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    dv7z does not have hybrid crossfire

    Discussion in 'HP' started by hawkeen, Jul 15, 2008.

  1. hawkeen

    hawkeen Newbie

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    I contacted HP and asked if I purchased the 3450 graphics upgrade for the dv7z would that give me they powerXpress hybrid crossfire and I was told no. There would only be 1 graphics card not 2. The 3200 vs 3450 difference is not worth 100 bucks unless you want HDMI output.

    cheers
    Hawk
     
  2. thepreacha619

    thepreacha619 Notebook Evangelist

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    what about the other laptops in the dv5 series (specifically the intel ones.)
     
  3. hawkeen

    hawkeen Newbie

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    crossfire is a ATI/AMD technology.
     
  4. sr.agent.riot

    sr.agent.riot Notebook Consultant

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    The HD3200 is not a separate video card; it is built into the chipset. So, if you opt for the discrete video adapter, you also have the HD3200 because it is part of the chipset. Theoretically, you could use them in hybrid graphics mode. I'm sure HP just locked it out in the BIOS or somewhere else. That means it is only a matter of time before someone (or I :)) finds a way to make it work.
     
  5. brianstretch

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    Or HP just didn't bother to tell us how to enable it. Hard to say. The only thing I'm certain of is that the HP rep you talked to didn't understand the question.

    I'm very disappointed that the dv7z only offers the 3450 as an upgrade. They should at least have offered the 3650, Hybrid Crossfire or not.
     
  6. MightyJD

    MightyJD Notebook Enthusiast

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    Anyone Considering the dv5z should seriously go for the dv5t. For the same price I configured a much faster dv5t.

    I sent my dv5z back to HP.
     
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    oh sry. i meant does the intel version use the nvidia sli?
     
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    like the dv5t specced in your sig? The CPU may be much better, but the GPU is not. X4500 is not nearly as good as the 3200, or the 3450 you had with the dv5z. But I do wonder how the 9200M GS compares to those... And of course the 9600M GT kills it all, but is $$$ :)
     
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    I was told you get HDMI port even with HD 3200...
     
  10. sr.agent.riot

    sr.agent.riot Notebook Consultant

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    Yes, you got a faster processor (whoopty-doo) by sacrificing hard drive size, bluetooth, and a better IGP/GPU.

    Not worth it to me, at least.
     
  11. MightyJD

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    Let me tell you the Turion Chip is darn slow! I owned a dv5z w/ the HD3450 graphics and there is no way you can run a modern game on it. It sucked about 3260 marks in 3D Mark05. The X4500 will do just fine for my general useage. My Xbox 360 and Desktop PC are better suited for gaming anyway. This is not a gamers laptop (all dv5's) unless you upgrade to the 9600GT on the dv5t. Then you'll be talking about a config for $1500 or more.

    I chose to go with the smaller hard drive and the standard wifi, to save myself the cash. My configured dv5t was still $117 less than the d5vz I returned.

    Go spend $1000-$1200 on the dv5z and tell me how blazing fast it is. I owned one and I KNOW it's not.

    My opinion is the dv5t is a better system for the money than the dv5z. Sorry AMD lovers.
     
  12. MightyJD

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    The HD3450 was a major disappoinment in a gaming area anyway. I went for the X4500 to save the loot!
     
  13. sr.agent.riot

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    Turion chips are not slow. I'm currently using a Turion and it paces many Intel chips. And even against Santa Rosa-generation chips, it only marginally lags, depending on the speed of each chip concerned.

    That being said, I'm not an AMD-lover. I use both Intel and AMD chips, depending on a number of factors. And each company has its shining stars - it's never a clear, total victory for one company or another.

    And if you dislike AMD so much, why did you buy an AMD-based machine to begin with, initially singing its praises?
     
  14. NAS Ghost

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    LMAO; I like how you tried to use gaming to prove your point about how slow the CPU is. Also the HD 3450 is comparable to the 8400m GS or the 9300 ( i believe ) and as such, much gaming isnt expected. Whats funny is the HD 3200 is also almost on par with the 8400m GS as well, so that being said, the HD 3200 is almost as good as the HD 3450, which means unless Hybrid xfire is enabled, the HD 3450 is almost useless.
     
