envy 14 is going to be discontinued?

HP is offering $500 coupon for envy 14

My guess is , they probably have new design or new line so they have to clear up remain stock

 

Where is this coupon?

Found it. Awesome deal. You must be right. If I could justify buying another laptop, I'd do it.

 

1. Click here to start at HP Home direct store
2. Select Customize & Buy button in the right
3. Select Intel Core i5-580M Dual Core Processor (2.66GHz, 3MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 3.33GHz +$150
4. Upgrade to 6GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm) +$100
5. Apply $500 coupon code: NB375945

Cheapest ENVY 14 BEATS edition deal: $1,399.99 - $300 coupon code (expires after limited uses) = $899.99 with FREE shipping and included 2-year warranty.

OR

To get our recommended ENVY 14 Beats Edition Laptop with Core i7, follow these steps):

1. Click here to start at HP Home direct store
2. Select Customize & Buy button in the right
3. Select Intel Core i7-720QM Quad Core processor (1.6GHz, 6MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 2.8 GHz +$200
4. Choose 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 Graphics [HDMI] - For Quad Core Processors +$0
5. Select 640GB 7200RPM Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection +$50
6. Apply $500 coupon code: NB375945

This Core i7 deal: $1,399.99 - $500 coupon code = $899.99 with FREE shipping and included 2-year warranty.

 

i wish amazon would go lower than $930 : (

 

i just saw that coupon too....darn its tempting. it was $300 off coupon yesterday, now $500....maybe by the end of the week theyll have $600 off??? LOL

 

Do you guys know if I can get an upgrade on the coupon I used to buy the beats that I bought less that 2 weeks ago? I only used a $300 so it would be cool to get a better deal. Although I could just return it and repurchase a new one.

 

If you call HP and pretend you are considering doing just that, they will very likely offer you a large portion of the difference. When I bought my Envy, they were willing to give me $180 since I regretted ignorance of the $200 coupon available at the time. But as I wanted to revise my configuration, we ultimately scrapped the entire order.

Petp, what kind of computer do you have now?

Maybe USB 3.0 and blu-ray capability will come to the 14.

 

I ordered the Envy 14 beats last week which came out to $1319, after the $300 coupon its $1019, contacted HP and they gave me $100 credit (although it will take 2 weeks to process) so it will come out to $919 before tax...still not as good as re-ordering but its not worth for me to go through that hassle to save ~$30 and get a little more RAM since it has to be $1399 to get the full coupon anyways..and I doubt the coupon will last till then since its only 250 uses versus their usual 600 uses

 

I ended up with the standard beats edition with a core i7 for gaming needs and all the work I do on my computer for school/work. I did not upgrade it past the normal 4gb of Ram because I can upgrade that myself, and I got the 500GB HD because I was willing to do the SSD myself. So far I must say that I do like this computer a lot and I would be concerned with getting a new model from HP as it has trouble with build quality. I really wanted blu-ray playback and I also wanted a cheaper SSD option. I would love to see a better screen, but we are all on that bandwagon. Other than that I do not know if it would be worth the additional cost that a new brand will bring.

Cheers,
Chris

 

These coupons come and go. I bought mine about 2 months ago with a $400 coupon. I don't think it means anything.

 

true but its also the fact that the Envy's are going out of stock everywhere and they've been offering non-stop coupons since the last 2 months. I think they're going to have a refresh rather than discontinue it, the Envy line is really popular and im sure they've made plenty of money from it..I don't see a reason for them to discontinue it

 

I took the OP's suggestion to be that the 14 would be discontinued, not the entire line. And I guess it's possible that just the 14 would be refreshed. I doubt the 14 will go. That's the model that seems to have received the best reviews.

 

I sure hope they refresh the envys. Do you guys think that they will be priced much higher if they do get refreshed? Im really tempted to use this $500 coupon but if a better one could possibly be coming out Il wait and get that one, assuming the price doesn't up. And if they do come out with refreshed ones, I sure hope theyl become available in Jan.

 

..I just bought my beats edition in December and should be recieving the laptop tommorow. Now I am considering bringing back my computer I waited nearly 1 month to get just to get the $500 coupon.

I payed about $1087 for my beats edition envy and it was spec'd with everything standard besides the i580m i equipped it with. Now I can order the same computer with an i580m but also 6 gb RAM. The total will come up to roughly $979. Should I go ahead and bring it back for the $500 coupon? Is it worth it?

 

I did something similar minus with the minus 300 off coupon. Hopefully they can give me 150 off without me having to send it back. This way I can get a companion monitor.

