dv6t-61XX / dv7t-61XX Switchable Graphics Discussion

Hmmm... it seems that the drivers through Windows Update will not install for me. The error it is displaying matches that of the hardware not being found on my notebook. Not too worried over not having the "latest/greatest" driver software installed. I do not use my system for gaming or anything like that. Though it would be nice knowing that I COULD if I wanted to.

 

Any ideas please? i have installed latest windows update drivers and it installed version: 8.830.6.2000 both radeon and intel gpu's but still not get the dynamic scheme...

 

1. You only updated to HP(0x103C) AMD 11.4 , not 11.5
2. You updated the CCC in a weird way. Since I don't remember the command to force override. I can't help you there.
3. The common driver package does not contain the necessary libs to enable the dynamic switching, only the hardware support but not the software. Try asking those who have the 6100 for their driver.
It is not posted on the HP website

 

Thanks. so if anyone has got 6xxx series, i am waiting for his suggestion...

 

Here's a thought on the switchable graphics.

I've heard it said that the machines with dynamic graphics switching and manual switching have the same hardware setup and that eventually the manual switching ones will be able to do dynamic switching.

If this is the case, it seems to me to be a driver limitation.

I noticed on my original dv7tqe 6000 when I updated the drivers to 11.5b the manual switch button was still there. Likewise when I updated my 6100 to 11.5b the dynamic switching was still there. It seems that the part of the driver that handles how the graphic switching is done is in the base package and the 11.5b driver doesnt touch it.

Could someone post a zip of the 6000 revision base driver from swsetup and another person post the 6100 revision driver? This way we could test for ourselves if we can turn our machines into a manual or auto-switch machine on our own rather than be subject to the whims of HP.

 

I don't think that's going to work. HP and I already tried.

 

Well, the base AMD driver for the 6000 is on both the NBR Driver and HP Website.

We kinda figured the 6100 downgrade won't work.

But what if the other way around.

 

I have 13 hours of bored time at work again tonight, I'm willing to try

 

Well I did it right now instead, but interestingly enough it didnt work.

I've got the base driver from the 6000 for both Intel and ATI installed on my 6100 yet the manual switch option is not available, it still brings up the dynamic switch panel in the CCC. That's with the package from the 6000 drivers.

Current Driver Versions:
ATI: 8.810.4.1000
Intel: 8.15.10.2266

I'll try more tonight.

 

So, I have the 6100 FHD. My temps when not doing much, for example, i was just watching a low res youtube video in firefox and I have MS word open, are 55c. That seems a little high, as people were saying that they would not get above 50 in those circumstances. Also, even when doing those minor tasks, according to GPU-z, my 6770 is hard at work. Sup with that?

My inclination is that GPU-z MUST be wrong. Also, concerned about the temps

 

So its very interesting. i am trying to get dynamic panel and still cant get it.

I have tried too many driver version combinations. i have only Switching GPUs Based on Power Source.

For who want to get Auto Switching GPU based on Power source, my current driver versions:

sp52929 installed

Intel: 8.830.6.2000
AMD: 8.830.6.2000

Catalyst Control Center Version: 2011.0412.2341.40734

Driver Packaging Version 8.83.6.2-110412a-117442C-HP
Provider ATI Technologies Inc.
2D Driver Version 8.01.01.1134
2D Driver File Path /REGISTRY/MACHINE/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Control/CLASS/{4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}/0000
Direct3D Version 7.14.10.0817
OpenGL Version 6.14.10.10600
Catalyst Control Center Version 2011.0412.2341.40734

 

Set your browser to power save instead of high performance, it may correct your issue. The Intel HD hardware acceleration should be more than plenty for Flash video

EDIT

On the dynamic switchable graphics front. I think I have an idea to chop it down to manual switching, but I dont have time to do it right now, I'll post again later tonight.

 

it is set to power saver

 

Update: It doesn't seem that my IGP works AT ALL. But I cannot be certain of the reliability of the tools I am using.

PS, I found the most amazing CPU and GPU monitoring tool. Here is the link to it, it literally has EVERYTHING, and it also recognizes the 6770 and gets the clock speeds right.

HWiNFO, HWiNFO32 & HWiNFO64 - Hardware Information and Analysis Tools

Download HWiNFO64 for 64 nit systems. It has EVERYTHING. Way better then gpuz cpuz and all that stuff from cpuid. Let me know what ya'll think!

 

Quick update:

So I've managed to actually make it so that my ATI drivers arent doing anything (although they are installed), the CCC wont run and the only display adapter that appears to be functioning is the Intel IGP.

Interestingly enough, this made it so display rotation works, a feature that some people said was missing with the dynamic switching graphics.

Kind of the reverse of what I was wanting, so I'm still working at it.

 

IGP and GPU working fine now. This new tool I got, HWiNFO is revealing it all.

