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    questions about the HP HDX 18t

    Discussion in 'HP' started by kimdoocheol, Apr 17, 2009.

  1. kimdoocheol

    kimdoocheol Notebook Evangelist

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    i am currently in the market for a new laptop and i have been looking at the HP HDX18t. i need a laptop for entertainment, as well as college work. i have a few questions that i need answered since i haven't been keeping up on the latest video cards and such... i have this in my cart and ready to order for 2,700 dollars with s&h/tax.
    -how long will the battery last per charge?
    -i haven't heard too many positive things about the 130m, so is it easy to "upgrade" this card at say, bestbuy? i wanna play FPS mostly, like COD5 on max settings.. maybe crysis, but from what i heard not many laptops can run that game on max settings.
    -is 2,700 a good price for everything included in this package, or is there something "better" i could buy? if so, what do you reccomend?

    the reason i want the HDX is because HP has a 30% off coupon on customized laptops right now and if i were to buy a different cpu with these type of settings i'm looking at 3-4k. anyways, here are the specs:
    – Upgrade to Genuine Windows Vista Ultimate with Service Pack 1 (64-bit)
    – Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad Processor QX9300 (2.53Hz)
    – $100 OFF!! 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm) - For 1GB Nvidia GeForce GT 130M
    – 640GB 7200RPM SATA Dual Hard Drive (320GB x 2) with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
    – 1GB Nvidia GeForce GT 130M - For DDR3 Memory
    – 18.4" diagonal High Definition HP Ultra BrightView Infinity Display (1920x1080p)
    – Blu-Ray +/-R/RW with SuperMulti
    – Webcam + Fingerprint Reader with HP Imprint Finish (Fluid)
    – Intel Next-Gen Wireless-N Mini-card with Bluetooth
    – 50% OFF!! HP Integrated HDTV Hybrid Tuner
    – Full Size Backlit Keyboard
    – 8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
    – No Productivity Software
    – HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope
     
  2. optimustarzan

    optimustarzan Notebook Deity

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    I have the hdx16 which is same but smaller. Keep in mind that the hdx18 is huge if you are considering to carry it from class to class.

    The 130M is 7 levels better than the 9600m says this website. Although it may not run every game at highest settings, its a decent card IMO. Look to the right under class 2 gpus.

    http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-130M.13789.0.html

    You cannot upgrade the graphics card since it is soldered to the motherboard. Therefore, if you think you need a better one later, I'd suggest you go ahead and get it.

    I think that is a good price considering you've maxed out the specs.
     
  3. RainMotorsports

    RainMotorsports Formerly ClutchX2

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    The 9800 GS which is the same as a GTS except it runs at a lower voltage and clock speed when flashed with a GTS bios and running benchmark proven DOX drivers only managed 30 FPS @ 1680x1050 in Crysis with the minimum falling below 24 which = choppy.

    and its a better card then the 130M. (If ur looking its towards the middle of Class 1)
     
  4. kimdoocheol

    kimdoocheol Notebook Evangelist

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    yeah.. my old laptop is a vaio k27... haha, so i'm not worried about lugging it around from class-to-class... and if it becomes too much work, i could always buy a piece of luggage/back to haul my stuff around. right now i just use a little messanger bag...

    back to the hardware, is there any laptop that you suggest that has a better video card but with similar specs and price? i can't find anything in terms of notebooks on hp's site with a better video card... but, my main concern is how much better would the "better" video card be on the other laptop? if the graphics are just a negligable amount "better" than the 130m, i would rather get the HDX18t with all the other specs maxed out...

    i want a laptop with a high-resolution and that i can play pretty much any game on. when i bought my last laptop, i bought tribes2 and the screen would always lag and the video quality was very poor.. i don't wanna go through that again - especially because the k27 was 1800.. so do you have any suggestions?
     
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    kimdoocheol Notebook Evangelist

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    i don't see where i can get it with 2 gpu's??
     
  7. RainMotorsports

    RainMotorsports Formerly ClutchX2

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    Well you can turn the settings down and/or run it in 720P. But ive seen 2 shots from Korea that where matched with the same 2 shots in the game and you almost cant tell the fckn difference. But thats at the max settings at a low res as well.

    Crysis can be a killer but the 9800 GS should handle it at my laptops native 1366x768 resolution. Im afraid the 130M probably cant do it as well even at that res. That said this card is gonna PWN my last gen games that i played at 640x480 on my 6100 Go LOL.

    EDIT - I should say that bench on the G50 was Crysis Warhead not the original but shouldnt be far off.
     
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    kimdoocheol Notebook Evangelist

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    hmm. i don't know what to do but i need a laptop a.s.a.p... i found a toshiba coupon for 20% OFF any customized laptop, but the ones optimus posted were prebuilt.
     
