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    dv5 9600M GT temperature questions...

    Discussion in 'HP' started by Blue_Wolf, Oct 31, 2008.

  1. Blue_Wolf

    Blue_Wolf Notebook Consultant

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    I've seen some people quoting figures like 70 degrees when they play things like Crysis but idle temperatures at around 50 with the 9600M GT card.


    So I downloaded GPU-Z to check mine and I get (approx temps):

    31 - Just switched on
    47 - Idle
    57 - Playing WoW

    Is this about right? I'm hoping so because that's much lower than I thought.
    Maybe I'm thinking WoW takes much more processing power than reality and it's only when I play high end graphics games that would bring those temps up.

    And this is without any mods like undervolting or a cooler. I do however prop up the back of the laptop on 2 DVD covers to keep the vents clear and I don't keep the laptop on usually for more than 5 hours. Oh yeah also I don't use the battery.


    So do these temps sound right or is the program not being accurate?


    Also, what is placed on the bottom left of the palmrest area? because that seems to get extremely hot compared to the bottom right area...

    If that's just my GPU and it's quoting just under 60 then that seems OK.
     
  2. dkwhite

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    Those temps are quite nice. The hotter it runs the shorter its life span usually. same goes for the CPUs, Hard Drives, Memory, and Chipsets.
     
  3. Guntraitor Sagara

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    left palmrest area-HDD mostly
     
  4. p1990

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    Idle @ 47 is always too hot for a mobile GPU!
     
  5. Blue_Wolf

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    Ah, ok thanks.


    I think that temp might have been after I had been gaming. Next time I'm on the laptop for a while not gaming I'll see if it's any lower.


    I've got WoW playing now, it's been on for a few hours and my temp is currently 52 :) I think it was hotter yesterday because I had the heater on in this room. The room temp now is 18.
     
  6. dkwhite

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    Don't listen to him. GPU's have a max temp rate of 100c +. You are well within specs. Many people report gpu temps upwards of 70-85c under load.
     
  7. p1990

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    @BLUEWOLF If your room temperature is around 18 then i would expect an idle GPU temperature of around 30-36...that would be quite good for an HP consider the shi**y cooling systems they provide. In a f****** hot country like India where the room temp is around 30 my idle GPU temps are always above 47! However testing it in an A/C room the temps have gone as low as 32! Btw how are the GPU temps of your VAIO?
     
  8. p1990

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    @dkwhite...i am posting only from my experiences so you have no right to judge me cut-throat here...my comments are constructive and you do not own a dv5/7 series laptop so your knowledge on the 9600m gt is considerably lower than mine(obviously,it has to be)...Unless temperatures 85,the heat generated will gradually be destroying the components inside the laptop(the wifi module breaks down initially...).Idle temperature of 47 is always hot for a mobile GPU.
     
  9. dkwhite

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    umm. yeah, ok. lol. The 9600GT is being used in many notebooks right now. Not just the DV5t. You are basing your experience on your own notebook and claiming that his temps are "way too high" for idle. Which is just plain B.S. It's a well known fact that notebook GPU's run a lot hotter than desktop GPU's. And if you spend a little time gathering information instead of spreading false information you would find that what I have stated is true. His temps are well within spec and nothing to worry about. GPU's always run hotter than CPU's. And GPU's have a higher max temp than CPU's. Average temps under load can range from 60c up to 85c. 85c being very hot.

    The OP's temps are fine.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=302393&highlight=dv5t+temps


    Macbook Pro owners are seeing pretty much the same average temps under load with the same GPU.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=315013
     
  10. p1990

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    Blue_wolf and I have laptops with similar configs.I am not spreading any false info whatsoever.I am just stating the true facts.Do you know that the temperatures what you have stated after your "research" (100 deg c) is a good 10 deg c above the danger zones for mobile GPU's! Have your read the laptop cooling guide here on this site? If yes please do so and include it as a part of your "research"....If 100 deg c was the permitted temperatures for mobile GPU's then Zalman,Antec,Cooler Master,Belkin would have all been incurring losses in the laptop market!

    Any way...lets not brawl over here :D ....its up to Blue_wolf and let him choose whatever opinion he feels is alright,whether he wants to keep his system within 89-90 deg c or let it boil at 100...
     
  11. Liux43

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    my dv5t gets to a 98ish when i play cod4.. uh oohhhhh
     
  12. 0.0

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    I find the trouble with a lot of posted readings do not include ambient temperature and so it makes it harder to determine if the GPU is operating as expected.

    Sorry if this is a bit OT but I'd like to ask a favor. :)

    I've been trying to find the electrical specifications of my GF9200M as I am also a little concerned about my GPU's temperature and whether the HP heatsink is working effectively or not. No luck so far, it seems like the specifications must be top secret or something LOL. Do you or anyone else know of an URL with the 9200 specs, if not then the 9600 datasheet would be better than nothing. Thanks.
     