 

It may be working for you with the apps you have loaded, but I still need someone with FSX to let me know if they have the Radeon working in FSX. (ie, working "fine" is a relative term. )

 

Well unfortunately I havent been able to enable manual switching on my 6100. Any time that I can get both Intel and ATI graphics drivers installed and functioning together it immediately does dynamic switching.

If the newest Intel release drivers are installed they break the CCC even if the ATI driver is installed properly. If the Intel drivers arent installed properly and the ATI drivers are, the resolution is low and it doesnt seem to default to the ATI card even then.

It seems to me that the hardware for the manual switch and dynamic switch must be different.

 

I'd say that if I was to compare the vBios revision of my Radeon 6770m on my 6023tx, it would be different to yours. Or alternatively there is something in the driver set(ATi/AMD) that will auto trigger the Dynamic switching no matter what u do. Personaly I dont think your going to have much luck tricking your setup into thinking its the manual version, unfortunately.

 

One could hope

 

I have yet to find anyone who is able to run a Second Life viewer on the 6100 revision. Following the standard procedure for designating the GPU by application fail to work. I have the 6000 revision on my 2-week-old DV7T and SL runs just fine. I wanted to return it and get the 1900 X 1080 screen but I know I'll get the newer 6100 version and be stuck with being unable to run SL.

 

I'll give it a try. tell me what you are tying to run and provide a link.

Update: DLoading SLV now. Will see if I can get 6770m to kick in, although I'm thinking that IGP may handle it fine.

Update: Damn dude, SL is a resource HOG. So, it absolutely cripples the Intel IGP. Unfortunately, I could not get the 6770 to kick in. I set SLV for high performance. That didnt work. Also, I tried running a program that caused the 6770 to kick in, and THEN I loaded SLV, and it still did its little hardware diagnostic at startup and wouldnt recognize the 6770, even though it was running at the time. If SL is important to you, i certainly would not recommend the 6100 just yet, because running it on the intel IGP si like watching a slideshow.

 

not that I know anything about SL, but couldn't there be some other file that needs to be set to High performance for it to kick in? I think they really need a database of programs so that you can just pick a program and then CCC does the legwork in figuring out which executables need to be set to "high performance"

 

You do know how ridiculous that sounds for a consumer product, right? HP has their head up you-know-where if they expect the general public to be hunting around for the "proper" executable. I think the whole notion is, quite frankly, STUPID! HP needs to get this resolved now. I emailed "the CEO", but of course, that appears to have been a fruitless exercise.

 

Does Second Life run via a launcher? In other words when u click on the SL icon does it goto a launcher that lets u enter ur account details, set graphics & sound options etc and you actually start the game from this launcher? I wouldnt know as I dont use/have SL, but if its like LOTR Online Or Age of Conan for example you start the game via a launcher(so it can update your game etc).
If you do, you may have to look through your Program files etc to find the "actual" .exe that is the game. Going on past Nvidia Optimus experience that generally fixes the problem.

 

That is exactly the problem. The launcher for SL runs a search for the GPU, and it doesnt find the 6770. Those types of programs don't work well with switchable. Programs that work fine are ones that just let themselves be boosted by whatever hardware is there, without needing to look around and "authorize" specific hardware before hand, like SL is doing for some reason.

 

Hey you guys I just created an account here to say that I am also experiencing the same issues related to not being able to manually switch the gpu on a dvt-6100. I would like to add to the conversation by saying that the performance of the ATI gpu 6770m 1Gb seems far less then the dvt-6000 i owned a couple weeks ago, specifically while playing Crysis. The mouse for some reason becomes far less responsive and their is a considerable lag even though the frame rate is 30+ (it is unplayable). Testing on the intel gpu shows a 10-15 fps however the mouse is more responsive. These are medium settings even though I previously played it on a mix of high and medium.

 

So I ran sims 3 with high performance and all the settings maxed out on my dv7-6143cl w/ 8gb ram, i7 2630, hd6770m 17.3" screen w/ 1600*900 and I get around 15-30 fps using fraps. The sims3 sounds like a lame non-hardcore game but it must be a hog on graphics. My wife uses the architecture feature to build homes and towns etc. There are 8 discs of expansions to install but I thought a 6770 would give better fps. So then I turned it on power saver and it only dropped about 10 fps or wouldnt run.

Then on my wifes samsung rf511-03 with an nvidia gt 540 I was getting 20 fps consistently with the same maxed out settings but it only has an i5 2410 and 6gb ram although its a 15.6" with 1366*768.

I must say the nvidia set up is a hell of a lot easier with a much better ui set up. That amd is pure crap having to go select every bloody exe. and never know what the heck is running. I tried canurunit on the HP and all it could detect was the stupid IGP.I but it worked on my the nvidia.

Is it normal for for the performance to be the same on the i5 2410 gt540 vs the i7 2630 6770?

 

anyone tried this?

