i can get a core duo toshiba laptop (the m100-jg2) and for a much better price.
     
  38. leawoes

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    Hey guys...can I change the subject a bit? bought a 2040 but can't get the webcam to work properly under normal lighting at home...settings won't apply for brightness, etc...keep going back to default...this is the second one in 2 weeks...first time I was told by hp that it was a hardware problem and to take it back...second one is the same.Updated driver for cam too. What am I doing wrong?
     
  39. dementor

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    Your question is probably better off asked in its own thread so you get better responses.
     
  40. 23days

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    I've had my dv2000 for more than a month now and so far I really like it and I don't have any problems though I have to say that battery life is not that great. But I hear that you'll get a longer battery life with a 12-cell battery?

    leawoes: Sorry I can't really help you there with the webcam problem..