gigabit ethernet

I have purchased and set up 3 DV5T's.
The first DV5T, bought in August '08, was the base setup with;
P7350
2GB
X4500
5100AGN
Std. 6 cell batt.

Recently, I bought 2 DV5T's. I just got them 3 days ago.
One is config'd like the one above, and the other has
P8400
2GB
9200GS
5100AGN

The DV5T with the 9200GS card, has gigabit ethernet, as evidence by it's description in Windows.
The other 2 do not have gigabit ethernet, but, HP DID advertise that the DV5T has it.

Physically, the 9200GS laptop, also has a mini firewire input, just to the left of the card reader.

Why the difference in ethernet? The only difference is the 9200GS card, and my screen is higher res.

The other thing is that in the "windows experience" numbers,
my P8400 w/ 9200GS card actually has a LOWER "windows aero" number than the other DV5T's, that have "lower performance" hardware.
The P8400 unit has a "3.0" for the Aero rating, the gaming number is higher.
The P7350 unit's have a "3.8" Aero rating.

Overall performance "feel" of the units seems identical.
The P8400 w/ the 9200GS card doesn't "feel" any faster than the
P7350 w/ X4500 units. The only thing is that shutdown is a bit quicker with the P8400 unit.

My main concern is the lack of gigabit ethernet, which was advertised as being part of the base DV5T unit, and the low Aero rating with an upgraded video card.

Anyone experience the same?
Or, have any insight?

 

Probably because they are soldered to the boards. Since you have different setups there will be different features. It is not uncommon to either desktops or laptops. If you truly need the GB ports then you can buy an addon card.

 

They should all be gigabit cards. A gigabit ethernet is a requirement for the montevina platform chipset.

Besides nearly all ethernet cards made these days are gigabit capable.

What brand and models are the ethernet cards on the notebooks?

 

Realtek RT8168 in my P8400 w/ the 9200GS card.

The P7350 w/ X4500 I don't know exact numbers, but it's something like
RT8130. The 8168 describes "gigabit ethernet" under device manager, the other 2 DV5T's do not. They just describe "ethernet".

I'm nearly 100% positive that HP said all DV5T's have gigabit, but it's obvious that is not true, or HP dropped the ball.

When I connect my gigabit to my Dlink 955, it shows 1.0Gbps, the other 2 show 100.Mbps. Something is not right, and the cards are different.
My niece is at IU and they will be getting 1Gb to the desktop (claimed) once the new "iLight" system goes fully functional.
One of the main reasons I bought the DV5T was because of the claimed gigabit ethernet capability.

I did notice on the HP website that the description for the DV5T no longer states that it has gigabit capbility. It used to.

One more thing Flipfire. I see you are quite knowledgeable about computers.
Can you answer something?
You know my setup for my DV5.
On the windows number, my aero score was 3.0, so my overall score was 3.0.
On the other 2 dv5's, their score is 3.8.
My dv5 has the faster processor and the 9200 care w/ the higher res monitor.
Why does my "upgraded" dv5 show a lower number?

I added 2-2G mem chips in all 3 dv5's, for a total of 4G in each laptop.
My score went up to 3.3 (due to Aero score going to 3.3).
The other 2 units stayed at 3.8

Any thougts?

 

The RT8130 is a 10/100 chip. If that's what you have then that's what you got. 10/100 is still good. I use a large 10/100 network in my home(DSL>router>24 port switch) and watch movies that are stored on various machines, and transfer large files(<1GB) with no problems. If you must have it you can buy adapters that will work.

 

Thanks for the reply.

It's not so much that I have to have it, it's just that HP said the DV5T comes with it. There is now doubt that the 10/100 works, as it is the current standard. However, 1000 is coming and very soon to everyone.
IU in Bloomington has it and it should start becoming available to students really soon. All IU campuses will be connected to a project called "iLight", which claims 1Gbps to the desktop. That's supposed to be coming within a year.

Overall, my point is that we should get what we apparently paid for.

Also, I wanted to see how many people have 100 cards and who got 1000 cards, and what the difference in configuration there is.

On HP's website, the video cards seem to determine whether or not you get gigabit ethernet. If you have X4500 standard video you get 10/100. If you have the 9200 or 9600 nvidia card then you get 100/1000.
That's lame in my view.

The new Intel chipset specifies gigabit for it's platform. If the DV5 doesn't have gigabit capability in the base setup, then HP should CLEARLY state that isn't not the full new Intel setup.

 

was wondering the same thing. I'll have to check this when I get home. The HP site only says RJ45 (LAN), which doesn't say much

It could be the motherboard which has the 9200 GS or 9600 GT are motherboards that have gigabit ethernet sodered on versus the motherboard with built in video...so maybe a motherboard variation. It still sucks that HP isn't entirely clear on this issue

 

Only systems with dedicated graphics cards have 1gb/s ethernet cards. If you notice on their website under the 9200m gs and 9600m gt it says " Includes 1334 firewire and 10/100/1000 ethernet "

 

Confirmed. My device manager lists my ethernet card as a Realtek RTL8168 PCI-E Gigabit ethernet

Nice little surprise

 

I had similar problems with a dv6700t...hp advertised a gigabit ethernet and I even have a copy of their ad from their website. Salesperson even told me it had gigabit. Used the wireless for a few months then got a gigabit network and NAS and when trying network card realized it wasn't gigabit. Tech support had no clue what hardware I should have had in there after many many calls to them. Then after hours on the phone with hp I got my laptop replaced. They acknolwedged they have no clue what hardware I should have had. HP CONSTANTLY FALSY ADVERTISES HARDWARE! They have no clue what is really in there and for the most part, neither does their tech support. Can't believe there hasn't been a class action suit by now...will NEVER buy from hp again!

 

It's false advertising at best, and that ain't good.

It doesn't and shoudn't matter if 100Mb is acceptable. One major reason I bought the DV5 is due to the advertised gigabit ethernet. It has NOW become clear that gigabit only comes with certain video cards, however, early on the DV5 was advertised as having gigabit, and they did NOT specify that gigabit was "available" on the DV5, but rather that the DV5 came with gigabit ethernet.

Also, those who think this is ok, it's not. Gigabit ethernet on an ltop has been available for some time now. A brand new model with the latest intel processing should come with gigabit, especially since it was advertised and told to me when I ordered.

More people need to express their complaint about this. I'll be calling and writing to HP in the next few days. I ask that others do the same, especially college students, those who use gigabit at work, and those who want to take advantage of the speed increases coming to your home in the next couple of years.

 

I got my new dv5t last week and now I too realized that it does not have firewire and gigabit ethernet.

DV5t with integrated Intel graphic card use GM45 chipset while laptop with Nvidia use PM45 chipset with more features.

 

I've spent hours on the phone and filed complaints through the BBB. After all this HP is refunding me the price of the laptop but they won't refund the sales tax. They'll do anything to keep a profit. Plus its been almost a month and I'm still waiting on my refund check. HP needs a class action suit on behalf of everyone who has bought computers that didn't have the advertised hardware. They need to know that consumers will not tolerate false info, what do they call that? oh yeah...FRAUD. Then maybe they'll change their tune.