just bought zv6000 have ? re brightview screen

I just bought the zv6005s w/ brightview screen from Circuit City. They didn't have it out on display so I took it home with out looking at it.

Well when I opened it, the brightview screen looks nothing like HP/Compaqs other models w/ the brightview screen, it isn't glossy at all.

I also own a zv5000 w/o brightview and the screen looks almost the same except the zv6000 is a little brighter. The only reason I bought the zv6000 was because I like the zv5000 but wanted the glossy brightview screen.

Shouldn't all the HP models w/ brightview have the same glossy effect? And can I return my zv6000 w/o paying the 15% restocking fee?

 

They're out?! [:0]

Which CPU does it have? Is it the 128MB dedicated video memory version or the shared memory only version? (If it has the 6in1 card reader I think it's the dedicated memory version.) Did you see any other zv6000 series models?

Do us a favor and run CPU-Z and tell us what processor Code Name, Package and Technology it has, and whether SSE3 is listed on the Instructions list.

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by namnr

 

Yes they are out at CC. I bought the zv6005s model. They don't have it on display but have in the back. The store I bought mine at had 4 in stock

Amd 64 3200+ 512kb l2
512mb ram
128 ati 200m
6-1 reader
dbl layer dvd burner

My desktop has 512mb w/ 128 intergrated video card and system shows my memory at 384mb. On my zv6000 system shows 512mb w/ video card at 128mb, so I assume its dedicated.

Bought it for $1150 and comes w/ $50 MIR

Brian, I'll run the cpu z test if you can tell me which version I need to download. I'm not into all the technical stuff so the instructions are a little confusing for me.

 

You want the latest version of CPU-Z, 1.28 at the moment (http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpu-z-128.zip).

Good to know that it is the dedicated video memory version. Very nice config. Which hard drive? Size/speed? (Probably 4200RPM...)

I'm sure we'll see these in the Sunday ads tomorrow.

 

Okay ran cpu z

Code Name: New Castle
Package: Socket 939
Technology: 0.13
Instructions: MMX(+), 3DNOW!(+), SSE, SSE2, x86-64

Looks like it uses pc2700 memory and I have a 80gb 4200 hd

The zv6005s was the only model CC was selling

 

Well, that's interesting. So they really are using 939-pin dual channel desktop CPUs. (Unless AMD made a lidless notebook version special for HP, but that wouldn't be required for a big desktop replacement notebook like the zv6000.)

This also means that, in theory, you could swap in just about any other 939-pin CPU. Dual cores too, when they're ready (June/July?), though that will almost certainly need a BIOS update. Very, very interesting.

Thanks namnr!

 

Compusa just put up 2 rebates for the zv6005 and zv6015 so I assume they will go on sale tomorrow as well, just in case they run out at circuit city.

"If you find yourself in a hole, it's time to stop digging."

 

i wonder what the difference is between the zv6015 and the zv6005

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by brianstretch

 

from here:
http://www.penstarsys.com/reviews/cpu/amd/a64_3200_90/a64_3200_4.htm
http://www.behardware.com/articles/531/page1.html
http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.cfm?articleid=613&cid=1
http://www.techreport.com/onearticle.x/7417

I found
"The 90 nm Athlon 64¡¦s are very cool running at any given speed, and other 3rd party figures show that it consumes a solid 10% less power than the 130 nm SOI Athlon 64.".

If HP ships me 130nm DT Athlon , I would like to buy one 90nm DT Athlon to replace the original one [ ], but I hope them give me 90nm Athlon to reduce my work. Or maybe I could wait for the dual core until June or July[ ]. I won't care about the battery life if I can successfully run dual core in my ZV6000! It's a hugely satisfied to have a 64-bit, dual channel, dual core NB just inside a 8.xlbs box! Well, I may think too much.

It may be hard to find one lidless cpu if HP use a special Athlon.

We may expect poor battery life for a ZV6000.
I found this from a ebay bidding item:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=16182&item=6760391322&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW


12-cell Battery for HP Pavilion zx5000, zv5000, zd8000, and Compaq Presario X6000, R3000 Series Notebooks

Maximum Run Time
4 hours, 16 minutes for HP Pavilion zv5000t; 2 hours, 47 minutes for HP Pavilion zv5000z and Compaq Presario R3000Z; 2 hours, 15 minutes for HP Pavilion zv6000 and Compaq Presario R4000
Run time for playing DVD
1 hour, 53 minutes for HP Pavilion zv5000t and Compaq Presario R3000Z; 1 hour for HP Pavilion zd8000 and Compaq Presario X6000; 1 hour, 35 minutes for HP Pavilion zv6000 and Compaq Presario R4000

Waiting for my ZV6000 from Costco:
AMD Athlon 64 3200+
2GB RAM, 128MB GPU,5K80+7K60
8x DVD+/-RW, wifi+blue