Modified ATI Catalyst 11.2 Switchable Graphics Driver - Guru3D.com Forums

 

Why would you revert to a much older version than your HP stock driver?

Second, running test mode is a pretty bad idea for a computer usage that isn't used for evaluation only.

 

i have tried but did not worked for me... i dont know how to get dynamic scheme for switchable graphics...

 

I have one of the new dv6t quads with the 1080p screen and the Radeon 6770M with 2gb of memory. I wiped my computer and re-installed windows on it to get rid of the base install, and after installing everything I wasn't able to get the catalyst control center to be visible. After finding this thread, I installed the 11.5b drivers posted on page 2 and that enabled the CCC once again... AND the manual (software) switching works! Thanks for that!

I was wondering if anyone else is having issues running portal2? I try to start it up but it'll crash with an error of "portal2.exe stopped working" (completely not helpful I know) and I'm wondering if it's because of the switchable graphics. I've set it up to run as high performance, but it's still bombing out after the initial valve and source logos, it'll get to the portal 2 screen with atlas and pbody jumping a chasm, and then it'll just crash.

Is this happening to anyone else? Has anyone fixed it?

 

Did anyone give you their 6100 AMD driver?

Also, make sure you did a remove all AMD traces prior to install, either manually or use driver sweeper. <-- People keep missing this step for some reason. This help confirmation.

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@uofirob, did it work on the stock driver at least? Preinstalled Driver is 11.4, don't know about the driver in the swfolder look like 11.2? ... It could be a driver related issue.
Not all AMD drivers are perfect and breaks older games or newer games based on older engine pretty quickly.

 

we can't use driversweeper on the 6100 series. it gives BSOD. even if you do it in safemode it's still buggy.

 

I don't know as I wiped the computer (Including the restore partition) before I installed Steam. I didn't think to try it with the stock drivers.

Is Portal 2 working for anyone else with this system?

 

Not sure what you mean by "Manual" switching, because you certainly are not actually getting manual switching. Do you perhaps mean the ability to set thing to high performance vs power saver?

 

Yes, initially I didn't have the CCC option at all so I couldn't do any high performance setting for any games whatsoever. After the 11.5b driver install I had CCC again and I manually set the game to "High Performance" (via software) instead of the autoswitching (having the videocard detect it automatically).

 

that's not really "manual". Manual was what we USE TO HAVE with the prior-6100 models. "manual" meant you could set either card to be used until you changed it--the setting was independent of what app you ran.

 

i ordered a dv6t quad edition yesterday with a 6770 graphing card, i heard you can't switch manually is this true? is there any driver i can install to make it work?

 

Many thanks to those who made the attempt to run the Second Life viewer on the 6100 revision. The results were pretty much what I expected since I have a friend who I've been working with to try to get it up and running on her dv7t-6100. I have the 6000 revision which is only 8 days older and, since I can assign the ATI GPU globally, Second Life and its variants work just fine.

 

yes. no

 

BSOD in normal mode is expected but safemode have problem?

It should loaded up the default and only see the intel but load the standard vga driver after reboot. Not the intel driver.

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Isn't Ezerch trying to install the 6100 driver on his 6000?

 

problem is, it never loads the standard vga driver. it reverts to 3/15 intel and amd drivers no matter how its deleted - or gives straight BSOD upon reboot.

 

Did you happen to use the Windows Update to update some parts of the driver??

If not, I guess the driver sweeper failed to delete them. You should gotten to the point it only load standard vga driver, which takes a couple of additional attempts to be sure.
Windows should have no memory or have a catalog of previous graphic drivers.

 

that is what I thought before i got the 6100, in fact i thought that i could get manual switching on it by playing around with the drivers. it is somehow different from conventional system that I'm used to, at the hardware/bios level, not just at the drivers level. things that work on other systems (e.g. driversweep followed by installation of drivers) doesn't work on this.

i can get rid of the drivers to one of two points - completely nonexistent or at the 3/15 intel/ati. in the first case, none of the drivers work, not even the ones from HP - it claims hardware not compatible. the only thing i can do at that point is to rescan for "hardware changes" in device manager and let it install the 3/15 drivers. either way, in order to get a functional display driver, you HAVE to go through the intel/ati 3/15 drivers. if you go before that, then you can't move forward to any new drivers at all as now it claims that there is hardware incompatibility.

 

That's weird. Then how a couple of people managed to clean install their 6100 if the HP default didn't install.

 

I think i have tried all possible driver combinations with amd and intel.

i have only one time get the dynamic scheme, when i installed "applications profile cap2" on 8.830.6.2000 drivers.

but its not came back again.

 

I don't know about ya'll, but dynamic is working pretty well for me. Settings to high performance works most of the time. Also, as devs begin begin to understand dynamic switching better, it will be more responsive.

 

can you write which versions you get now? catalyst control center, amd and intel versions?

 

You haven't answered if you downloaded the 6100 HP AMD Driver from someone who owns a 6100?