  15. sr.agent.riot

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    I also ordered a DV5z, but I only spent about $850, so comparing with what you spent versus what I spent, I think it is a reasonable laptop (especially when I can figure out how to get the Hybrid graphics to work).
     
  16. justinkw1

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    Unfortunately, no. Two discrete NVIDIA GPUs, or a qualified NVIDIA motherboard integrated GPU + NVIDIA discrete GPU (which is called Hybrid SLI, read: http://www.nvidia.com/object/hybridsli_notebook.html) are necessary for a notebook with an SLI configuration.

    The current consumer line of HP notebooks are not sufficient in meeting the requirements for SLI. The motherboard inside of the Intel-based HP notebooks (dv4t, dv5t, dv7t) use Intel motherboard chipsets. The motherboard inside of the AMD-based HP notebooks (dv4z, dv5z, dv7z) use AMD/ATI motherboard chipsets.
     
  17. MightyJD

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    I like AMD, I use to use their chips a while back. Since the Core 2 Duo's came out have not used them. I decided to give them a try again and my opinion was they did not perform to my satisfaction. My wifes 1 year old Inspiron with the T5750 in it performed better.

    I was extremely disappointed by the discrete graphics option I purchased you yourself said that it's "almost useless." My other opinions about the computer were based on comparing the "general" computing performance to the Inspiron w/ the T5750 chip.

    I agree that $850 is a more reasonable price configuration. Personally I think that it's a nice machine in the 600-800 range. But for those who demand more power with a 1000-1200 budget, the dv5t is where it's at!
     
  18. brianstretch

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    Let me guess, your previous notebooks ran WinXP and not Vista?
     
  19. sr.agent.riot

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    That's amusing, considering that the T5750 is like 20 seconds slower than the ZM-80 in wPrime and about 700 points lower on PCMark, for example. I know they are only benchmarks, but those are pretty large discrepancies for a supposed better processor.

    I'm also hesitant to pick up a laptop with an nVidia IGP/GPU in it thanks to their latest goof (and since they won't release information about affected products, I have to assume it could be any of them - and a driver that just turns the fan on more? Great battery life and noise!). And Intel's IGP leaves much for wanting.
     
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    First, why didnt you try 3D06? Also, if the x4500 will work fine for you, why didnt you go with the HD 3200 rather than the HD 3450? You know the X4500 is an IGP so why didnt you go with an IGP in the first place? I believe the whole point of the HD 3450 is the hybrid xfire, not the performance it can provide on its own.

    Well, of course its gonna be less, you dropped the hdd and wifi to save money; its common sense that it would be less.

    Well, in October i plan on possibly getting one ( waiting for something to show up with the hybrid xfire ) and im willing to bet the TM-82 will come close to or possibly even beat my T7700 in benchmarking and real world applications.

    Really? I beg to differ
     

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    Sorry if this comment out of place. I don't think any of the Puma platform notebooks are capable of doing hybrid crossfire/crossfireX at the moment, to my knowledge.

    I just bought a DELL Studio 1536 (yes, it's a 1536, since I am in Japan and DELL sells them here) with HD 3450 clocked at 500 MHz, 64bit wide bus. I also assumed Studio 1536 can do hybrid crossfire, as with many other Japanese who did purchased them.

    However, contrary to the initial reports from Japanese tech websites when Studio lines were announced and 1536 supports hybrid crossfire, they do NOT support and have no plan to support hybrid crossfire at this moment. One of the tech website even ran another post to correct the hybrid crossfire issue. AMD's Japan website promoting Puma platform notebook with Studio 1536 as example also pulled off the hybrid crossfire section.

    So, just to weight in on this, AMD screwed themselves over with crippled Puma platform notebooks, or their launch partners DELL/HP in this case didn't do a proper job. It's kinda sad as Studio 1536 is actually nice with HDMI and eSATA, and no RJ-11 jack (I don't need any :p ).