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    Discussion in 'HP' started by nadodude, Jul 15, 2006.

  1. nadodude

    nadodude Newbie

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    hi everyone this is my first post. i was wondering whats the difference between AMD and intel celeron M processors?
     
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    admlam Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    I am assuming you are comparing an AMD Sempron with an Intel Celeron M.

    A Celeron is essentially a previous generation Pentium-M without the speed-step technology. (As a result, it can't reduce its speed to conserve battery life.) Performance is so-so and battery life is okay at best.

    The Sempron is AMD's budget model. Unlike the Celeron, it features the AMD PowerNow! technology, which allows it to decrease its speed to increase battery life as needed when you aren't doing anything intense such as word, e-mail, browsing the Internet.

    Typically, AMD is well-known for their 64bit processors, but it is important to note that the Sempron is a 32bit processor.

    In terms of performance, the general consensus is that the Sempron is superior to the Celeron. But in my opinion, the performance is close enough that whichever one is cheaper is better. (ex. those $399 Intel Toshibas) Battery life is better on a a Sempron though.

    By the way, Welcome to Notebook Forums!
     
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    sav Notebook Consultant

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    That's incorrect. There are Semprons with 64bit processing.
     
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    vassil_98 Notebook Deity

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    Semprons are basically unsuccessful Athlons/Turions. There might be 64bit Semprons but as far as I know AMD markets them as only 32bit cpus. If you're lucky you may get a 64bit Sempron. CPUZ will show which one it is.
     
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    rockharder Notebook Evangelist

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    I heard Sempron 64 only happened in Socket 939 case, will it be the same in new mobile S1 socket? If so, new Sempron is worth to try before an superior 65nm Turion X2 released.
     
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    miner Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Yeah, the S1 Sempron are supposed to be 64bit enabled...
    http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/05/18/amd_rolls_out_s1_semprons/

    It would be nice if someone who has one of these S1's to confirm it though. The only other mobile Semprons which were 64bit enabled were the 939's used by HP in the zv6000/R4000's. The rest were all 32bit.
     
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    compaq64 Notebook Consultant

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    I think that is somewhat incorrect, I have a pentium 4 ht 3.06ghz and for some reason my sempron is better with a lot of things, the sempron in a notebook has 2 gigs of ram the desktop pent has 4 gigs of ram. both have 7200rpm hds.
     
  8. rockharder

    rockharder Notebook Evangelist

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    I read that too. But no further information yet. If 3500+ works at 1.8Ghz with 512K cach, that might be great. It is a better replacement to Turion single core but still give you opportunity to upgrade to X2. Mostly, it only work at 25W. :eek:
     
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    clip Notebook Consultant

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    When? When will 65nm Turion X2 be released?
     
  10. brianstretch

    brianstretch Notebook Virtuoso

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    Probably end of the year. AMD is supposed to start volume production of 65nm CPUs in Q4 and be producing the majority of their CPUs in 65nm by the end of Q1. Notebook chips generally get die shrinks first. It'll probably be December before you can buy the 65nm chips. Then HP has to update their BIOS to support the new chips... probable, but not guaranteed since they could come out with a new notebook line instead.

    I'd go ahead and buy today if the notebook you want is shipping (I'm waiting for the dv9000z). The new chips will probably just be 25W TDP instead of 35W, unless AMD surprises us and gets the K8L core into production earlier than expected.
     
  11. miner

    miner Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I hope they get K8L out in 1H 07. There were rumors about "Bulldozer" flying around last month. If the rumors are true then Merom will get a competitior next year(probably at the same time Intel updates their platform to Santa Rosa)....
    http://www.laptoplogic.com/news/detail.php?id=960