dv6t-61XX / dv7t-61XX Switchable Graphics Discussion

I think you are wasting your time. A certain member here must have gotten the manually switching option screen from an earlier model. the 6100 isn't going to have it. we've been duped, pure and simple.

 

how do you explain this then...


i have not ever seen this pic anywhere else. not on the dv6/7 6000 or 6100, not on any other laptop or website.

 

what's to explain? he already admitted he can't get to the manual screen again. of course he can't. because the drivers that WILL install on a 6100 unfortunately don't have that feature. period. there's nothing new from HP and we can't use the drivers from ATI, so all his talk about "new drivers today" is bull, because you still can't use the ATI drivers that have todays time stamp on them.

 

how do I get this? This is like the best of both worlds!! You get dynamic switching when you want it, and switch to manual when you'd prefer that. That is something I could get behind!

 

I have not seen that page anywhere before either. The closest thing is a Vision Control Center page that is exactly the same except that the logo at the top right says vision instead of radeon.

Seems geniune enough, leads me to believe its a registry value that controls whether that page is available or not..

 

oh, no here we go again--someone claimed the other day they could work the registry over, to make this work. I've no problem editing the registry--do it all the time, but I think too many people are over confident. HP needs to make this happen--not some hotshot who thinks he can "hack" a fix.

 

As we all suspected, the capability is already there within the AMD drivers. It seems to be Intel that is the problem. I base this on the fact that the sp53025.exe contains the same AMD driver version you can get via Windows Update, 8.830.6.2000.

What the new graphics package really updates is the Intel drivers. The stock version for the 6100 is 8.14.1.6195, and this package updates them to 8.15.10.2219. Additionally, he said he updated his BIOS to F.14, while stock is F.13.

Basically I think that no matter what AMD does from this point on, the burden to fix this is on HP (who provides the Intel drivers).

 

if he didn't actually succeed and was just trying to trick us, how did he get that pic?

 

Edit: Deleted. Playing devil's advocate in this situation only adds fuel to the fire.

 

What I want to happen is for shorty to post a step-by-step summary of what he did complete with download links and everything.

Maybe post a video, showing your CCC, too. kthx

 

he didn't get it off a 6100. looks like he was looking for notoriety. I've seen people do this crap before. I've asked that he be banned, but I'm not sure that the forum mods even pay attention to the goings on with this SG issue, so they won't likely be up to speed on the history of it. there's no way he got manual switching on a 6100 and then it "suddenly disappeared". it was a con.

and I'm kicking my own butt for ordering after ONLY HE claimed success. I should have waited until one other person verified it. stupid, stupid me.

 

I believe someone else here got it working as well at one point, only to lose i on the next reboot. Given what I said here, I'm confident that this issue will be resolved in the next update or two from HP. As it stands, the only disappointing thing about the dynamic switching, aside from inconvenience, is the lack of OpenGL support. As such, I am really looking forward to a resolution, but I wouldn't return the computer over it.

 

We should be a team here and not impugn someone's integrity. Maybe be a bit more cautious and patient before ordering another computer the second someone says its fixed. Calling someone a liar and seeking to ban them is a bit harsh. But maybe I will be banned for speaking up too...?? Lets all just get along and all the great minds on here will figure something out I am sure.

 

+rep. People need to quit freaking out. I'm sure we will figure out something.

 

I'm on the phone with HP at the moment, canceling my order. that fixes MY problem. I hope the rest of you guys get some satisfaction. I'll keep watching and waiting for a REAL fix.

 

hello??? the ONLY application I need the Radeon for, WON'T WORK with the auto switching, so it should make SENSE that I'd not want the computer.

 

+1 rep back at ya. Lets keep the threads positive. Already too many trials in real life. I come on these boards to get away from it all. Peace.

 

Sorry Dave, I was referring to myself and others. It's strange that FSX isn't working, as it is a DirectX application. But no doubt that manual switching should fix that as well. Hope it's soon so you can reorder with the coupon.

 

FSX worked fine on my 6100 when I downloaded the demo. I posted as much in the owners thread.

 

Couple things:

1) dave1812, please stop being so dramatic and accusatory, both to HP and to other people, it's not constructive at all. Calling him a liar is based on what information you had then (you do know that no one followed exactly what he said he did right? The first step was a minimal system restore, and I'm sure most people just uninstalled the driver and tried it), is very... not nice to say the least. On top of that, get your facts straight. HP did release a set of drivers for the 6100 today - the ATI driver was not available on the 6100 page before.

2) Having said that, I practically 100% agree with him - that shortysclimbing was lying. I've tried uninstalling the drivers, driver sweeping, and then installing the HP driver - fail.

Tried minimal system restore then installing HP drivers - fail.

Tried a couple other things - also fail.

Then I noticed that this pic
is actually from

3) Having said THAT, supposedly HP laptops are able to reach that "Switchable Graphics Method" page, according to this:

Page 40 from this:

http://h20566.www2.hp.com/portal/site/hpsc/template.BINARYPORTLET/public/kb/docDisplay/resource.process/?spf_p.tpst=kbDocDisplay_ws_BI&spf_p.rst_kbDocDisplay=wsrp-url%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252F16.238.8.173%253A24827%252Fsp4tssearch%252FbinaryDocDisplay%253FdocId%253Demr_na-c02849548%2526docLocale%253Dzh_CN%26wsrp-requiresRewrite%3Dfalse&javax.portlet.begCacheTok=com.vignette.cachetoken&javax.portlet.endCacheTok=com.vignette.cachetoken

 

really? are YOU going to build a new driver?

