dv9565ea running very hot - Bios F.3D? Help?!

I have had my Hp Pavillion Dv9565ea laptop since septmeber. I am concerend that the CPU (AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-60) is running too hot. I am using the AMD PowerNow! dashboard / HWmonitor to monitor the temperature of the CPU.

When using the HP reccomended power setting (which locks the CPU multiplier to 4x200 = 800mhz) the CPU temperature is idle at 49-53 degrees C and under load (emails, word ect) from 53-58 degrees C.

Using the balanced power mode where the multiplier changes between 4x and 10x, or 800mhz-2000mhz, the system idles at 49-53 degrees C and then under normal use 53-67 degrees, but averaging about 63 degrees C.

Using the High performance power mode where the CPU is clocked at 2000mhz, running email, internet explorer ect the CPU temperature is always 65 up to 77 degrees C.

As you can imagine using anything other than the HP reccomended or power saver settings which locks the CPU speed to 800mhz then the laptop gets very hot and very noisy because the cooling fan speeds up which is very annoying. In addition these power modes slow the system down alot due to the decreased clock speed.

I have read on forums that there is a bios version F.3D for pavillion 6x00 and 9x00 AMD laptops which decreases the temperatures dramatically and also changes how the fan works?

F.25 is all that is avaliable on the HP UK website. My current BIOS version is F.05

I'm very much regretting buying AMD as I hear that the intel core 2 duo pavillions are all but silent - this is annoying because i have always been happy with AMD Athlon 64 in my desktop - very cool and quiet but this Turion is just annoying!

even as I have been writing this message the cpu is hitting 65 degrees!! and the fan is pretty much on high!

any help or advise would be great! I have emailed HP support to see what they have to say...

cheers!

 

Looking at the dv9500z downloads page, F.25 is newer than F.3D. Flash in F.25.

But since your fan is running so high... hmm. How hot is the exhaust from the notebook? If it's hot, I have to suspect that the notebook is generating a lot more heat than it should (motherboard voltage regulation issue, etc). If it's merely warm, I have to suspect that the heatsink was mounted improperly and thus heat can't be transferred from the chip to the heatsink efficiently. That's happened before. Balanced power mode is what you should be using, HP is just making excuses if they're recommending locking the CPU to 800MHz. Heat from my dv9000z, which is nearly the same notebook but with a lowly Turion TL50, just isn't a problem. It's running F.3D. F.25 isn't listed for my notebook, which seems odd since F.3D was the exact same file for the dv9000z and dv9500z series.

F.25 might fix all of this and make my guesswork moot so give it a try and let us know.

 

Hi - thanks for the reply!

The air coming out of the exhaust is very hot - the laptop itself is also hot to touch. the keyboard heats up and becomes quite warm and the underside of the laptop is much hotter. if you move its off the desk the actual desk is very hot to touch - sitting with this laptop on your lap is pretty much out of the question.

I'm on reccomended at the moment - and the fan just kicked in!! thats not happened before! i think your heatsink idea may be a possibility.

Its a shame because this laptop a great system but this heat issue! I was thinking HP wouldn't have put it on sale if it had these problems would they? It might explain the 800mhz Hp reccomended setting...

I have made a custom power setting - its based on balanced but I have set the max cpu speed to 80% or 1600 mhz (I suppose thats a TL-52 speed??) and it still gets really hot and the fan still spins up to the high setting - but not usually over 70oC. Thats all well and good but I'm wasting 400mhz of cpu power which is silly really...

I will see what HP support have to say about the BIOS - i might wit until I go home to update it to F.25 because then I will have a second computer if the flashing goes wrong to help fix it!

How hot does your TL-50 get?

Thanks!

 

Very hot exhaust tells me that the heatsink is doing its job. Something else is wrong. There's no way a TL60 should be generating THAT much heat. Try the new BIOS and if that doesn't work (and it probably won't), HP is going to have to deal with this. I'm pretty certain your notebook has a hardware defect. There's a slight chance it could be your power brick... hmm, try running on battery power, Balanced power setting, and see what happens. That will trim your upper speed a bit so it's not an exact comparison but see what happens.

