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    dv5t-infinity display questions

    Discussion in 'HP' started by ALi____, Nov 8, 2008.

  1. ALi____

    ALi____ Notebook Consultant

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    i just got my new dv5t, after replacing 3 dv5z' due to heat issues. anyway, this one comes with the infinity display.
    after 2 days of continous noticing, it's very clear that the BRIGHTNESS is just overwhelming. i don't know how to explain it correctly, but lemme try to put it an example. in my previous dv5 and dv6, when i used to increase the brightness by going high performance in battery mode, the image which was used to be on display, it's colours used to go bright, but now, it's like the whole screen is full of brightness and the colours are a bit left out.
    is there any way to set it right? is there any way i can take a shot and show it to u guys so you can find me a remedy properly.
    the only unusual thing i experienced with it was, when i was at the local store and they switched it on to uninstall windows, the screen was soooo dim, though i've never seen that before, it's always at it's normal level. i asked the guy and he used the 'fn+fsumthin' combination key 3-4 times to increase the brightness. can that be a reason? :/
    help would be greatly appreciated. after all, my notebook experience wouldn't have been the same without this forum :)
     

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  2. ALi____

    ALi____ Notebook Consultant

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    the screen is definately over bright. and i need a solution please :( it can't be a screen defect right?
     
  3. Infamous22

    Infamous22 Notebook Deity

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    Try holding down the "fn" key while tapping the "f7" and "f8" keys. The "f7" key should have a little picture of the sun and a down arrow. That means darker.
     
  4. ALi____

    ALi____ Notebook Consultant

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    is this the same brightness as in windows mobility or nvidia control panel? :/
     
  5. Vladk1000

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    Try adjusting the color settings in the NVIDIA Control Panel (Start->Control Panel->NVIDIA Control Panel).
     
  6. ALi____

    ALi____ Notebook Consultant

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    @Vladk1000
    nothing suits my eyes there, whatever change i bring in values, it feels i've done the wrong thing :(
    i've never felt any screen difference in the last 4 notebooks (3 dv5, 1 dv6)
    im at my desktop pc right now, excited to use the same fn combination. may be that's what causing it.
     
  7. ALi____

    ALi____ Notebook Consultant

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    @infamous22
    i'll check it up the same combination to reverse the effect in a while, but pleaseeeee tell me it's not a lcd screen defect :(
    also, what good/bad role does infinity play in it?
    and as i asked, is this key combination the same brightness as in windows mobility or nvidia control panel?
     
  8. Vladk1000

    Vladk1000 Notebook Consultant

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  9. ALi____

    ALi____ Notebook Consultant

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    @Vladk1000
    oh, this is a huge jump from the original values, i'll check it up though, but why isn't all the screens at same settings? why do we have to increase/decrease the values so much? btw, are you using the same settings? what made u do so?
     
  10. Vladk1000

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    Yes, these are my settings. When I got my laptop, the colors were overexposed and the brightness was way too high, so I played around with the settings for a couple of days until I found the right settings.

    I just tried clicking on "Restore Defaults" in the NVIDIA Control Panel, and that's exactly how it looked when I got my laptop. Changing the color settings there and setting the brightness in the power options menu should make the screen look much better.
     
  11. ALi____

    ALi____ Notebook Consultant

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    @Vladk1000
    ur settings didn't work for me, the screen gets too dark. anyway, i've learnt that it's all abt the viewing angle. if i keep the screen angle right infront of me, like straight, the brightness overwhelms. if i tilt it towards back, it's all good. but even then, for a comparison, i just connected it to me friend's 17inch samsung lcd and took 2 rough photos from my cell phone, so i ll upload it here, give it a look and u ll get the idea what i'm talking about.
     
  12. Vladk1000

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    I think my settings are too dark because you lowered the brightness by using fn+f7, try increasing the brightness (fn+f8). I think the fn combination is separate from the NVIDIA Control Panel and the power options brightness settings.
     
  13. Tenspeed

    Tenspeed Notebook Consultant

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    personally,, whatever you did in the second picture, looks better to me, (on your laptop).
     
  14. cpu2k

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    Go to this site and see if you can adjust the gamma, brightness and contrast... it fixed my washed out screen...

    http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/
     
  15. ALi____

    ALi____ Notebook Consultant

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    @tenspeed
    thanx :D didn't do anything, it's the brightness that i'm talking about. so basically there's nothing wrong with my screen eh.

    @cpu2k
    i'll check it out, though i believe i'm not good at it.
     
  16. pras123

    pras123 Newbie

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    hey man! please don't compare it with a desktop LCD. rather compare it with other laptops and u'll know about how neutral dv5 screen is!! other screens are bluish. dv5 is anyway excellent value for money!
     
  17. Vladk1000

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    Can you give us a link to the wallpaper? I want to see how it looks on my screen.
     
  18. ALi____

    ALi____ Notebook Consultant

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    i will, the link is saved in my notebook. i'll pm you.
     
