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    made in USA ? or china ?

    Discussion in 'HP' started by mini compu, Oct 20, 2007.

  1. mini compu

    mini compu Notebook Enthusiast

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    please help i just bought a new hp dv2500 from dubai (middle east) and seems to be "made in china "
    is that ok or its some cheap crap :( please help .
     
  2. Waveblade

    Waveblade Notebook Deity

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    Why would it matter? A LOT of stuff is made in china.
     
  3. Lithus

    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    Lol, thank you, finally a rational answer.

    Do you know how much your laptop will cost if it's made in the USA? And my made I mean assembled, since the parts will be from China and Japan.
     
  4. Sam

    Sam Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yeah, almost all electronics are made in China nowadays. Nothing to freak over, unless you want to boycott electronics altogether.
     
  5. kanehi

    kanehi Notebook Deity

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    Products made and assembled in China with cheap labor doesn't come "cheap" with their increased pollution and low pay.

    US assembly is good or better but the astronomical cost of labor and dealing with Unions makes it a bit difficult to make a profit and thus have to pass the cost to the consumer.

    It's all about economics and how to maximize profits for shareholders. Actually, China including Taiwan, Korea and Japan are leading edge countries for electronics. The US used to be the leader but somehow lost it.
     
  6. ZaZ

    ZaZ Super Model Super Moderator

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    Most Fujitsus are assembled in Japan if you want to go that route.
     
  7. mini compu

    mini compu Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thank U guys now i feel a bit relief after your answers because i always thought " made in china "is a bad thing .
     
  8. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

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    "Made in China" may actually mean "Made in Taiwan", which is better than "Made in China, not including Taiwan", so to speak.
     
  9. Macpod

    Macpod Connoisseur

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    the stuff we buy are usually assembled in china using assembly lines imported from overseas and stuff trained to perform very specific tasks. or completely automated assembly lines. You have to remember, land in countries such as japan cost a lot of money too. Freight in comparison is quite cheap now days.

    All 'made in china' means is cheap[by western standards] labour.

    electronics sold in china for chinese consumers ont he other hand is a completely different story. they are getting better but i wouldnt touch them for now.

    the problem with china is not the inability to produce good quality electronics, it's the quality control. but luckily most exported stuff are cream of the bunch.
     
  10. Cialis

    Cialis Notebook Enthusiast

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    "Made in Japan" used to equal cheap junk, now it's considered quality. Chinese manufacturing and assembly, especially in this day and age, is very sophisticated.

    It's the samller plants that are shady and make knock-offs, patent infringing product, or potentially dangerous toys/medical devices.

    Large, international electronic manufacturing plants make good product to specification. They utilize cheap, highly educated labor to use with well-developed processes and procedures to produce their product. There is nothing wrong with electronics made in China.
     
  11. Lithus

    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    I saw a video of an Asus plant, where women workers actually manually added on PCI slots to Mobos. Pretty interesting job if you ask me.
     
  12. Lithus

    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    Make very good product indeed. All Your Base Are Belong To Us.
     
  13. iph03n1xi

    iph03n1xi Notebook Evangelist

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    Except how the workers get a lot less than what someone doing the job in the US would get payed...



    And Lithus, do you remember where the video was from? I wouldn't mind seeing it myself. Seems interesting.
     
  14. kanehi

    kanehi Notebook Deity

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    Those PCI boards needs to be installed manually. I don't think I can do that 8 hours a day! Fast burn-out for me.
     
  15. Cialis

    Cialis Notebook Enthusiast

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    The amount of money people get paid for a particular job is a bigger issue than being discussed here. The issue at hand is Chinese quality - and it's plenty good.

    If you happen to work for a large, international electronics manufacturing company, you get paid accordingly and can live relatively comfortable.
     
  16. Macpod

    Macpod Connoisseur

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    Oldest liberal BS excuse in the world. Cost of living in China is about 1/6 that of the states. Truth is the only people complaining are the pot smoking hippies in colleges who thinks they are being non conformist.

    And yes, i have worked in China and have met these 'poor unfortunate sweat shop workers'.

    Move out of your parents house and take off those blinkers buddy

    happiness isnt measured by income. a lot more suits jump off buildings than pig farmers let me tell you

    I have traveled around China and met many people with less than modest incomes by western standards yet they are happy and content. Simply because the amount of money they earn lets them live happily and comfortably in their country. Foreign investment creates comparatively high paying jobs for the locals. but there wont be any foreign investments if chinese wages were the same as the US. It's called globalisation buddy.
     
  17. chrixx

    chrixx Product Specialist NBR Reviewer

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    Sigh....every few months, we must come upon such a thread (people asking why their $5000 laptop is Made in PRC, so what??). Asking a question like the OP/TS did is just a faux pas in internet forums imo because they spiral into discussions on economic issues which while interesting, could be better discussed elsewhere.
     
  18. Macpod

    Macpod Connoisseur

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    given the average level of ignorance im surprised its not more frequent. I guess this forum is frequented by the cream of a crop then [sarcasm - in case it was too abstract]
     
  19. miner

    miner Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The original question seems to have been answered back in the first page and the rest is just commentary which isn't relevant to this section of the forum nor the forum itself.

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