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by dragoonchang

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by miner

 

The ZV6000 is using the desktop CPUs. See the discussion here

http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=72636

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dragonwolf

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by dragoonchang

We may expect poor battery life for a ZV6000.
I found this from a ebay bidding item:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=16182&item=6760391322&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW


12-cell Battery for HP Pavilion zx5000, zv5000, zd8000, and Compaq Presario X6000, R3000 Series Notebooks

Maximum Run Time
4 hours, 16 minutes for HP Pavilion zv5000t; 2 hours, 47 minutes for HP Pavilion zv5000z and Compaq Presario R3000Z; 2 hours, 15 minutes for HP Pavilion zv6000 and Compaq Presario R4000
Run time for playing DVD
1 hour, 53 minutes for HP Pavilion zv5000t and Compaq Presario R3000Z; 1 hour for HP Pavilion zd8000 and Compaq Presario X6000; 1 hour, 35 minutes for HP Pavilion zv6000 and Compaq Presario R4000

Waiting for my ZV6000 from Costco:
AMD Athlon 64 3200+
2GB RAM, 128MB GPU,5K80+7K60
8x DVD+/-RW, wifi+blue
<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'></font id='quote'></blockquote id='quote'>

The zv6000 should get ~2.5-3 hrs with the 12 cell battery.

Here's some more specs:

8 cell battery 4.4Ah 65Whr
12 cell battery 6.6Ah 95Whr

Sempron AC power supply - 90W
Athlon 64 AC power supply 120W

Max battery size is 95W

With Cool'n'Quiet the CPU speed is designed to be limited in speed due to the battery power. The minimum CPU speed it would run at is 1GHz. Here's a breakdown for the AMD 3500+ based on the following document

Athlon 64 specs - http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/30430.pdf

Example
Amd Athlon 64 3500+

* 2.2Ghz - 89W - AC only
* 2.0GHz - 69W - 12 cell battery needed
* 1.8GHz - 50W - 8 cell battery needed


Looking at the Athlon FX specs in that document, it looks like most of them only have max P-State which consumes 89W so you could only run on AC power. The FX-55 consumes 104W, so it probably wouldn't work at all even with AC power. A couple of the FX-53 versions and the FX-55 have a min P-State that only consumes 25W, but only runs at 1.2GHz.

_____________
dragonwolf

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by dragoonchang

 

I heard the 3500+ are the winchester core....why would they use an oversized desktop cpu, if they have a 90nm version that is almost twice as efficient and runs cooler?

 

Because they are cheaper!

90 size = Turion in notebooks (I think that's the plan)
130 initially seems just replacing what they called DTR. It seems like chips formerly called DTR (based on original clawhammer core) are sort of absent..

BTW, Duals may not work without BIOS change, I would think. I certainly wouldn't buy contingent on upgrade to dual later....

--Rich

 

actually I'm afraid you're wrong rich, The 90nm Winchester 3500+ is almost exactly the same price;

See for yourself:
Winchester:http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103494&ATT=Processors&CMP=OTC-d3alt1me
Newcastle:http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103460

Also, it makes way more logical sense that they are putting the 90nm winchesters in them because AMD just released the 90nm chip at the end of march and this coincides almost exactly with the availability of the ZV6000 at the same time - if this wasn't true they would've been offering 3500's a while ago...

 

Winchester cores have been available for longer than that, since last Fall I think. I used one for the Shuttle SFF box I built for my parents (very nice BTW, Shuttle has a new nForce4 version too). The Venice cores (adds SSE3, overclocks better) are just coming out, Monarch claims they'll have them in early May, so I'd assume that HP has them or will get them very soon.

I suspect HP got a good deal on AMD's remaining 130nm inventory, or a good chunk of it at least. I would be unsurprised if the 3500+'s they're using are Winchesters. The 3800+, when they start offering it, will probably be a Venice core.

I would definitely want to undervolt with CrystalCPUID, given the desktop CPU's default 1GHz @ 1.1V PowerNOW! mode. It should be able to do much better than that.

 

BrainStrech

Cool program CrystalCPUID. Are there any tweak tools you know of.

Maybe start a thread?

Also the zv6005 i saw today at circuit city looked like the rest of the glossy brightview screens

Add 1000 to that avatar number.

 

Two questions:

(1) When I pre-ordered my zv6000, I chose the 15.4" WXGA verus the 15.4" Brightview screen. How much of a difference is there between the two?

(2) My processor will just be a Sempron 3000+ (the lowest one). Under regular usage such as data input and checking e-mails/scanning internet, what can I expect my battery life to be? And will there be ways to cut down on processing power to save on battery life?

