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    newby HP Pavilion ZD7000 please help!

    Discussion in 'HP' started by fezzer, Apr 14, 2004.

  1. fezzer

    fezzer Newbie

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    [:I] hello everyone

    i have been reading this site for ages and only just realised i could register not been in the states!

    i have a laptop on the way the hp pavilion zd700

    its my first ever laptop so im all giddy!

    i want to run it wireless but keep my desktop wired prefferably not networked together but im told this isnt possible

    as we need a router to share the cable broadband

    anyway to the point!

    all i could find on the laptop was minimal to say the least but what i could said that it wasnt released over here only in the states

    been in the uk i think our routers run on b/g (if that means anything to you guys it dunt to me!)

    do yours run on the same im just a bit worried i might have problems!

    does anyone know anything more about hp wireless cards as my laptop should be here monday but i wanted to get its router this weekend

    and with you all polling on price mine is new and has cost around 1500 dollars if my conversion is correct!

    and has

    17 wxga
    p4 3.2 processor
    512 ddram
    4x CD/DVD burner DVD+RW/+R
    80GB hard drive
    128MB DDR NVIDIA graphics

    plus wireless and lots of software and windows xp pro

    i was going to get a new desktop but prices round here are silly and it would have cost me just as much to get a desktop at that spec so i thought i might aswell get a lappy which will be easier for business anyway

    if anyone has any links to any websites etc that have any info please let me know or if you can help about the router

    and sorry to be so dim!

    fezzer[8]

     
  2. Quikster

    Quikster Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Hey I set up the wireless at my house and there are a couple of ways to set it up to seperate your two networks. The way I did it is to set one of the routers in front of the other and then setup a DMZ passthrough to the other router. The other way you might be able to do it is with a switch and then spliting that up to the two routers, however this may not work since then you would have to get two ips from your ISP the easiest way is probably to just set it up in the layered mode. Usually when something is in the DMZ to keep it secured the router will automatically stop it from accessing the rest of your network.

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  3. Underpantman

    Underpantman Notebook Virtuoso

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    I've got a similar network setup at my place.
    Here is what I have.
    ADSL modem connected to my desktop via network cable.
    Netcomm USB wireless b connection for my desktop.
    ASUS M2N with intel wireless 2100 built in.
    So I am running a wireless b network!

    This is all you need to network two computers ie lap to desktop in adhoc mode, and share the internet connection, files, printers etc.
    As long as both machines are running XP you should not have to much trouble setting the network up, just run the home/networking wizard that comes with XP on the desktop first (assuming that is where you internet connection is) and then run it on the laptop second. Fingers crossed you should have a funcitonal network.

    Also note that wireless b runs at around 11Mbps while g is at 54Mbps ie 5X faster.
    b is fast enough for sharing internet, printers, streaming music and small video files, but transfering large files etc will be slow.

    Also g is backward compatable with b so my suggestion would be to get a pci wireless g card for your desktop, this should be the cheapest simplest way to get up and running and should work with your lappie which i'm guessing will be either b or g. If it is b and you are finding that the connection speed is to slow then you can buy an wireless g pc card for your notebook latter. Also as you get more confident with your laptop and networking skills you can upgrade to better stuff like access points, hubs, routers etc etc.

    Hope this is of some help.
    If you want some more detailed info let me know
    a
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  4. fezzer

    fezzer Newbie

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    i need a router to share the connection as over here you register ip address with the cable company and thats all that can access through your a/c but if i get the buffalo i have been looking at that runs at the faster or slower speed it connects to my modem via ethernet then my computer should connect to it again

    but i really dont want the laptop and desktop linked up

    if i get the buffalo with the wireless access for the laptop to the wireless card then my desktop runs through its current usb connection to the modem but i dont directly connect the desktop to the router will it still share the connection without networking my machines?
     
  5. Underpantman

    Underpantman Notebook Virtuoso

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    From my limited knowledge you could sort of get things up and running, by manually setting up your network on both machines. Once your've got your desktop up and running with a wireless card, try sharing the internet access only, to do this go to network connections right click on you internet connection properties etc etc and select allow others to use this connection etc etc. With any luck your lappy will pick up the connection without having to fully network the two. You could also just not share any directory etc on the desktop.
    Sorry if this is no help, I'm only used to getting my network to work fully never tried only partially setting up a network?
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  6. Quikster

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    However, if he wants to setup the two from accessing one another he can't use ICS he would have to spilt the connection with either another router in the DMZ of the first one or an access point in the DMZ of the first one.

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  7. Venombite

    Venombite Notebook Virtuoso

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    Fezzer, is there any reason why you don't want the 2 units connected to the same router? Is it because of security? I believe if you're running Windows XP on both systems, you will need the username & password inorder to access the files (correct me if I'm wrong) or you can just disable file sharing. Using the Internet Connection Sharing option makes your notebook connect to your desktop after you add a wireless card to your desktop. This technically turns your desktop into the "Router" so you can share your internet access, but once the desktop is turned off, you will no longer have access to the internet on your notebook.

    I would recommend getting a 4 port wireless broadband router. The router connects to the cable modem via ethernet, you enter the IP address assigned to you into the router and then connect your desktop to the router via ethernet, setup wireless on the router and notebook and you'll then also have internet access on the notebook. The major advantages with this option is that when the desktop is off, your notebook still has internet access, also you're behind a hardware firewall which decreases the chance of getting hacked.
     
  8. Quikster

    Quikster Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    The protection by username/password isn't necessarily a great security either. If the wireless is accessed by somebody else and he isn't up to date on security patches and such someone wouldn't necessarily need the username/password since they could just use an exploit.

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  9. Venombite

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    Quikster, that's very true. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but using the ICS, wouldn't you be exposing the desktop to attacks/viruses/worms if the system is not up-to-date, and then in turn exposing the notebook when it connects to the desktop to get onto the internet?
     
  10. Quikster

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    ICS opens a connection to your computer that could then be exploited. Thats why if you don't need it you should always turn off file sharing, netbios, ICS and get a firewall to help minimize some of the risks

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