  19. ALi____

    ALi____ Notebook Consultant

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    what the ****..
    it was infinity display causing all this **** in my mind :O
    i can't believe it. i just checked the infinity display comparison thread by infamous22, and realized that this whitish glare/less sharp screen is what we call infinity.
    so, basically, if a person has previously owned a non infinity display, he can't live with a infinity panel.
     
  20. ALi____

    ALi____ Notebook Consultant

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    can we remove the infinity panel?
    just wanna know how it works. as actually i'm so pissed off right now. after 5 messed up days of figuring out the reason behind the whitish glare on the screen, i just realized it's the infinity panel causing it.
     
  21. Harper2.0

    Harper2.0 Back from the dead?

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    no you'll have to return it and get the non-infinity display.
     
  22. suland

    suland Notebook Evangelist

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    Sure, you can...it will look ugly, but you will have your screen opened right for your eyes.
     
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    Harper2.0 Back from the dead?

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    if you do though, say good-bye to your warranty.
     
  24. Savior

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    You should return it, you could save some money since you paid extra for the infinity option.
     
  25. ALi____

    ALi____ Notebook Consultant

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    as i'm in pakistan, i don't enjoy such facilities. i can't return or get a replacement/refund.
    i'm planning to talk to the store in the morning, i bought it 4 days ago. i'm willing for a slight price cut and if they can take it back and sell it someone else.
    if i hadn't used non infinity displays in the last 10 months, i might have not felt any difference, but you guys have no idea what a torture it is. i move my head abit while looking at the screen, and the whole display changes.
     
  26. ALi____

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    i wonder why isn't this a huge issue here. infinity displays are just not feasible at all!
     
  27. ttv

    ttv Notebook Geek

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    Ok, based on the comments you've made, there isn't anything wrong with the screen technology. Rather, it seems you don't know how to setup a screen, nor how to position it so you can look at it. Plus, that picture you are using is extreme in contrast. You have a dark background and a car that has very dark to very light paint color. Plus, it looks like you have a light source, like maybe a window, to the right of the picture, which could be throwing light and glare.

    The infinity screen is simply a piece of "glass" HP puts on the front of the screen to give the overall appearance a more unified cosmetic look.
    Nearly all ltops now come with glossy screens.
    Keep your screen AWAY from harsh light sources that can cause glare.
    Glossy screens are used to improve color saturation appearance and contrast.
    It's the same type of thing that happens with pictures on matte paper or glossy paper. I prefer the neutral look of matte, but glossy gives better color saturation and contrast.

    DV5's do not have very bright screens. My Dell has a brighter screen, in terms of actual light output. The Dell has a matte screen.
    You need to adjust the brightness, digital vibrance, contrast, sharpness, and gamma. Make sure "color channel" is set to "all channels".

    Using other peoples settings often don't work, because adjusting your monitor is very dependent on the ambient lighting in the room you are using.
    So, settings someone would use in a room that has a lot of daylight, will not look very good in a room where someone is using a single 60 or 100 watt bulb.

    The adjustments we have are not very "pro" so you can setup the image up very well. But, the adjustments that are there can improve overall image quality.

    Start with overall brightness on the ltop. Adjust the F8 setting to maximum.
    Then use the Nvidia control panel and set the brightness to around 50%.
    Set digital vibrance to a low of around 10-15%. Set contrast to around 40%.
    Sharpening leave at 0 or "none". Gamma should start low around 20%.

    Too much gamma will cause and overly bright and washed out image.
    Too much brightness will cause a similar overly bright washed out look.
    Contrast is used to adjust the subtle shades of gray. Adjust it to achieve a nice balance between the lightest and darkest parts of the screen.
    Use the pictures available in the adjustment panel.
    There are color bars and 2 other images.
    You can also use a nice desktop picture that has very light and dark areas.
    Digital vibrance is a color saturation adjustment. Too much and colors appear artificial. Use it in small amounts to adjust color saturation.

    It would be nice if we could adjust white balance, and hue. But, we can't, or at least I can't with the controls I have.
    White balance is very important because all the other colors, and how they appear, are based on the reference point of what "white" is. It should be there to adjust, but it's not. That's a bad move.
    The Mac OS has an excellent monitor adjustment software. It's complex, but once you do it you have an excellent image, if you know what you're doing.

    Your images look too bright and/or too much gamma.
    Try the settings above as starting points. Position the monitor so that you don't have any glare from bright light sources.
    And, good luck. :)
     
  28. uncming

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    I disagree, some what

    Depends on the location - I enjoy my screen indoors, especially in the dark. BUT I know that it'll be impossible to use outdoors
     
  29. wqqar

    wqqar Newbie

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    Hi,

    My first post :rolleyes: , cause I bought my DV5-1135ee, 2 days back :)
    @ Ali
    I'm from Lahore, PK as well, bought the same model as yours and I've been playing around for last 2 days. Infinity display aint that bad. Its just a bit glary.

    However, I'm loving it ..... :p
     
  30. patora4ever

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    did any one solve the dust issue ? open it or something?