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    kimdoocheol Notebook Evangelist

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    let me ask it this way, if you had 2,500 dollars to buy a gaming laptop, what would you buy?
     
  12. RainMotorsports

    RainMotorsports Formerly ClutchX2

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    Id try to talk you into the 15.6 Inch Asus with P8400 and 9800M GS but it unfortunately lacks alot of other stuff you would want, its only 900 bucks and avaliable online or locally.

    If you look at other ASUS or MSI laptop's you will find killer GPU's that HP doesnt have and less money then Dell would charge if they did have them. Ive heard ASUS customer support is good in North America but sucks in many other countries.

    EDIT - 2500? I saw an ASUS for 2300 that scored 15,000 3dmark's in 3dmark06. Quadcore to boot.
     
  13. RainMotorsports

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    The ASUS im speaking of is the W90 Packs Quad Core and 2 x Radeon 4870. Can be had for 2200-2500 it looks like.

    Has an 18.4 inch 1080p display like the HDX18 does. TV Tuner, Bluetooth specs out like a beast.

    NBR Review right here - http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4917&review=asus+w90+w90vp
    Quoting Pros lol "$2,199 for up to 34FPS in Crysis and 15,628 in 3DMark06"
    "Comparable notebooks from Alienware or Toshiba with dual graphics cards options cost upwards of $4,000."
     
  14. kimdoocheol

    kimdoocheol Notebook Evangelist

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    two questions about that laptop

    does it matter that it is ddr2, and is that video card able to run crysis at high settings?
     
  15. kimdoocheol

    kimdoocheol Notebook Evangelist

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    nevermind - found this review on it..

    Pros:

    $2,199 for up to 34FPS in Crysis and 15,628 in 3DMark06
    Built like a tank
    Comfortable keyboard
    Great touchpad
    Beautiful 18.4” WUXGA display
     
  16. RainMotorsports

    RainMotorsports Formerly ClutchX2

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    Look at my post above it PWNS lol, yeah i found and linked u the review but u were gone by then.

    Has a tv tuner and all man if u can find it for 2200 sounds like a deal they even said "Comparable notebooks from Alienware or Toshiba with dual graphics cards options cost upwards of $4,000." which hits the spot.

    The review was done by this site if u didnt notice. a 9800 GTS overclocked might scrape 10,000 3dmarks 15,000 is uber.
     
  17. kimdoocheol

    kimdoocheol Notebook Evangelist

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    i didn't.. man that looks sick. and it's cheaper too... i'm basically losing a bluray player and...? lol
     
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    CyberVisions Martian Notebook Overlord

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    The GT 130m has only been recently offered on the HDX line - the 9600 was the standard card previously, so there really isn't much feedback on how well it'll perform in the field. However, what you might not know about 64 bit systems is that they use both system and GPU RAM for the entire system.
    The HDX was only recently offered with an upgrade to 8gb - if the overall cost is less than $320 to upgrade, then do it now rather than later. Upgrade modules for 64 bit systems are getting harder to find - several of us who own the 20" HDX had to get them shipped from Australia. Unbelievable though for the programs that use it.

    The HDX 18 is the "downgrade" solution from HP to the size of the 20" Dragon, which was discontinued last fall, but which now continues in high demand, if you can find a new or refurbed unit. The HDX 18 is also about half the weight of the Dragon, and while only a bit smaller, the lighter weight makes it much easier to carry. The Dragon is not for the weak - at 16lbs, once you put the adapter and battery into a case you're looking at 20lbs easy. But since I don't really take mine anywhere that often I don't worry about it.

    I have one friend who owns a 20" HDX and is a Graphics Design student at American University down in D.C. Like most of us, he loves his, despite the size. The problem with most people is they want small and light, but for of use who are engineers, techs, designers, etc., we want bigger, especially for playing BD movies or Video Production. Who wants to watch a BD movie on a dinky notebook screen? 1080p all the way, in full 20.1" HD. Or for you, 18".

    Considering I paid just over $4,000 for my Dragon (I've got every upgrade option possible) and used an HP Employee Discount, $2700 isn't bad, though it's not the top configuration. The only option I'd probably get myself is the new Blu-Ray Burner option, which just started being offered on the 18 within the past month. Though we often say we'll upgrade later, it's easier to just do it up front.

    Cases - HP offers a Targus Rollercase that will easily fit the 20" Dragon, so it'll take yours as well. It can be used as a roller, carry, or backpack. For a traditional case, most either get the Dicota Multigiant or something not made specifically for computers. There aren't many options for cases in anything over 17".

    Accessories - Don't buy any Extended Support, docks, etc. yet - you'll get a lot of coupons to use at the HP Online store with your system.

