heat heat heat pondering dv4 dv5

I'm coming from a qosmio f15 which gets super hot even when idle, i've seriously burned my self on this thing before and it's horid in the summer.

I'm interested in the new hp's but from the post i've been ready it seems like they get hot. I did check them out at the store and they seemed a little warm for just sitting there.
is this a bad way to go if i don't want a machine that gets hot?

 

my dv4t's cpu and vga feels pretty cool to the touch. the hard drive though gets pretty warm depending on which brand comes with your system. but it's not too bad.

 

Excerpt from review of dv5t posted here on NBR

 

thanks, i think that will pretty much steer me away from it, most of the time i'm laying in bed with it on my lap.
maybe i should go the ati road

 

It seems that the 512mb nVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT is the common factor among dv5t reviews that mention heat as an issue. Only when the GPU is under heavy load (gaming) does it become noticeable.

When equipped with the P7350/P8400/P8600 processor and either the nVIDIA 9200M GS or Intel GMA X4500, heat wasn't mentioned at all in the reviews I located on Cnet, PCMagazine and several other tech sites.

The dv7t (17") doesn't seem to have the same issues with heat even with the higher-end T9400 processor and 512mb nVIDIA 9600M GT. Since it is significantly larger than the dv5t, maybe the additional space inside the casing helps with heat dissipation?

If you go with the 9200M GS or Intel X4500 in the dv5t, I don't think you'll have any problems. If you need (or want) the 9600M GT, just try to elevate the rear edge a bit for better airflow and you'll still be fine.

 

Take a look at this review of the Toshiba Satellite A305-S6845 on ComputerShopper.com- http://computershopper.com/reviews/toshiba-satellite-a305-s6845-laptop-review It has the 2.1GHz Intel T8100 processor and 512mb ATI Radeon Mobility HD 3650 GPU and they note that heat is a problem...

Apparently, both the 512mb nVIDIA 9600M GT and 512mb ATI Radeon HD 3650 both can heat things up inside a 15.4" notebook! The ATI Radeon HD 3450/3470 and nVIDIA 9200M/9300M/9500M GS don't seem to be a problem, though.

 

if you go with the 9200m gs then it stays pretty cool. the 9600gt should stay pretty cool if you're not playing games.

 

this is good to know,
i definitly need more than integrated graphics, maybe i should try to get something with 256mb
i won't be doing gaming, but some photoshop, web development, and watching videos of monkies peeing in their mouths, and it would be nice to have the option to edit video in the rare cases that i do

 

Go to http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/s...Versatile+performance&series_name=dv5z_series and there you can customize a HP dv5z notebook, it's the same thing as the HP dv5t except with an AMD processor and an awesome graphics card, the ATI HD3200 the GPU is integrated but it surpasses the level of performance found in the NIVIDIA 9200 GPU, plus it's integrated so you won't have as much heat and it won't eat up as much of your battery as the dedicated cards would. The only thing is if you want decent-good battery life you should get the high capacity 6 cell battery.

 

hmmm, integrated graphics that actually performs well?
you think the amd chip compares well to the centrino setup?
i'll have to check reviews

 

There are reviews of the dv5z and dv5t posted here on NBR...take a look-

HP dv5z Review (AMD 2.1GHz ZM-80 & ATI Radeon Mobility HD 3200 IGP)
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4486

HP dv5t Review (Intel 2.26GHz P8400 & nVIDIA 9600M GT)

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4555

The ATI Radeon Mobility HD 3200 is the best IGP on the market, hands down. It outperforms the nVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS substantially (3DMark06 for ATI HD 3200 is 1651 and the nVIDIA 8400M GS only managed 1380)! The HD 3200 even outperformed the nVIDIA 9200M GS on 3DMark06- 1651 for the HD 3200 and 1623 for the 9200M GS!!!

The ATI Radeon Mobility HD 3200 is based on the ATI Radeon Mobility HD 2400. Essentially, it's a HD 2400 XT built right in. The benchmark results of the HD 2400 XT and the HD 3200 are very similar as a result.

The HD 3200 is only available on AMD "Puma" systems, though. The Turion X2 Ultra processors lag a bit behind similar Intel models, but the HD 3200 compensates somewhat for the Turion's weaker performance.

For Intel-based systems, I'm thinking the best balance of heat/performance is probably the ATI Radeon Mobility HD 3450 and 3470. There isn't a huge difference in performance between them and the HD 3200, but they run circles around the Intel GMA X3100 (or the even the new X4500). The Dell Studio 15 has the HD 3450 and Toshiba uses the HD 3470 in numerous Satellite models. Just FYI.

 

amd chips run a bit hotter then the intel chips and usually have less battery life then the intel laptops do

 

hmm, this is all such good info.
i was actually at the temp readings on the amd setup with some spots at almost 120
well i'm gonna keep digging through the reviews and hope i can take advantage of that $200 if it hasn't expired yet

 

Its been this way for a while. The middle range of ATI always seems to have a performance edge on the middle range of Nvidia. Where nvidia does is win out with the high end stuff. My dv5t is actually the first Nvidia product I've owned since the original GeForce on a desktop. Since then, ATI has always had the better bang for the buck (just not always the biggest bang).

 

I hadn't really given it much thought, but you hit the nail on the head! I've always had nVIDIA graphics cards (Quadro NVS 110M, GeForce 7600M GS, Quadro NVS 140M and GeForce 9600M GT). I bought a Dell Inspiron desktop last year from the Dell Outlet and it included a 128mb nVIDIA GeForce 8300M GS graphics card. The first thing I did was buy an ATI Radeon HD 2600XT (at the time, it cost half the price of an nVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS) and it definitely delivered the most performance for the price.

As for the current notebook graphics cards, the ATI Radeon HD 3650 isn't up to the performance level of the nVIDIA 9600M GT. But the HD 3650 can hold its own against the 9500M GS and 9600M GS.

The ATI Radeon HD 3450 and HD 3470 offer better performance than the nVIDIA 9200M GS and 9300M GS, though. The gap between the 9300M GS and the 9500M GS leaves a hole wide open that the ATI HD 3400-series fills very well.

nVIDIA just introduced a desktop GeForce 9400 GT. There's room between the 9300M GS and 9500M GS for a 9400M GS and/or GT. The previous generation 8400M GS was offered in a thousand different notebooks, but there was also an 8400M GT that didn't seem to catch on very well. Sony used it in some VAIO models, but I never saw it in any other notebook. If we do see a 9400M, it'll probably be a cheaper and slower GS verison....

Then again, nVIDIA has bigger problems at the moment...