 

Im actually on the phone with them right now to see if i can be credited something ..let me know what happens on your end.

 

I wouldn't be surprised to see the $999 base price stay. I think they very deliberately want to be the brand with a premium laptop that starts under $1,000.

 

That would be great if they kept base price at $999. With the new processors from intel, maybe other new features (like USB 3.0) and hopefully a Radiance screen or something equivalent, HP could have one heck of a laptop in the new envy14.

 

But even if they keep the new envy (assuming there will be one) at the $999 base price, I hope they don't start out at an i3 again -_-. I'm aiming for an i5 2540 with a price of no more than $1100. Do you guys think that's reasonable?

Oh and btw, seems like the $500 coupon is used up already. That was fast.

 

hi, I have just tested the coupon, it doesn't work for me. It says invalid coupon when I check out. Any ideas?

 

coupon expired already, guess too many people already used it?

 

To be fair, those reviews were based on a version of the Envy 14 HP either can't or has no desire to continue making. Without the MacBook Pro comparable screen, the Envy is simply an overpriced DV4. If they can't find screens to match the specs and other aspects of the build, then they absolutely SHOULD discontinue it and focus on the 15 where maybe they will have an easier time getting screens.

 

To be fair, we should note that this is more than a pure matter of screen resolution. The Envy 14 starts lower than the Pro despite having other specs that the Pro lacks or that would double the Envy's start price. I don't see why HP has to have a comparable screen to justify starting out at $800 less. The Envy 14 is more like a MacBook Pro that's priced like a standard MacBook, which is of course an ugly white plastic box with lesser hardware.

I think you mean the dm4. There are significant differences, although HP has made them look too much alike. You will get the same HD and display, but you won't get a quad core option or a starting dedicated GPU. You won't get a backlit keyboard. Somehow the dm4 starts with more RAM. And once you take customization into account, it's clear the Envy wins.

There is more to the Envy 14 than a 1600 x 900 screen resolution.

 

Bottom line: without the option for a high-res screen, the Envy 14 cannot be a Macbook Pro competitor. Doesn't matter the price difference, doesn't matter the customization options under the hood. And if HP is targeting the Macbook line rather than the Macbook Pro line in terms of offered capabilities, they've already lost.

I expect that this is all needless hand-wringing, though, and that HP will show us something worthy of my wallet in the upcoming days.

 

I completely agree. I think people are stressing the screen resolution a bit too much and are not looking at basically everything else that it triumphs at. Another thing I realize is that people compare the trackpad to a Macbook Pro's trackpad. That is mainly the reason why it is so disliked. Although the trackpad has its imperfections, it doesnt mean its bad altogether. Its just that its not as good as the Macbooks. A 1600 x 900 screen res. would be nice but it is certainly nothing to discontinue a model over.

 

So youre saying that nothing else really matters besides the screen resolution on a computer? Hmm...

 

I actually did hate my trackpad, but it works much better thanks to the amateur software and whatever has happened over time. lol It no longer ceases to depress, which used to drive me up a wall. Not a deal-breaker.

Schismal, who has already lost? HP's Envy already beats Macbook in offered capabilities. The Envy 14 seems to be somewhere between both if that's an acceptable possibility, but I guess the similarity in appearance to the Pro requires the same screen type AND more advanced features for $800 less, or it's a total loss. That price difference is steep and should not be swept aside. I do think the Envy is a great product for folks who would just as soon buy a regular MacBook or are not into the Pro primarily for its screen resolution.

 

Actually, I am a previous Macbook Pro user. I had the latest macbook pro 15 inch that was not unibody and had a button along with the trackpad around 2008. With that said, Im assuming I should be "used" to a nice display but quite the contrary I dont care for it and do not mind just having a decent screen.

But whats the name of that trackpad software ...I might be needing that when I get my Envy hopefully today lol.

 

No, I'm saying that if HP deliberately cripples itself in any area by not even offering a hardware component equal to that of the Macbook Pro, it is not a true competitor. The screen is a hugely important aspect of any laptop, and not offering an equivalent one means that the Envy is inferior to Apple's top offering. If you ask HP, I highly doubt this would be their aim with the Envy line, which is why I do not expect it to be an issue after the refresh.

I never said the Envy wasn't a great product for those in a certain budget range. I did say that several hardware aspects are inferior to the Macbook Pro, and that HP must address this if they want to seriously market this line as a competitor, regardless of price.