    Since I spend a lot of time on the HP Forums, I can tell you one thing about the HDX line that has been fairly consistent - when it comes to constant problems, there aren't any. There was a problem with some of the 20" Dragons updating to the F.40 BIOS, but to my knowledge that hasn't been an issue for the newer 18's and 16's.

    You might want to check through the HDX-18 Owner's Lounge also. When they came out, we asked NBR to split the HDX community, since frankly, the 18's and 16's just aren't the same as a Dragon. But I'd pick an 18 over a 16 if that were my only choices in a heartbeat.

    People tend to put to much emphasis on a system's GPU when talking about gaming also. A lot of problems many attribute to GPU performance is actually bad networking setup. The average gamer doesn't know much about setting up a network for online gaming, which is crucial if you want to be in the top percentage of players, or be one of the bullet sponges for the rest of us with top-speed networks. People will shell out a lot for a top performance system, but spend nothing on their networks. Even the fastest racehorse is slow when running in mud. One of the problems I've noticed recently with the Intel adapters is that they can be set up individually to match router settings for better performance, but most aren't doing it and having issues as a result.

    With an 8gb 64 bit system, you shouldn't have any problems gaming online, but check the specs for the specific games you play to be sure. And again, if your network is crap, it won't make any difference anyway.

    Battery charge - depends completely on your Power Plan setup, but most will get at least an hour or more. For the HDX's, the screen is the biggest power hog, so I cut my monitor levels down quite a bit when on battery. If you're curious though, you can look at this:

    How to Improve the Performance of the Battery


    I'm not sure if they still offer it on the 18, but for the Dragon HP offered Lojacking at the BIOS level, which can only be done during assembly and configuration. It doesn't run that much more if offered, but it's something you can't get afterward.
     
  19. RainMotorsports

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    Not much else? lol I didnt reread ur specs and plainly too lazy too. ASUS offers a bluray on the G50 series i cant believe theyd not have it for the W90. If you dont own any bluray's and odnt really rent and dont have a burner somewhere that your macking backups with id say fck it.

    Note that it has a 93 whr battery and they said playing Crysis Warhead they drew 220 watts. Playing any serious kinda game pretty much means being plugged into a wall.

    LOL @ Cyber i thinkt he original post is outlived. Were onto 18.4 inch PWNERtops already.
     
  20. kimdoocheol

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    so what advantages does the 18t have over the w40? i'm not seeing much except for longer battery life and no bluray burner.
     
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    thanks for the informed post. my main problem with the 18t is the video card.. i just wanna be able to pretty much play any game that is on the shelf. i don't think if i tweak my network settings it will allow me to play crysis on max settings, though
     
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    W90 uh..... reasonable battery life maybe? Oh besides that...... You were getting a writer that is a big loss.

    But gaming wise the W90 is gonna PWN the HDX18T. If your not that serious about gaming the HDX18 should play Crysis at a reasonable res on reasonable settings but it wont be more then 720P in lowish medium. The ASUS was only getting 34 fps in 1080p with the Warhead sequel on max the HDX18 unfortunatly just wont do it.
     
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    any good places to buy this thing? i'm looking online right now and can't find a site that i recognize...?
     
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    GenTech is a good place come over to the ASUS forum the guys love that place.
     
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    thx for the info everybody. i feel a lot better about my purchase
     
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    Yeah i forgot to mention it does come with a Free Mouse and Backpack. Nice to see GenTech has a Bluray in it too. Sadly not a writer but you have to compromise somewhere.
     
  28. optimustarzan

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    I've heard good things about ASUS too. Goodluck.
     
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    You own one what are you smoking j/k. Please don't kick me out ya'll not until ive turned everyone into ASUS owners lol.
     
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    I just said that's the only thing on HIS list that wasn't there that I'd get. If it was my own configuration I'd get the full CTO options available, like I did on my 20" HDX. The BD burner is a new option, literally within the last few weeks. For those of us doing media creation or production, having an installed burner would be a great option, as opposed to USB unit.
     
  31. RainMotorsports

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    I think im half confused on your reply, my reply was aimed at him but i did an LOL@ Cyber because of the huge post that came between, it was edited but shows no edit mark because there were no views between edits.

    Sorry if it seemed like i was directing the whole thing at you.
     
  32. kimdoocheol

    kimdoocheol Notebook Evangelist

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    what's the difference between ASUS W90 Series W90Vp-X1 and ASUS W90 Series W90Vp-X2?
     
  33. RainMotorsports

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    Id have to look it up but they both would have the same Chassis, motherboard in the case of the W90 the same screen. Processor, Ram and HDD typically vary between the base revisions.

    EDIT - Goto the asus owners sub forum and ask in the W90Vp thread for more detail.

    EDIT 2 THREAD LINK - http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=354885
     
  34. optimustarzan

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    Dude mine is a netbook. It can't even run solitare at more than 12fps. :D