I can't get to my dv9000z at the moment. I'll do that later.

 

Hi

I had an email today from Hp support:

Thank you for contacting HP Total Care.

From your mail, I understand that the processor is running too hot.

Let me first appreciate the enormous amount of efforts and patience you have put in to resolve this issue.

Let me assist you in this regard.

I would like to inform you that the BIOS version F.3D is not applicable for your Notebook.

Please perform the BIOS update from the below URL:

ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp38001-38500/sp38174.exe

Installation Instructions

1. Download the SoftPaq .EXE file to a directory on your hard drive.
2. Execute the downloaded file and follow the on-screen instructions.

Now you can download and install AMD Turion Utilities from the following link:

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_14098,00.html

NOTE: The URL above will take you to a non HP Web site. HP does not control and is not responsible for information outside of the HP Web site.

This should resolve the issue.

Please let me know if the issue still persist or you have any other issue because it is important that I resolve your issue in a timely manner. I would like to add that we value your precious time and We assure you of our dedicated support, 24 hours, 365 days a year.

Have a Wonderful Day!

Sincerely,

Shandy
HP Total Care

Another HP support email added:

Additionally, you can take few other steps to save the notebook from overheating. The best option to use the laptop is by placing it on a flat surface with proper ventilation so that it minimizes the notebook temperature. Or else place it on a thick flat wooden table/block. Wood absorbs certain amount of heat and minimizes the notebook temperature.

You can clean the vent part of the notebook where the notebook fan is present with a vacuum cleaner for any accumulated dust that could be preventing heat dissipation

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They seem very helpful but I'm not sure the new BIOS f.25 will make any difference but I shall update and see what happens.

I have been running on battery on balanced mode which still clocks the CPU up to 2Ghz and it has been running cooler. it was idling between 39-43 eariler ut when using various browsers it did hit 68 deg, and as i have been emailing and typing this it hit 58-62 which kicked the fan in on high several times.

its at 54 as we speak - just plugging it back in to the mains its hitting 58- 63c! which has just kicked in at full speed!

Hmm I think this heat issue is just a feature of the Turion - does anyone know how the 2Ghz core 2 duo is heatwise?

I'm kinda tempted to do an auction site sale and get the intel.... is that a bit extreme?

any advice welcome!

cheers.

 

Yeah, that's a bit extreme, especially when there are threads discussing Intel notebooks with similar heat issues.

Battery power should be generating the same amount of heat as plugged in at the same clock speed, so the fact that it's running significantly cooler on battery has me wondering what's going on. HP could have a batch of bad power bricks... that'd be the most likely source of failure, if we're diagnosing this right.

F.25 appears to be F.3D plus another fix so let us know how it works for you.

 

Hi thanks for the help - I will borrow my friends power brick tomorrow and see if that makes any difference (he has a dv6000 amd athlon x2) mine is on battery at the moment - alot cooler at 50-52 sometimes 48c but still hitting 60 now and then with the fan kicking in...

If only I could get the temps down by about 5c to stop the fan kicking in so much it would be great!

perhaps a new bios and power brick might do the trick!

I will keep you posted!

Will it be ok to use a different power lead? I would assume its the same for the dv9000 and 6000 models?

cheers.

 

I'm not sure... if it's the same wattage and has the same volt and amp output it ought to work. Check the labels.

Can anyone verify that?

 

Hi,

I have dv6500z with TL-60. I have F.25 bios. I also think that this note book is hot. Particualry, top right cornet of the notebook is very hot. I am also regretting for getting AMD. I had a chance to go with T5250/T5450 for the same price.
I am also monitoring the temps. Following are the current temps. I am presetly opened one browser and typing this.


