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    dv9000t deals?now or later?

    Discussion in 'HP' started by spitfire, Nov 30, 2006.

  1. spitfire

    spitfire Notebook Consultant

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    Do you think will hp has better deal with notebooks after x-mas or around it?
     
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    I think the better question to ask yourself is "Can you wait until next year to have your new laptop?" If the answer is yes, then no doubt you should find better deals later especially VISTA is just around the corner!
     
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    For me, I will just wait since Vista is just around the corner :D
     
  4. WeAreNotAlone

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    Well... if you do buy a pre- Santa Rosa platform laptop NOW... or before Vista starts being pre-installed... and it's the same machine you were going to get anyways consider this:

    Systems bought soon /now will have XP installed on it... with a coupon to be able to get the Vista upgrade disc.


    So you will have the CHOICE to run either OS.... also consider that based on previous MS OS releases there is going to be a period in which some apps may NOT work in VISTA, and or hardware /software combo's...

    With XP you have a a largely mature OS, with plenty of people with experiance to fall back on.. and your apps are going to work. With Vista no one is going to know what the heck is going on when something doesn't "work".

    PS: Best time to "buy" a Vista computer will be after they release Service Pack 2... Not the first day it's released buying one of first wave of machines that have it pre-installed.

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  5. FiReWoLf

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    Agreed. Vista SP2 sound a lot better to me, but I think they r going to upgrade the XP SP2 soon?
     
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    To the OP... a better way to say it maybe, or another outlook is you may be able to find better deals on CURRENT hardware, seeing how Vista, and the Santa Rosa machines are soon to be released.

    Santa Rosa platform machines come out... and all the current Core Duo 2 /AMD machines should be dropping down in price... (yesterday's news so to speak) ;)


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    spitfire Notebook Consultant

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    So you mean it might be even cheaper if i get it like in january..start of Feb?
     
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    I saw somewhere that the Santa Rosa platform was going to come out in April 2007.

    Ron
     
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    It's like buying last year models car.... Think about it. ;) If you can time it right..

    Dell, HP, etc have contracts with suppliers on any production run... they have to agree to take so many xyz parts (or units) to get a certain price... The Suppliers (the mfg's of the parts, Compal, Inventec, etc) don't want to have a factory idle, and with each part made the price comes down so they want to mfg xyz part as long as possible...

    When the new models come out, the old models isn't "worth" as much and the costs to mfg the part due to volume and the fact the factory workers at that point know all the things that can go "wrong" is the cheapest...


    PS: For those waiting for the first wave of the new Santa Rosa platfrom machines.... those factory workers, setting up a new line don't know everything that can go wrong= Translation, the first of anything, say 1st year a new model car is made is sort of "buggy", compared to buying the same car in the 3 or 4th year when the "problems", either with production itself, or design flaws are fixed.


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    hmmm than i have couple questions:
    I can wait NO longer than April and the reason i was going to buy earlier - upgrade to Vista :)
    is it worth it to wait?
    if i wait will i get better machine in the same price *maybe 150$ more*?
    so you mean thats maybe the reason of sometimes worth quality, bad parts of products now?
     
  11. FiReWoLf

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    New products r always a "testing product" so sometimes there will have bad parts. It's like a mobile phone, say Sony Ericsson P series. At first P800, then P900 & upgrade to P910 b'coz of some bug in P900. Now there is P990 with better features & fewer bugs than before.
     
  12. WeAreNotAlone

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    While it is true that once bugs are found a new "model" is issued as you posted above, I was talking about during ANY production run of just about anything the first units off the line are being made in a factory in which no-one knows what the hell is going on, vs saying buying an item which has been in production long enough for the "issues" that arise to be corrected.


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    Don't understand some of your questions... but I'll try one more time...
    Buy now or wait? You may find some "Deals" as the current models become "second tier"..... Maybe

    Upgrade to Vista or Pre-installed Vista?... well if you buy a machine with XP on it, you have the CHOICE to upgrade to VISTA.... which is more that likely going to be "buggy" for a while.... Buy a machine with Vista "on-it", and you have NO choice... Some APPS or hardware isn't going to work with VISTA right off the bat, and some may never be made to work.... Consider also that XP has a HUGE installed base of users... and Vista doesn't.

    Better machine? $150 more?.... I would think that the Vista machine would be spec'd out with more ram.. maybe a bigger hd, etc.

    Bad Quality?... well at the start of any production run on a new model you're bound to have problems.... There are also problems on using UNPROVEN components... Parts that have no "history" of working "together"....

    Then add into the mix that mfg sometimes "RUSH" to get models to market during certain time periods (I.E. The Hoildays) New model, rush to get them out, factory running at full speed is going to mean "Quality" is going to suffer.

    Once again think of the 1st year a model of a car comes out.... vs the 3rd or 4th year of production in which "bugs" have been fixed, and the factory personnel knows what the heck is going on...

    1st year for example they bake the paint at 280 degrees, using new materials only to find out the paint is flaking off a year or two later.... Later models are baked for a differant time or temp/ left in the oven longer /short period of time and the paint sticks on the car for 20 years... Stuff like that.

    What I'm saying is the LONGER into a production run, the better the chance you'll get a unit /part that is going to be problem free... vs the first ones that roll off the line.


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