r3000z 3400+ compared to my 3400 desktop

I ran Sandra on the the two and here's what I got:

cpu arithmetic:
r3000z 9199 3478/4510
desktop 9171 3476/4504

multi media:
r3000z 16454/21701
desktop 16453/21704

DTR cpu is running the same as desktop cpu. I sure didn't think they would be this close.

 

Wow, those are SO close. I would have thought there would have been a little more deviation.

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Actually, the CPUs in laptops today are, in some cases, more powerful than their desktop companions. This is especially true in the Athlon 64 chips. The desktop versions in this class generally only get 512KB of L2, whereas the mobile and DTR versions in notebooks get 1 MB.

In addition, the Dothan evolution has been so successful that Intel changed the pin configuration so that it will only work in certain chipsets, even though the Dothan and P4 are both Socket 478 chips.

The real dropoff in power comes in the form of high end graphics. The best notebook GPU today, the ATI MR 9700, is roughly equivalent to a desktop 9600 series. That is what causes graphics scores to be, in some cases, half of what a comparable desktop is able to do.

 

What GPU is your desktop running? I know that your R3000z is running either a Go 420 or Go440.

 

The newer amd64 desktop cpu's are Newcastle, they only have 512KB of L2. Before Newcastle came out, the Clawhammers were 1GB of L2,exect for the 3000+ which was 512. Mine is a Clawhammer so it has 1GB. The Newcastles run 200Mhz faster then the same number Clawhammer. For games cache rules. Just look at how many more frames the P4EE get.

GPU is an ATI 800XT in my desktop.

Your right about the GPU in notebooks. The other biggest difference is memory. Notebooks run PC2700(you talk about the GO440 being outdated). Who would put a 3400+ or a 3.4 in a desktop and run PC2700? Memory does make a big difference.

In games the GPU is the bid dog. A 800XT or 6800ULTRA will make a 2yr. old cpu make you cry for joy.
In anything other then games cpu and memory are the big dog.

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by step-dad

 

Of course it's 1MB. Sometimes my typing does not match my thoughts. Sorry, I won't post again

 

Memory does come in the PC3200 variety for notebooks, and Athlon 64 notebook mobos will accept it 9 times out of ten. The reason why OEMs don't include it is the same reason why HP still uses GO 440s-price. In addition, some AMD 64 notebooks, like Sager and Voodoo, use an ATI MR 9700 with 256MB VRAM and 128MB VRAM, respectively. Not shabby, by any means. Even the Acer Ferrari 3200 uses an ATI MR 9700 w/ 128 MB VRAM.

Finally, cache is not the only factor, and the same goes for chip speed. The FX-53 runs at 2.4 GHz and only has 1MB L2 cache. One thing that generally goes unnoticed is the amount of L1 cache, which, for the P4EE, is still limited to 16KB, when AMD64s come with at least 64KB. In the case of the Fx-53, L1 is 128KB. The memory controller is also integrated, reducing the "distance" from memory to chip. All of this adds up to the FX-53, a "slower" CPU with fewer "features," such as a 2MB L3 cache, as the performance leader in all but a few encoding and multitasking events.

 

All Athlons, 32-bit and 64-bit, have 128KB L1 cache. Only the L2 size has varied. Durons had 64KB of L2, that's probably what you're thinking of.