Hardware Monitor 1.0.6.0
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Mainboard Vendor Quanta
Mainboard Model 30D0 (0xD7 - 0x22C0)

Hardware monitor
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AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-60 hardware monitor

Temperature sensor 0 51°C (124°F) [0x191] (core #0)
Temperature sensor 1 47°C (117°F) [0x181] (core #1)

Dump hardware monitor
Hardware monitor
-----------------------------------------------------
GeForce 8400M GS hardware monitor

Temperature sensor 0 60°C (139°F) [0x3C] (GPU Core)

Dump hardware monitor
Hardware monitor
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TOSHIBA MK1637GSX hardware monitor

Temperature sensor 0 43°C (109°F) [0x2B] (HDD)


Presently, temps are hovering between 48 - 55C. Under moderate load they may go upto 60C. While encoding and buring a dvd, temps rose to 70C.
I have noticed a small improvement when i elevate back of the notebook using a book.

Can you tell me what do you mean by power brick? do you mean adapter.

 

Hi Brian,
Let me know if you are looking for any information about AMD chip in my lapto i.e., sepcs and versions. Thanks for you and Jack for helping us on this.

 

rustum: Yes, power brick = power adapter. Your idle temps look about right, load is higher than I'd like but not as bad as dv9565_AMD is seeing. Do you see any improvement in temps when you run on battery power, enough for that top right corner to cool a bit?

 

Hi,
Sorry for that typo. I mean, top left corner. Not the top right corner. Top left corner gets hot becuase of the hot air.
I haven't removed any bloatware. I am using it as is from HP. May be i should remove some bloatware and tune the vista to reduce the load on the cpu.

 

Following are other set of temps. I have opened 5 IE windows.
Hardware monitor

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AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-60 hardware monitor

Temperature sensor 0 57°C (135°F) [0x1A9] (core #0)
Temperature sensor 1 57°C (134°F) [0x1A7] (core #1)

Dump hardware monitor



Hardware monitor
-----------------------------------------------------

GeForce 8400M GS hardware monitor

Temperature sensor 0 59°C (138°F) [0x3B] (GPU Core)

Dump hardware monitor



Hardware monitor
-----------------------------------------------------

TOSHIBA MK1637GSX hardware monitor

Temperature sensor 0 43°C (109°F) [0x2B] (HDD)

Dump hardware monitor


Processors Map
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Number of processors 1
Number of threads 2

Processor 0
-- Core 0
-- Thread 0
-- Core 1
-- Thread 0


Processors Information
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Processor 1 (ID = 0)
Number of cores 2 (max 2)
Number of threads 2 (max 2)
Name AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-60
Codename Tyler
Specification AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-60
Package Socket S1 (638)
CPUID F.8.2
Extended CPUID F.68
Brand ID 2
Core Stepping
Technology 65 nm
Core Speed 2009.1 MHz (10.0 x 200.9 MHz)
HT Link speed 803.6 MHz
Stock frequency 2000 MHz
Instructions sets MMX (+), 3DNow! (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, x86-64
L1 Data cache 2 x 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache 2 x 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache 2 x 512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size
FID/VID Control yes
max FID 10.0x
max VID 1.150 V
Features XD, VT
K8 Thermal sensor yes
K8 Revision ID 6.0
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 0
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 1
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 2
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 3



You can see that, temps are rising to 60c. Whenever i open a window/start application, temps suddently rise to 60ish. Then they will come back to normal. Any idea why temps are flaring up.

 

After using for couple hours with normal browing and chatting, following are the temps at one point of time:-

Hardware monitor
-----------------------------------------------------

AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-60 hardware monitor

Temperature sensor 0 61°C (141°F) [0x1B7] (core #0)
Temperature sensor 1 63°C (139°F) [0x1B4] (core #1)

Dump hardware monitor



Hardware monitor
-----------------------------------------------------

GeForce 8400M GS hardware monitor

Temperature sensor 0 61°C (141°F) [0x3D] (GPU Core)

Dump hardware monitor



Hardware monitor
-----------------------------------------------------

TOSHIBA MK1637GSX hardware monitor

Temperature sensor 0 45°C (112°F) [0x2D] (HDD)

Are these temps are normal? any suggestions.