 

CrystalCPUID and MobileMeter are my two favorite utilities. I used to use ClockGen. There's lots of stuff strewn throughout the big zv5000z thread. Hmm, wonder of CrystalCPUID will play nice with the new chipset? One of you with zv6000's will have to let us know.

BrightView versus non: if I understand correctly, BrightView is mostly just removing the antiglare filter. It looks very nice... so long as you don't place the notebook where you have to deal with glare. My zv5000z predates BrightView.

I'm not sure what the battery life will be on these things if they're using desktop CPUs, since the low-power mode is 1.1V @ 1GHz instead of 0.95V @ 800MHz like it is on the mobile CPUs. The ATI chipset should be more power efficient than the nVidia in the zv5000z (I like nVidia but they need to work on their power consumption). A zv5000z gets 3-4 hours with the 12 cell battery. Tweak the voltage settings with CrystalCPUID and you'll get at least that. With stock voltages... I'm just not sure. It'll still beat the crap out of a P4.

 

Hello, new to the forum... I am on the verge to looking for a laptop for my graduation present, so I was trying to look for various AMD64/ATI combos. I was doing a google search on 'zv6000' series along with 'ATI Xpress200M 128MB dedicated' and found this forum thread. I was curious about this model HP notebook (seems to be exact to the Compaq R4000 series). Has any benchmarked/tried games with this Xpress200M w/ 128MB dedicated memory? If so, post some up. Also, about this system maybe being a socket-939/dual channel... You should probably check with programs like SiSoft Sandra 2005, and CPU-Z... I own a desktop Athlon64 3200+ S939-variant, CPU-Z reports mine desktop system correctly with a S939 interface/Winchester under the CPU tab. Under the Memory tab, under the # of channels it reads Dual for dual channel. Someone check if these systems report 'Dual' under the number of channels in the Memory tab. Another sure way to check dual channel status is memory benchmarks with Sandra 2005... BTW, since this Xpress200M 128MB is a dedicated PCI-E card, can this be upgradeable to X600/X700/X800 mobility graphics?

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by vfxraven19

 

ordered my R4000 with all the best upgrades (except the HD, I went with the faster 5400 80 GB) yesterday (4/20) with an est. ship date of 5/18, I am doing a review on the machine w/ pics and benchmarks as soon as I recieve it for this forum. I'll definitely post as soon as I get my hands on it so everyone knows when to expect a review

 

my 3500+ is the Newcastle core, not the 90nm Winchester.[ ]

 

I just purchased that r4000 with the 64 +4000, 1 gig of ram, 80 5400rpm, ATI 128 RADEON XPRESS 200.

shipped today! woohoo [ ]

I see that microsoft just released XP 64 edition, and they have a free upgrade option, it looks like, if you had purchased a system between a certain time.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/upgrade/default.mspx

Here is the question of the day, you think HP will have drivers for it?

 

Yeah... I will hold off. I am all about the free stuff though

 

yep, just wait for new drivers

 

I believe the free upgrade is only for xp-Pro'ers[V]...Besides, it's not worth changing over since you can't switch back supposedly & there aren't any significant advantages thus far.

Upgrading to Longhorn, however, is another story[ ]

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Http://www.zv6000forums.com

For all zv6k/r4k dialogue.

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by AthlonNewbie

 

Question: I'm looking at this system from CompUSA. Other than the fact that it doesn't come in a 17" widescreen, it seems like a great system. Would you guys agree? Just reading your posts tells me you know a LOT more than I'll ever know about PC's, CPU's etc...

Computer I want is http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=319138&pfp=BROWSE

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by AthlonNewbie

 

The description is misleading. Since it has the 6-in-1 media reader, it also has the 128MB dedicated memory GPU. I haven't seen any retail models with the shared-memory-only GPU.

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by brianstretch

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by rfortson

 

I just picked up an HP Pavilion zv6015us at CompUSA last night. I've of course been loading software and configuring it since then. So this evening after work, I decided to take a look at the BIOS and I see that it says it is an HP zv6000 and the little badge on the top right says HP Pavilion zv6000. Did they give me the wrong notebook?

I haven't tried to burn DVDs yet and windows says I have 1GB of RAM and an AMD Athlon 64 3500+. I just want to make sure that I got the notebook I paid for and that they didn't hand me the wrong box. Should the badge on the top right say zv6015us?

Thank you guys very much.

Dave

[:I]

HP Pavilion zv6015us (maybe)

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by dstockto

 

ZV6000 is the notebook series name. HP sells it various configurations and identifies the differnce hardware of each by the last two digits (Such as yours a ZV6015). You have the correct BIOS.

 

Thank you both for a very quick response. It is the response I was hoping for. The HP website is misleading in that it doesn't mention the xx parts of the 60xx. It mentions several places to look for the info about what kind of computer you have, but doesn't say it will only tell you the series.

Thanks again.

Dave

HP Pavilion zv6015us (maybe)