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    extremely hot hdd

    Discussion in 'HP' started by littleasian, Aug 16, 2007.

  1. littleasian

    littleasian Notebook Consultant

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    Hey guys.

    I have a new hp dv6500, and i installed NHC in it to monitor cpu/hdd temps and activity, and i noticed taht my hdd is extremely warm (55 is when the alarm goes off, mine hovers around 50). Im curious as to whether or not other people on these forums have experienced this problem. I can feel the heat through the left side palmrest, and while it doesn't get super duper hot, its still noticable.

    anybody know any ways to lower it and bring it to a more mangable 30-40 C temperature?

    thanks.
     
  2. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    50-55C is not normal for a drive, and that is lethally close to the temperature in which the drive will start to fail.
     
  3. deedeeman

    deedeeman Notebook Deity

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    mine always hovers around 48~53C, sometimes up to 55.......right now its 51C..........dont know why they go up that high
     
  4. sonyfxa36

    sonyfxa36 Notebook Evangelist

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    its like 79 degrees where i live so heres the temps im getting

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  5. ahl395

    ahl395 Ahlball

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    Can some one please tell me what 50 degrees C is in F, thank you, by the way mine runs around 105 in F, is that is failing range?
     
  6. sonyfxa36

    sonyfxa36 Notebook Evangelist

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    its like 124F
     
  7. ahl395

    ahl395 Ahlball

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    ok, thank you
     
  8. brianstretch

    brianstretch Notebook Virtuoso

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    Ask Google "50C to F" (without the quotes). Google will do all sorts of conversions with that pattern.

    Unfortunately, depending on the HD brand and series, HDs do get that hot in HP (and many other) notebooks. The new Seagate 5400.3 I put in my V2000z stays below 50C (and it's VERY quiet). The latest generation drives like that put out a little less heat but the big problem is no or inadequate ventilation of the HD bay. I don't know how to correct that design issue. I'd say HP needs to put a spring-loaded heat pipe on the top surface of the HD but the HD's sticker is in the way and it'd add too much weight anyhow. Plus there's grounding issues if you introduce metal there instead of plastic.

    (Yes, I'm awake at 4am. Damn bats keep finding their way into my home through the ventilation system and they're too stupid to find their way out unless I trap them in a small room and open a window. Don't know how they're getting in.)
     
  9. ArthurofChicago

    ArthurofChicago Notebook Consultant

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    What speed is your HD?

    HP does eem to be having a problem with the issue, though it might be a HD quality control problem combined with a design challenge. I had a 7200 rpm 100GB, I did not check on the manufacturer. Clearly most machines are OK but obviously there is a real problem.


    My HD alarm went off and tech support said to return the machine, as I was within 21 days I opted to return.

    Might be interesting to start a poll on HD temp issues. Might be a recall issue for HP. I am trying a again (with fingers crossed) with a new 9500t machine set to ship 8-22-07 and will post my results.

    There are several threads out there on this issue, mine was:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=139991
     
  10. Ackeron

    Ackeron Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Well, I know my old desktop Maxtor is a toasty little puppy; runs from about 45c idle to 55c load. My main drive (Seagate) right below the Maxtor purrs along at 38c and hits maybe 45c max. But this is a desktop we're talking about here so yeah.

    Laptops wise I've gone through 3-4 different drives. A 30gb Hitachi, an 80gb Samsung (x2), and finally my 160gb Seagate. All of these in my old Acer (one at a time of course!) never went past 47c (hot weather + installing stuff, etc...), and even then I was a little nervous.

    One thing you could do (it may or may not allay your fears) is install that program Speedfan sonyfxa36 screenshotted (I also use it). Under the S.M.A.R.T tab you can select your drive and then hit the "Perform an in depth analysis of this hard disk."

    I'm not 100% sure how accurate the information presented is, but it sure seems to be a decent source of information.
     
  11. vhmike73

    vhmike73 Notebook Enthusiast

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    My primary drive (and if doing any work with it, even the secondary bay) would normally run over 50*C...so I got a notebook cooler (Zalman NC-1000) that my dv9000T rests on all the time, and that got the HDD down to the low 40s C under most operation. This seems to be HDD manufacturer independent- I've had the Hitachi 160 GB drives (factory) in that bay, plus a WD 160GB drive and now a WD 250GB drive- and without the cooler running, the temps shoot right back up within a short time. Cooler on, temps reduce back to the low-mid 40s C, depending on what I'm doing.

    It would be handy if HP would build an active cooling feature into their Expansion Base, especially considering how hot the drive bays in the machines get...
     
  12. littleasian

    littleasian Notebook Consultant

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    im running a 200 gb 4200 rpm hdd.

    i think teh brand is toshiba. while the hdd is quiet, the temperature is high and im afriaid of having my hd fail on me.

    i do have a 3 month return policy on it since i bought it at costco, so i might return it if something better shows up...
     
  13. vhmike73

    vhmike73 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Littleasian, I think going with a cooler such as the Zalman model I got will help you immensely- it's well-built, quiet, pretty unobtrusive and does the job VERY well...and for about 40 bucks or so, it's certainly peace of mind. If you like all other aspects of the machine, I think you're better off going with a cooler than trying to hope notebook makers and HDD manufacturers can engineer a machine that's slim, lighter weight and stylish AND cool, at least any time soon!

    All that power/speed we all crave in a machine generates heat- from file transfer operations to the hard drive, the chipsets, memory chips, CPU and GPU working hard to make that game look so good, etc. Factor in slimmer, sleeker laptop case designs, and head hasn't got the chance to escape well. Adding in secondary drive bays makes even ducting fans and such around the already cramped area even worse to try to cool.
     
  14. Lenintsu

    Lenintsu Newbie

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    122 F , The range is hot but steady,don`t worry,eather way , i always suggest a flat fan for Notepads,they are cheap and Usefull :)
     
  15. Lenintsu

    Lenintsu Newbie

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    50c is 122 F , Not too bad,i know it would turn into a lower Endurance for your Display,I suggest to use a basefan for it,don`t be so worried for 122f,it`s "almost" normal but lower LCD life for your notepad
     
  16. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    It's actually 122F (not a bad guess, only 2F off). The conversion formula is: Degrees F = Degrees C * ( 9 / 5) + 32.
     
  17. kessomatt

    kessomatt Notebook Geek

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    I use a 250gb western digital scorpio and was getting between 48-55c temps in the dv2500. I did some searching to see if the dv6500 was any cooler and found that it wasnt. So I returned my dv2500 and bought the 8510w and the highest the temps got was 42c in the middle of a hot summer day. At night it usually stays around 35-37c.
     
  18. VidKo

    VidKo Notebook Consultant

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    I am using a Hitachi Travelstar 5K160 5400rpm (HTS541616J9SA00) and it's temperatures are 34-36 idle and 37-39 degrees celsius under load.