 

Hi there –

As suggested by HP support I upgraded to F.25 Bios – what a mistake. It has made things significantly worse.

On idle (plugged in) the cpu is sitting at about 45-48c with the fan on the very low setting.

Under regular load –writing this message its hitting 63c+ and the fan is screaming at that point, dropping and staying on a medium (yet still very annoying speed) under 60c but not going down to the quiet mode until under 50c – which isn’t happening. The cpu is at 55c whilst writing this message now – on F.05 it would have dropped back down by now.

So its running hotter and louder now than it was before – I’m going to revert back to my previous version F.05 asap.

The question is how? Winflash made a backup of it before it flashed the new version. I have a file in the folder called BIOSOLD – its a windows batch file – i’m assuming this is it?

I have emailed HP support back and complained that its made matters worse and what do they suggest now?

I’m getting pretty angry to be honest – first of all it gets way too hot straight out the box and secondly the BIOS update which one would hope would make things better just makes it worse!

I really think HP should replace it with an intel c2d because whilst the intel users are reporting some heat issues, it seems nowhere near as bad as this!
I will keep you updated with any news from HP!

cheers

 

Hi,
Thanks for the update. Under normal working conditions, my temps are cyclying between 50 - 60C. Laptop blows out hot air. I never seen my office laptop blowing this hot air. Can someone conform if these temps are normal for laptops.
Do i need to contact HP support on this. Upon opening any window or small application, temps are flaring up very fast. Is that the designed behavior.

 

Hi - i assume your fan is kicking in at high rpms when its at this temp?

I agree with you - mine also are flaring up very fast which means during normal and pretty non intensive tasks the laptop is getting hot. i would only expect these temps when playing a game! Not just writing an email.

I would assume that the high temps are not a design feature. Like I have said earlier the HP reccomended power setting in vista locks the cpu to 800mhz - the only reason I can think for doing this is to keep the heat and noise down. This is unacceptable because I would have bought a much lower end laptop if I had wanted an 800mhz cpu!!

This is only my opinion however - there may be a valid reason!

 

Update from HP support:

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Thank you for writing back.

As the issue persists even after updating BIOS, the issue seems to be malfunction of the internal fan which needs to be replaced.

As the issue is related to hardware, HP Email support is not feasable to resolve the Hardware issue. Your Notebook needs an onsite Hardware technician to diagonize the issue.

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I am pleased with the swift reply from HP support however I don't think that replacing the fan is going to make one bit of difference.

The fan is working alright - I can hear it blowing out hot air 90% of the time - if they replace the fan I do not think it will lower temps and noise to an acceptable level unless its an industrial sized one!

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A review of the dv6500z is a TL-60 and i quote:

The dv6500z is pretty tame in terms of noise and heat output. The fan stayed off most of the time during basic tasks like browsing the web or typing. Under more stressful activities like running benchmarks or playing games the fan would usually stay on at a quiet, low speed. You could barely hear the fan unless it you had your ear next to the exhaust vent. Sometimes if the heat output peaked, the fan would come on at a faster, more audible speed, but would slow down moments later.

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In this case I cannot see why we are having such heat problems!!

 

I read the review. That is the one of the reason why i went with TL-60 instead of T5240 or may be T5450. I am planning to talk to hp support about this temperature flaring up while running small applications.
Have you seen any issues with power brick. On battery, my temps went to as low as 32C when i kept the laptop idle. On power, the temps are around 36C. It is not still conclusive if they are any issues with power brick.
Anyone with DV6500T please post your temps.

 

Hi

Which power scheme are you using when you have such low temps on battery?


I will run on battery (power saver for a bit and report back to you)

cheers

 

Hi there

I have been running on battery this morning on power saver and the results are:

Cpu= 800mhz

idle: 41c

moderate usage: 55c

On battery, balanced mode its still hitting 60c

still not as low as rustum!

