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    how hot is too hot? dv2000 duo 120gb hd

    Discussion in 'HP' started by mattropolis, Apr 25, 2007.

  1. mattropolis

    mattropolis Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for the help locating temperature apps. But now there is a new question since I'm getting the temps.

    My laptop seems to be running hot - very hot. I can just be using it normally with 1-2 torrents running, or just running Quake 3 arena, and the bottom where the hd is located gets so hot you can almost burn yourself on it. Further, I've had two lockup/shutdowns where the pc just instantly shuts off when it gets that hot. I've only had the pc a couple days, and it's happened a three times now. Also, the temp apps say that my cpu is usually at 70, and the hd around 60-70 - and that's sitting on a flat desk with plenty of airflow - no obstructions. RightMark indicates that the cpu is often throttling b/c of heat. Is this normal? Think the HD is bad? Anyone else have this experience with the 120gig hd's?

    specs: Core2Duo 5300, 1.5 gig ram, 120gig hd, nvidia 7200, 14.1" lcd, 6-cell battery.
     
  2. bob1182006

    bob1182006 Notebook Evangelist

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    your cpu is 70* C idling? or under a heavy load? cpu should be around 50-60* C idle, 70ish* C under load

    The HD might be bad, if it gets as hot as you say you might have to RMA it to get that HD replaced
     
  3. Ur ex-wife

    Ur ex-wife Notebook Consultant

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    this is NOT normal!!!!! most hard drives are at 47-+50*C

    and CPUs can be from 35-+50 WHEN IDLE. when doing number crunching (like when stress testing a processor by running a number calculating program) my T5500 1.66GHz goes to 70. idle its at about 39-40*C


    SO YES! GET IN CONTACT WITH HP TO GET IT FIXED

    p.s. in my 7 months of owning my Dell E1505, it has never shut down because of it being too hot
     
  4. ruibing

    ruibing Notebook Consultant

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    Make sure your laptop is on adaptive power scheme (both for WinXP or Vista).
     
  5. agent007

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    My HD averages around 58C. 70 is way too high.
     
  6. Ice-Tea

    Ice-Tea MXM Guru NBR Reviewer

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    70 degrees for a CPU is hot, but not dangerously so.

    70 degrees for a HD is hot to a point where it will seriously decrease expected lifetime or even to a point where you can start loosing data.
     
  7. mattropolis

    mattropolis Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for the help. At idle, the cpu is at 50 and doing anything it goes to 80 and stays there. I called hp and they also agreed something was amiss and I'll be sending it in. Too bad, I really hope they fix this - I really like the laptop.
     
  8. ruibing

    ruibing Notebook Consultant

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    Hmm, I have the dv6000t and depending on my hard drive, the fan's behavior changes. When its idle at 50C, is the fan on? And if so, at what relative level? It might jsut be that you have a firmware that has a low level. You might want to try another. This might fix your slightly high idle temperature.

    Also try using rmclock and undervolting your cpu, I did it for my core 2 duo, and it helps a lot. And also make sure to use an adaptive power scheme through rmclock. But if it's a bit too high level, try using speedswitchxp or nhc.
     
  9. mattropolis

    mattropolis Notebook Enthusiast

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    Update: So, I'm waiting for my return packing to come - fortunately this is within the time period in which they pay for everything.

    As far as I can tell, there is no fan other than a small one I think might be for the graphics card - and I can't tell if any other fan ever comes on. I've seen that fan going a little bit, but there doesn't ever seem to be any air really moving in/out of the vents. Like I mentioned before, I'll turn the pc on and get about 50 degrees out of it, then if I do much of anything for awhile - it'll quick jump up to 80 degrees and stay there. If I let it settle back down, it'll idle at 70 but sometimes it'll drop back to 50 - but rarely. I personally think the thermal devices aren't solidly pasted (b/c shipping?) or a fan/temp sensor isn't triggering cool down. Is there even a fan in the 2000t? I haven't heard one come on...

    Yes, this is something I'm very interested in b/c I rarely need all the horsepower of the Core 2 Duo. I have rmclock on, but what are 'safe' setting to underclock? I've OC'ed graphics processors and whatnot before, but don't know what the safe and stable values for undervolting the C2D. Is there a guide?
     
  10. JadedRaverLA

    JadedRaverLA Notebook Deity

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    Those temps seem way to high.

    On my dv2000t (just for comparison's sake on the same model):

    CPU: 52 degreec C
    GPU: 54 degrees C
    Hard Disk: 39 degrees C (although it goes up to closer to 50 degrees depending on what work I am doing)

    It sounds like they definitely need to look at your machine.
     
  11. mattropolis

    mattropolis Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for the ranges - yep, it's certainly too high then. I'll bet the thermal piping/heatsinks came loose when they shipped it to me, but since it's under warranty, I'll let them figure it out. I should be getting their free return shipping packaging tomorrow. Should have it back by the end of the week if everything ships properly with a guaranteed 3-day turnaround.
     
  12. Tara92

    Tara92 Newbie

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    Just wanted to share some info from two locations that might help. Not sure if it will help at all, but...
    1) there is another thread in this forum that addresses what may be a similar problem [see thread "Fan Problem (Vista)"].
    2) There is a similar discussion for a fan / temperature / noise issue on the nc8430, on the hp web site. The good news is that they found a way to avert the problem. Go to:
    http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?t
    hreadId=1041766
    Hope it helps!
     
  13. jajafa88

    jajafa88 Newbie

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    I seem to have this same problem, around 70 degrees idling. I guess i should call HP then. I guess its not normal if the bottom of the notebook physically hurts to touch.
     
  14. mattropolis

    mattropolis Notebook Enthusiast

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    Are you getting lockups too? I get random instant shutdowns/crashes. I'm sure it's the system doing a thermal shutdown to avoid damage. It happens playing Q3 Arena or playing video files from the hard drive. Anything that taxes the cpu and/or does hd stuff usually causes it to flat crash.
     
  15. jajafa88

    jajafa88 Newbie

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    I don't get any random shutdowns here, but I really think that i should be. When running superpi, my cpu reached 89C. When i go on summer break this week I am going to call HP, and see what they can do about it, and if they will do nothing, I always have that "accidental" coverage on my computer.
     
  16. mattropolis

    mattropolis Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well, I got my machine back from the depot over the weekend - and they replaced the motherboard and "bottom plastics". That was kind of wierd, but ok... Then I boot the machine and it was clear the lady/guy who did it didn't fully boot windows after he replaced the motherboard - because I was greeted with tons of installing new device dialogs. Hmmm, strange, if it was the same model motherboard, I shouldn't have seen ALL those devices reloading. Then I look at the device list and my nVidia 7200 card is gone and all it has is the Intel 945 - they put the wrong motherboard in. If that isn't enough, I can still get the instant power-offs by playing video clips for about 10-20 minutes and it's still running at 80C. Back it goes - AGAIN.


    At this point, I'm going to put a stop payment on my credit card until they get this thing fixed right. I've had my machine in my possession a total of 7 days out of the 3 weeks I've owned it.


    The saga continues...

     
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  17. Homeboy

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    That's bad. HP picked up my lappie yesterday and my heat problems were even worse then yours. My CPU temperature was constantly at 79-87C even affecting the overall performance negatively and probably even decreasing my battery time to 30-40min. Not to mention giving me burn marks above my left leg.

    Hopefully the repair och replacement will go smoothly so that I don't need to send it back, because I badly need it. Keep me updated on how it works out for you.
     
  18. Jimmyk

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    any updates?