  13. dkwhite

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    For some reason Nvidia doesn't like to release it's specs very often. A lot of times the numbers we have to go off of are basically just educated guesses. With Nvidia, a lot of the recent failures have not been due to max temps being exceeded but rather the amount of heat cycles. (Getting hot, cooling down, getting hot, etc. etc). The heat cycling of the GPU's will eventually cause them to fail (the ones with manufacturer defects. Which as far as I know range from the 7200 to the 8600's). The 9000+ Nvidia GPU's supposedly are not affected.

    If your HP is out of warranty and you have the time to be patient and thorough, I would suggest simply tearing the notebook down, removing the heatsink, clearing off the old thermal pads on the CPU and GPU, and replacing it with a fine layer of Arctic Silver #5 thermal grease. You'll have to do it once every year or two but the temp differences will be fairly dramatic.

    Under normal circumstances though, as long as it's not running beyond 80c consistently, you should not have too many issues until maybe 3 years down the line. Of course the hotter it runs the shorter it's life will be, but even my desktop GPU's have run upwards of 60c under load for hours at a time, so seeing 70c-75c in a notebook is really nothing to worry about.

    Just me personally, I would become worried enough to do something about it if it were running over 70c or so, but I'm a cooling freak because I like to be the one to decide when it's time to buy a new system, (IE, I don't want it dying on me. :p)

    My wife is running my old Compaq R4000 with an ATI card in it, it's been in constant use (10-14 hours a day) for almost exactly 3 years now and it's had literally 0 problems. I think I added a 2nd gig of ram and a 120 gig hard drive to it after the first year, beyond that I've done nothing to it besides clean out the vents regularly with some compressed air and keeping a cheapo cooling pad running on it at all times.

    A little bit of preventative maintenance goes a long way. And Of course you should keep in mind that manufacturers no longer call them "laptops" for a reason. :p

    Ahh well, I know this didn't exactly answer your question but I hope it helped all the same.
     
  14. imlinked

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    I second that. 47 celcius is a very acceptable temperature range for notebook gpus. ATM I'm idling at 45c with a notebook cooler underneath...

    Also, most likely you're running in the low 50's when playing WoW because it isn't a very demanding game... try running crysis as others have mentioned, and you'll see ~low 80c... imo, I wouldn't want my notebook over 85c just to be safe, but that's just my opinion. Other's state below 90c under load is "okay" though.

    The highest I have gotten on my notebook was 79 celcius running assassin's creed for about 1 hour, and this is WITH an overclocked 9600m gt. You have to be aware though, diff manufacturers have diff laptop designs, and consequently different temperatures. Me running 79c could be low for a dv5t, but high for a gx620. Also, I'm assuming when dkwhite said 100c+ can be handled... I'm sure the laptop wouldnt burst into flames, but it may leave long-term damaging effects and shorten the lifespan of the notebook.

    Just my 2 cents.
     
  15. HT_Flyer

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    57 when playing WoW is really good, my goes as high as 75 under gaming.
     
  16. Jeremy14

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    mine is when just doing normal stuff 44 degrees Celsius, but it's a DV7,

    ooh and anyone knows what the hot thing is on the left side from the touchpad? no it aren't the HDD, cause the are both on the right side
     
  17. 0.0

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    That's a shame, it would have been nice to see something in black and white, especially power consumption, but as end users I guess we're SOL. :(

    Personally I would prefer temperatures below 70C but it seems from what I'm reading here that I may be being unrealistic. Thanks for the info.
     
  18. Blue_Wolf

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    Just to confirm after more testing it is idling around 46-47 after a few hours left on without any gaming. (lol yep, took me this long to not do any gaming with my laptop)

    With the knowledge that to me, anything above 70 isn't 'safe'... I've been wondering, if I played WoW generally with higher settings always on (without the really extra things like shadowing) would it be safe with the temps I have? I currently use default settings.

    Also how much hotter could it make my GPU? thought I suppose so long as it's safe with this laptop it's better just to try it myself.

    My GPU has actually come close to reaching 70 degrees before, I think that was when it had been on WoW for more than 3 hours with a slightly above average room temp (about 23 degrees tops.)


    Generally though I'm glad to hear that my temps are pretty good for the model I have :)
     
  19. Degals

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    hey there,

    I'm going to be getting an hp laptop soon and I'll be definably playing wow on it!!! Since you have an HP with relatively close specs to mine and you obviously play wow, I was wondering if you could tell me how long do you usually play wow for. And have your temps ever got too high where you had to stop playing?

    Thanks dude :)

    ps- The temps above are good to me