I don't think its a pwer brick issue...

 

i have d same laptop as u. i just raised it up with a book, to save it from frying as of now, no solution has been addressed. and i have mine up for sale, when i do, Hp wont see me for some time to come. so just raise it up, so that d fan part, sucks in fresh full air, it will be cool and maybe yur fan will not kick in.

 

60 deg. is not what i can call hot for a CPU at all, even your nvidia GpU is approx the same. Right now, i have an online game loaded, and loaded couple of internet web page and my AC adapter is connected.
Right now my CpU is at 50deg, i cannot hear the fan turning at all. I have to put my head beside the computer (left) to hear it turning.
Your problem might be the fan that is more noisy than normal or kicking at high speed sooner than normal.

I will load 3dmark now and let you know at the end the reading of my CPU.
59 deg after running 3dmark, and droping fast now once 3dmark no longuer running, 51deg now. droped 8 deg during the time it took to write the last sentence.

I had a Pavillion DV5000 prior to this one with an Intel P4-3.0 that thing was hot like you would not immagine. Just writing email would have the fan to kick at high speed.

Oh should i say that during the 3dmark test, i didnt hear the fan kicking at higher speed neither.

Now the cpu is still at 51deg.

90deg would be hot for these cpu, not 60.

To me, you fan is the problem, its probably unbalanced and making it more noisy while spinning. 60deg is not hot. To me anyway.

Have 5 differents web page open now,and to keep the temperature at 56, i have to keep refresh the page or have to click on any links on these pages for a refresh of the data, if not, it is droping back to 51-53 deg. I do have an online game loaded while testing this, of course, the game is idling since i am not playing with it. My son i the one playing games on this computer not me, but i can hear the music in the background while writing this.

One thing i noticed, my graphic card is nvdia 7150 and yours is the one above the one i got, 8350 i think ... this might be what is causing the increase in temperature... My CPU is TL-59, pavillion dv9612ca

 

loaded pcmark04 and the highest point the cpu came is 61deg.
Its easier to monitor the cpu temp with pcmark04 because you can check the coolnquiet dashboard while the pcmark04 does his test.
I could hear the fan spinning a degree higher at 60c but definitely not high speed.

 

yes i have tried rasing it up with a book and yes it runs a bit cooler but that really isnt the point is it. HP didn't include a book for me to rest it on therefore I shouldnt have to use one!!

I too am tempted to sell mine but whether or not anyone would want it and also considering the cost of the loss and then the extra cost of going core 2duo is not going to be cheap!

grabber grabbs

Your TL-59 and Geforce 7150 isnt as hot as my TL-60 and Geforce 8400M Gs.

Like you say your CPU only hits 60c when running a benchmark - otherwise its at about 50c when you 'have an online game loaded, and loaded couple of internet web page and my AC adapter is connected.'

I have been using a couple of web pages open, live messenger ect and my temps have hit 65c, currently 55 with the fan on No playing online games ect.

The Geforce GPU is at 72c.

 

Man, that remind me of my last Dell latitude 8000 i had with a Intel centrino 1.7 that thing was hot like fire. I had a powerful video card also, that might have contribute the the heat.

Problem with these laptop seller, no matter if they put a powerful cpu and/or powerful graphic card, the cooling system stay the same most of the time, and sometime the biggest speed configuration may suffer of heat problem.

 

Hi,
I am aslo working on laptop elevating it from back using a book. This way at least we can keep the temps down by 5C.
These are the my latest observations while using the laptop keeping it eleveated from the back using a book.

1. While on battery, after keeping the laptop for idle for some time my temps are 33 and 37C. With AC adapter connected, my idle temps are 36 and 40C. There is a little 3-4C difference with the battery.

2. Under normal working conditions temps are hovering between 45 to 56C. When i am buring/encoding dvd's, temps went above 60C. Even my hard drive temp went up 48C.