I applaud giving the consumer choice and thereby catering to a variety of budgets and needs. But the fact remains that offering only an inferior screen will be a dealbreaker to many who will see this limitation as evidence of an inferior product.

 

Im not saying you are wrong, because the screen is also an important part of the laptop. Youre right, however, with your reasoning it is safe to assume that the Macbook Pro is also inferior to an Envy. The Macbook Pro lacks in power and performance that the Envy has where as the Envy lacks in screen display in which the Macbook Pro has. So its either they are inferior to eachother or not at all. You cant base inferiority upon merely screen display.

However, I can see where your argument comes into play for the many individuals that are not quite looking for a computer with performance or for lack of better terms, not quite aware of computer performance. In order for an Envy to be put in the limelight for others to speculate hype over it, its outer appeal including the display HAS to equal the Macbook Pro or better. People are more favorable to the hype around Macbook Pros and other Apple products. If the Envy wants to compete, they have to please the "hyped" consumers as well. In this case, yes the Envy can be considered "inferior"; not because the Macbook Pro is a better computer, but because people prefer its appeal.

 

Well, I would expect more people to notice a difference between the low-res Brightview and high-res Radiance equivalent than to notice the difference between a Core i7-620M in the MP and, say, the Core i7-720QM in the Envy.

I think we're in agreement that it's in the best interests of HP to offer components superior to the Macbook Pro across the board--screen, processor, graphics, memory, hdd, etc. I think this will happen with the Sandy Bridge refresh.

 

Then you are taking a zero-sum approach. If the screen resolution is not as good, the laptop is an inferior product.

Yet the Envy has hardware advantages over the MacBook and the Pro. Why give full weight to one of the Pro's?

It would be great if HP offered a higher-res screen, but I don't think it's the be-all and end-all of the product.

Do you consider that the MacBook Pro 17 is not a "true competitor" with the Envy 17 since it lacks blu-ray capability, a number pad, a 3D option, a 120Hz option, USB 3.0 and eSATA? Has it gone quad core yet? I wouldn't make that claim, but I would see it as more justified than reducing the competitiveness just to screen resolution.

I honestly don't think HP just wants the Envy to be a Macbook Pro. They always make it seem that they want to offer a high-end laptop at a much lower price, and since they do, I do think they can afford to have some features that are not as good. God knows Apple can.

That and folks who are not primarily concerned with high-res.

Honestly, it wasn't clear exactly what you were or were not saying, which is why I asked.

Yes, but I have to wonder how many people that really means. I tend to think most of the high-res hounds are also the same folks who know something about performance, so I'm not entirely sold that the display is a total deal-breaker. The screen is now low-res, either. That is average.

You did say you felt the Pro beat the Envy where several hardware issues were concerned, but you have not stated anything outside of the display.

 

Yep definitely in agreement. But see the thing is HP actually does do that, besides the display lol.

Processor: The Macbook Pros highest icore isnt even quad from what I have heard. (Can do a little research on that)

Graphics: Macbook Pro comes at the highest an Nvidia card with 512mb dedicated memory. Envy 14 comes with an ATI which is just as good but does not have as flush switchable graphics capabilities but with 1gb dedicated memory.

Memory: Both are equal in this case.

HDD: Macbook Pro is 320gb? 500gb with 5400 rpm for a couple more hundred. Envy 14 comes with 500gb standard with 7200 rpm.

Basically, in order to get a Macbook to equal the performace put in an Envy I can buy 2 Envy 14s for that same price.

 

You're assuming all of these components are of equal importance to the typical user. I disagree.

The processors in both machines are similarly fast. The graphics capabilities are fairly equivalent. The difference between 5400 and 7200 rpm isn't terribly noticeable for most tasks.

What is far more noticeable to the average user? Build quality, screen quality, and battery life.

The Envy line will probably never challenge the MP line in terms of battery life. But they can have equivalent or superior screens, and they can come close to meeting the MP's build quality and keyboard feel. Combine those two features with the minor hardware benefits you pointed out above, and you have an extremely competitive product. Without them, IMO, you don't. And this is why I rate the importance of a good screen so highly.

 

I like how SOME PEOPLE just minimize the downsides of the MBP in comparison to the Envy. No difference between 5400 and 7200 hdd's? No difference in dual core to quad core?? Really??? I guess you are talking about the average users who only use their computers to surf the web huh? Yes, let's all use MBP's to go on Google -_-. And what's wrong with Envy's build quality and keyboard feel? Before you nitpick at the Envy for it's imperfections, go pick on Dell or Asus who can't even attempt to build a decent looking laptop in the first place.