 

One small thing we may have overlooked. Driver package sp53025.exe includes the AMD drivers, plus Intel driver 8.15.10.2219. At first glance, this is the most recent update. However, the standalone Intel driver package on the HP site, which is listed directly below the new AMD driver package, is for Intel driver version 8.15.10.22 91. A google search shows that this is not a typo, and that they are two different versions. The 2219 version actually being from January, it seems.

 

Of course not, but I am continuing to investigate all possible avenues (see above). The main point of that post is that getting so worked up about it doesn't do yourself or anyone else any good. Especially when you vent frustration out on fellow forum-goers, who are all experiencing the same problem.

Edit: Sorry for the double post. Too late now I suppose.

 

i'm not that familiar with laptop manufacturers, but does HP care enough to update the drivers so switching works or do they just normally chill and keep selling laptops?

 

Sorry if this is a noob question, but how do I tell if the graphics card has switched? I'm not convinced it ever is switching over.

 

whew. finally got the order cancelled. took forever! LOL!

 

You can use HWMonitor or MSI Afterburner to tell when the other card has kicked in. In HWMonitor, it will always show the name of the Intel chip, but will not monitor temperature or voltage changes unless the Radeon is active. I have never used MSI Afterburner, but it apparently does not have this problem.

 

don't be sorry--that's not a "noob" question. part of the problem is that for some apps, it DOESN'T switch, and the other issue is that the user can't readily detect which card is being utilized at any given moment. it's a real big mess, at this point.

 

that's fine for us geeks, but the average pc user shouldn't/wouldn't use monitoring apps.

 

you guys are getting the responsibilities of the different people confused.

HP is responsible for implementing the on/off button of switchable graphics - as in they enable the option, disable the option, or change it to manual/dynamic.

AMD is responsible for the actual switch itself be it manual or dynamic.

Another way to look at it is that if you can't get a working switchable graphics on an HP laptop with the 6770m, you won't be able to get it anywhere else either.

Right now, all you can blame HP for, is that they chose to switch to using the dynamic switchable graphics when AMD didn't let it cook in the oven long enough.

 

Agreed.

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I just dug into the drivers that were posted today, there is actually a typo in the HP package. The drivers in the Intel folder are version 2347

 

Okay, I somewhat take back the claim that I think shorty was lying.

If you look on the edge of the switchable graphics method window, the transparent edges shows different color than the ONLY other pic of that screen that i could find on the internet. On top of that, his GPU-Z shows 2048MB of memory AND 800mhz for mem clock (which as far as I know, is impossible to get so far, because GPU-z doesn't read 800mhz unless you have manual switch, and you can't have 2048mb on a 6000 version).

Unless someone can provide another link to that switchable graphics method page, with the exact border shades as shorty's, I think that he probably did have that option at one point.

Kinda confused now...

 

Someone with a dv7t-6000 backup your registry and send it to me j/k

 

guys i might have found something Core-Static.xml in the CCC install folder actually modifies the ui in CCC.. maybe editing this will enable the switching graphics method page.. (I managed to remove both the powerplay and switchable graphics by merely editing the lines out of the xml file). Fingers crossed i might have something working really soon.

 

Everyone wants to be a hero...but until HP ships out a fixed driver...

 

I tried exactly what Shorty did and it didn't work. You guys sound a bit paranoid, I believe him 100% I guess their is something special he did he didn't include in his post.

Would it work if we installed AMD's latest official driver then installed Intel's latest official driver for the HD 3000 separately?

 

This is what I suggested somebody try. Personally, things are stable for me, so I think I'm done with any more tinkering until we have a consensus on a working solution. But everyone else is welcome to give it a go.

 

Whenever I try to install Intel drivers it gives me a message saying something like "Your computer doesn't meet the required specifications for this driver." I'm sure I'm using the right driver...

 

Actually, looking at Beradon's post again, I think he meant that the HP AMD driver package actually contains a newer version than the standalone Intel package. So I guess it doesn't even matter, really.

 

It's not about being a hero but just getting these damn drivers to work. My suspicions at this point of time is that the feature works and is there. Its just that the hp packaged drivers have disabled the ui element on CCC and for some reason the file didnt load properly that time for shorty

I think its an angle worth investigating..

 

I'm all for a fix, believe me. I want/need a new laptop. and I want it to be a DV6 with the HD screen.

 

I had the same thought but approached it from a different direction at one point, I tried locating registry entries that enabled or disabled the functionality, but never found them, likely cause they dont exist.

 

Paranoid isn't the correct term. The term is "burned". Paranoia is when you are afraid someone is out to get you, but they aren't. Shorty couldn't have done what he claimed he had. He has wasted a lot of people's time, including the time I spent on the phone with HP ordering/cancelling another useless DV6.

 

oh, BTW, gang, the escalation specialist told me tonight she was going to forward my comments about SG to management. HEHE!. How many people does that make in HP that have told me they will "pass it on"? ANSWER: I've lost count.

 

if he hasn't, how did he produce those 3 screenshots?

if ANYONE can recreate those 3 screenshots on ANY computer, even if you photoshop it, WITHOUT THOSE 3 SCREENSHOTS TO START WITH, then i'll believe that he is lying.

 

i don't think he could get those shots on a 6100, and then claim soon afterwards that he no longer can access those screens. I'm familiar with the manual switching screen--from the 6000. when I saw that, I thought he truly had an updated driver for the 6100 that solved my problem. bogus.

 

Anyone know if the HP Power Saver settings in the control panel have any bearing on the subject?

 

I tried all that stuff, to no avail.

 

Just a reminder, that the latest Intel HD package version is 15.22.1.2361 (8.15.10.2361). Have Fun, getting that to work too.

It's nice to see you all very active.