3. One more thing i have observed, whenever i open/click a link in browser, i can see a sudden rise in the load on processor for a moment(50 to 70%) and soemtimes even close to 90. I can see a similar variation in temps also. Any idea why does the cpu load is going up fast.

4.We need to find out the reason for temps flaring up fast. Why do they raise so fast from 47C to 55C while opening a new links in the browser. I can see temps rising even when i scolling the page up and down also.

Your inputs are appreciated.

 

Hi -

Yes I agree most notebooks use the same cooling system which is fine but the 9565 isnt THAT high end. There is an intel core 2 duo at 2.2Ghz with the 8600m Gs and whilst there are a few threads about the heat that comes off them it seems nowhere near as bad as what is happening with the TL-60. I wonder how the new TL-64 and 66 are behaving in the 96x0 series?

One thing I notice is that my TL-60 is Trinidad core (95nm) and rustum was yours Tyler (65nm)? which might explain why your temps are slightly lower than mine.

rustum - i too can see my clock going up to 2ghz when scrolling up and down a webpage - i dont know why but i managed to increase my cpu temp by 10c just scrolling up and down this page!

I am going to phone HP support in the week and see what they have to say about this issue.

The thing is (which i think is odd) is that the laptop seems to be at 100% of its performance just using the a web browser! this cannot be normal.

 

I managed to get my dv9000z with TL50 and GeForce 6150 to hit 59C, but it quickly cools down to ~40C. I think it's a 90nm core, can't remember. The fan never spins up high. The notebook barely gets warm. This is with 64-bit Vista, 4GB RAM and a 7200RPM HD.

dv9565_AMD: I didn't know you had a GeForce 8400 in there too. Between that and a 90nm CPU I can see where your notebook could get a little toasty. If your CPU load in Task Manager stays high even when you're not doing anything I have to wonder if you have a virus/worm/spyware infection. Constant high CPU load with your particular configuration would produce the symptoms you describe.

 

Hi ,
I have a 65nm processor. I have alsotested the scrolling thing in IE. When i keep scrolling up and down continuosely, i can see CPU load going up to 50 - 70% and temps rising towards 60C.

Have you tried elevating the laptop using a notbook or a chill mat. Please update me after calling hp support.
When i chatted with them they sent me a mail with two suggestions.
1. Power dran. disconnecting power and battery. Hold the power on buttonr for 2 min.
2. Resetting my bios.

 

I have 65nm TL-60 with GeForce 8400. My temps are hovering between 45 to 60. I am using the notebook by elivating it back using a book. Do you think these temps are normal. When i keep the laptop ilde for some time, temsp are going to 35C. Do you see any downside to use notebook elevated from back.

 

I have 74 processes running with 49% memory usage including HWMonitor, core temp , IE and HP total care.
Can some one with C2D conform the temps they are getting when they scroll up and continousely. How much the cpu load changes when they are refreshing / opening a links in IE.

 

Those temps look very good to me, especially with a GeForce 8400 in there. The fan speeds up a bit at 55C which halts the temp rise shortly thereafter. The fan doesn't run at full speed until... hmm, can't remember.

 

My cpu is on 0-2% when idle and he clock goes down to 800mhz - I'm sure that there is nothing using the cpu like spyware ect.

Rustum I have never seen my cpu as low as 35c - apart from when i switch it on from cold before it has reached its usual 45-48c idle.

I flashed my BIOS back to F.06 (the version it ships with) and the temps have gone down a few degrees and the fan comes on slightly less but the temps are still reaching 62c when using internet browser.

Rustum I cannot think of any downside to using your laptop elevated with a book apart from the fact that you shouldnt have too!

The TL-50 user (thats 1.6Ghz?) this is possibly the reason why your temps are lower because its running at 400mhz less than our TL-60's. If i set my max cpu speed to 80% (1.6hz) then the highest I got was 57c and the fan came on to a medium speed.

I shouldnt have to underclock my max cpu speed or elevate it with a book in order to keep heat and noise under control.