 

Not only what lc235 said is true but the real issue here is you are not getting what you deserve price wise from a premium laptop (Macbook Pro). Sure it is as fast when you first get it but the difference is what it can take and endurance in the long run. Like lc235 said, average consumer is just surfing the web. But you are completely correct regarding average consumer looking for quality build, screen quality, and battery life. That is why I mentioned what I did in my previous post. Although those qualities are very important, it does not make that computer superior to the other. Those qualities you mention do not make a Macbook Pro superior to an Envy. As far as your comparisons on hardware, I will conclude by saying that I know my fair share of information on computers, I am no computer geek but I do know that what you claim to be equivalent and fairly similar can be heavily debated to be false.

 

We all have varying opinions, and I've said my piece on this. Arguing about it is silly.

To respond to the rest of your post would be to repeat my last one. But on this point, I have to disagree. I have an HP Mini purchased more than a year and a half ago. It has a 10.1" screen and a 1366 x 768 resolution. Call me a screen snob if you want, but there's no way I would work on any computer that stretches that same resolution across a nearly 15" screen. And I certainly would never pay a premium for the opportunity.

 

I agree with this statement, not everyone is looking for the same thing, so it doesn't make sense to say that the Envy is not worthy of a Macbook opponent only becuase of the screen. This is an opinion. I didn't even consider the screen quality when I was trying to decide between the Macbook pro and the Envy. In the end, I just decided to get the Envy+an iPad =D

As far as I know, you don't have to pay any premium for the brightview screen

 

+1 I almost bought an MBP. I didn't know about an Envy. When I read about it, the decision was made.

 

Even with the Radiance screen, the Envy 14 still can't be claimed as a direct competitor to the MBP 15 - considering that they're in different price ranges.

 

Soooo I'm sick of hearing about MBP's haha.

HP's "red tag sale" ends after tomorrow! And I'm waiting impatiently for something to happen. If hp doesn't do anything to the Envy line this week, we will know that the following doesn't mean anything in the future:
-Relatively dramatic price cuts
-Inventory running out in multiple places at about the same time (hp, best buy, and frys I think)
-Lower tier pavilion line (dv7t) with rumored upgrades
-Envy needs this upgrade to stay competitive with other laptops getting an immediate upgrade (lenovo's 560p, asus's n53, etc)

That's all I can come up with now. So anybody else waiting as anxiously and impatiently as me? ><"

Edit: Nevermind, news just came in that hp will only update the dv6/7 and envy 17. Sigh.

 

Yup, judging by the fact that they are only updating the ENVY 17 with the SB processor makes me think that the envy 14 is gonna be discontinued or replaced. Guess we will have to wait and see if there are any further announcements.

 

are they going to replace the other bigger half of their line? or is it just the ones that were leaked? or are they going to cancel the other half? I never liked 14'' lets just go with 15'' and up

 

I wouldn't be surprised to see the 15 return.

 

guys
i am from kuwait and i want to take advatege off these crazy price slashes
specially the 500$ cut off the i7

can any one sells me this through ebay ? will pay him extra for his troubles + the shipping costs

 

Unless I'm not aware the $500 coupon ended a day ago...it was limited to a certain number which has been met. Keep looking for other coupons...although the new chips should be out soon, so not sure if HP is still gonna offer any...we'll see.


KJ

 

mmm will sure do
will still need help though
the prices over here are CRAZY
regular retail price for it is 1500$....

so gonna get it with one of the copune and add ssd + slice battery = peeeeerfect
as soon as it get here and i migrate my data from my current pavillion ( build quality STINKS ! )
i am installing vmware and hackintoshing my way into the xcode

 

I hate my mba now.
I didn't buy the Envy 14 because my eyes are picky after I bought the stupid mba 11

I tried, samsung QX410, asus n43.....both of them have horrible screen compare to mba 11. Their color wash out, not enough contrast, etc.

Then, i also read notebookcheck review, it mentions envy 14 has average screen which is equal to asus n43. They have similar contrast and soso color spectrum

If envy 14 offers other better screen, I probably pay for it already

 

guys any news about WHDI support ?

the feature looks amazing !

 

The $379.99 compaq CQ62Z series has the same screen as the envy 14 lol...just saying we have the right to demand a better screen on their "top of the line laptop".


Ya seriously bring the E15 back with a 900p good-contrast-brightness screen (1080p look way to small on a 15.6 and recent games probably can't handle native res with good framerates).