I think I will start a threat asking for core 2 duo users to post some temps so we can compare the heat and noise from the AMD and Intel versions.

 

I have recently purchased a HP 6601ax which has a Geforce 8400M GS and a Turion 1.9Ghz (65nm). I noticed that the temps are quite hot, particularly when the power adapter is plugged in.

* Battery under full load the CPU gets to about 60 degrees and HDD to about 46 Degrees.
* AC Power adapter under full load the CPU gets over 80 degrees and the HDD to 60!!! That seems far too hot.

The laptop itself never gets much hotter than warm to the touch on top and cooler than hot water on the bottom. The power brick gets quite hot, though nothing has melted..yet! The fans are very quiet, but I can feel the hot air once it starts to warm up. Maybe this is just the HP design?

I'm thinking of ringing HP since it can't be good for a laptop to get that hot connected to AC power. Is there a quality power adaptor one can buy that stays cool and delivers quality power?

Are you guys running Aero glass? It will consume a lot of resources just doing everyday tasks..does turning it off make a difference to your temps?

 

A TL60 running 1.6GHz will use a lower core voltage than a TL50 so it should burn even less power than my CPU. A TL60 running full speed will burn a little more power than my TL50 though. Core voltage has a much greater effect than clock frequency.

beyondtoo: the temps you're seeing on battery are the correct ones. Until the CPU hits 55C the fan barely spins, and before BIOS F.3D/F.25 it didn't spin at all, so I'd be surprised if the CPU temp didn't hit the 55C-60C range.

 

Thats interesting - my TL-60 at 2ghz is 1.075 V. At 1.6ghz its 0.975.

My fan spins all the time and F.25 BIOS seems to make it run hotter! As well as this the fan is on more often and for longer - I'm not sure what it was meant to improve.

Going back to F.06 seems better to me anyway.

I am running windows areo glass but I think that the GPU clocks itself into a desktop mode of about 100mhz so that shouldnt be causing the issue. In addition when areo is off on power saver cpu temps are about the same.

I dont think the heat is caused by the GPU - I think its the TL-60. Pretty much all intel core 2 duo users have the 8600 and they dont have these extreme heat issues.

 

I have a TL-60 with F.3D & my fan runs slow, quiet & my temps even after gaming, never even reach 60 C anymore.

 

What program are you using to monitor the temps?

 

ButchN

Its interesting to see the F.3D users are getting better temps - I dont think F.25 is an improved F.3D because my temps went up with the F.25 installed.

Maybe it is the difference between the 6000 and 9000 series, different motherboards ect. I would have thought the 9000 would be cooler seeing as there is extra space for cooling ect but this doesnt seem to be the case.

On battery mine is slightly cooler maybe by 2c on idle but it still heats up to 63 when web browsing ect...

 

Today i ran few tests to check the temps on my dv6500z notebook with tl-60
Wprime 32m speed test ran for 44 sec. Temps are under 60C.
Wprime 1024m stability test ran for 1320sec. This test runs cpu at 100% continuosely for 1320 sec. My temps slowley creeped upto 70C from 50C by the time test finishes.
Also ran the pcmark05 test. During this test cpu temps are around ~62C for most of the time. Couple of times they hit the 70c. System returned 3720 score for this test.
Idle temps are around ~43C. On battery, it can go down to 37C. Under normal working conditions, temps are hovering between 45 - 60C.
Are these temps are normal?

Rather the temps, the worrying thing is amount of hot air it blowing throw vents. When temps reaches above 60C, the air is bit hot. Temps flares up pretty fast.

 

Can some explain me what are the numbers one can expect for muliplier, voltage and frequency with respect to load and heat in cpu at different load conditions.

 

Im afraid I dont really understand how it works - from earlier discussion it seems it is the lower core voltage that affects the heat given off not the MHZ.

i think somone said a TL-60 at 1.6ghz will put out less heat than a TL-50 at 1.6 because you need less volts to power it.

Either way the TDP is only 35w for the TL-60 and the C2D T7250 is 31w - not a massive difference in heat output, but perhaps the C2D has less issue running programs at 800mhz than the TL-60 so clocks up less and therefore in real world performance means less heat and noise... dont know...

An update on my temps....

I am using BIOS F.06 and so far im quite pleased. now im playing music, word processing, web browsing and msn and core 1 is 47c core 2 is 51c, the fan is quiet until about 57-59c then kicks in but swiftly slows down again without much fuss.

Idle temps have been about 44c.

However today core 2 hit 70c - not sure what it was doing at the time, but whilst web browsing, particualr scrolling down a page makes it heat up - just hit 60c for a few moments whilst I was reading the forum but now has gone back down to 48.50c.

I would give F.06 a go if you want to... its doing well for me.

The only thing is though my windows areo is running a bit choppy - i have a good few programs open and the GPU core hit 75c today just doing alot of window switching. I think the slowness is because of the GPU clocking down to 100mhz when in desktop and it has to clock up when i press the flip3D buttons - after that it speeds up and runs pretty smoothy but i just wondered if anyone esle has that?

I'm going to keep running F.06 for a few days and keep you posted.

 

Hi,
Temps looks ok for me. Other thing about my notebook is, i can not use it on my lap. The bottom of the laptop under the left palm rest and track pad are hot. Do you know why? i mean, i can not use this on my lap. it is definately hot. My hdd temp is around 44C.
Have you thought about other alternatives to counter the temps like under volting the cpu or restricting the cpu to 80%.
Is there any way to calm down my Gpu such that it does bare minimum as in IGP's. I am not going to play games as of know.

 

Hi - my gpu is running areo so once you go into flip3D the clock speeds up to run it because i suppose its a full screen 3d application. Thats why areo can seem choppy when you first go into flip 3D because it is clocking up - all subsequent flipping is smooth until you go back to desktop.

I have made a power setting based on the balalced profile where i set cpu max to 80% which is 1600mhz - thats 1v on the core.

This doesn't make a massive amount of difference to my temperature and like i say i shouldnt have to run at TL-50 speeds or else I'd have got one! I'm sticking to regular balanced profile...

I'm thinking about changing to a penryn intel core 2 duo dv97x0 when they come out.... 45nm cpu is bound to be alot cooler!!

 

Hi,
Can you explain little bit about flip 3D. Is there a way to down clock GPU. I am not playing games. As of now, i would like my GPU act as a IGP such that it won't generate much heat.

If heat is concerning you, may be you need to consider something else. DV series is not good when it comes to heat aspect. Bottom of the laptop under the left palm rest and under the mouse pad is hot after working for some time. This is more annoying them CPU temps.
What are your thoughts about under volting cpu instead of using them at 80%. I am looking for complete steps to under volt my laptop.

 

The HD is under the palm rest. Nothing else could be generating heat there.

 

Hi Brian,
My laptop gets very hot under the palm rest. Palm rest area is warm. My hdd temps went to 55C when i am downloading some game. Now, they are around 49C. There is a small went under the palm rest area where it is spitting lot of heat. Is this normal? My hdd is from Toshibha.

 

Thats quite normal for most HP notebooks. The HDD's tend to run at a higher temperatures than other manufacturers. It used to be hotter, my friend had a Pentium M(21W TDP) based V2000 and it used to get toasty quite often(idle ~55C). The new series are much better in that respect. But still the HDD temps are a bit on the high range.

As for as the cpu is concerned I havent had any issues with my V3000z(compaq version of the dv2000z). It typically idles around 35 - 40C(fan off bios F37) or ~30C(fan on bios F39). being a 14" notebook I would have expected both the dv6 and the dv9 series to be cooler running, but doesnt seem to be the case always. The GPU stays around 70 - 75C during normal use and while gaming its ~100C. The HDD temps are relatively constant ~45(idle) to 55(read/write).