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    the new version of RMClock

    Discussion in 'HP' started by hegemon, Feb 2, 2006.

  1. hegemon

    hegemon Notebook Guru

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    is there any reason to use the new version? I tried it out, but couldn't add more than one P-State, which obviously doesn't help. Anyway, I went back to the old version. Does anyone perfer the new version over the old version?
     
  2. DallasBill

    DallasBill Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have only used v2.0 and I have to tell you that I found it VERY confusing to configure. All the instructions here refer to the old UI and they don't make sense any more.

    There's no more tabs, there no more 'add' button, etc. Minimal is gone -- it's Power Saving now. The old General/main view no longer has any edits on it. :confused:

    To set a P-State, you only set one lower one and one upper one respectively in the Power Saving and in the Maximal Performace panels. To do so, you have to select the PST box and then 'right-click... add' to bring up the dialog. Double-click on one you have done to edit it.

    Then, go into the Performance on Demand Profile and there you can enter two -- use the same one from Power Saving and the same one from Maximal Perfomance. So, when you use that profile, you get that range.

    When you use the Power Saving profile, you get the lower p-state, and the upper for Maximal. All via 'right click' on the systray icon. Also, no need to copy the rm-exe to the Win Startup folder as there's a systray option for autoload too (it may have been there before - I don't know).

    It's confusing until you figure it out and read along with the author's new FAQ notes.

    Hopefully this helps the newbies (like me) from tearing their hair out with 2.0. Once you get used to this, it's a breeze.

    Now, if only the Power Saving and the Maximals were automatically able to be copied into the Performace on demand, all would be lightness and good on earth! :)
     
  3. hegemon

    hegemon Notebook Guru

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    well, that sounds like pain. i have the old version, if anyone wants it
     
  4. djembe

    djembe drum while you work

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    I've got the old version, too, but I prefer Notebook Hardware Control.
     
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    brianstretch Notebook Virtuoso

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    Glad to know I'm not the only one. I tried the current version of RMClock and went back to CrystalCPUID.
     
  6. fill2k

    fill2k Notebook Consultant

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    I tried version of the RMClock. So far I like that you can set different p-state for AC mode and battery mode.

    For example, I set my AC mode to have 4x,6x,8x,9x p-states. then in Battery mode i set it to 4x & 5x only.

    I'll use it for a few days and see if I will keep it or go back to 1.8.
     
  7. Soul814

    Soul814 Notebook Consultant

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    i never tried any but im using hte newest one and it seems fine lol i just changed 4x from 9.0 to 8.75 and its running great =) went from 44C to 39C-40C
     
  8. fill2k

    fill2k Notebook Consultant

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    k. I didn't wait for few days. version 2.0 is BSODing my laptop.

    Same p-states, same voltages, but on 1.8 it's stable. I went back to v1.8
     
  9. chinna_n

    chinna_n Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Haa, that is surprising to me. I have been using 2.0 since it is in beta state and no problem at all.

    It does has tabs once you select each category on left menu.
    Just right click on each tab and select ADD in the right click menu to add P-states.
    It is provided that way, so that we can have different P-States profile for each state of Maximal, Power-On-Demand, and Minimal states.

    May be I need to provide a guide with some snapshots. I will try to do it this weekend.
     
  10. hegemon

    hegemon Notebook Guru

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    a guide would actually be useful. what's the use in having differen't p-states, though? As long as RMClock is correctly selecting the correct p-state based on the current demand, i don't get why you'd want more than 1 voltage for the same FID.
     
  11. DallasBill

    DallasBill Notebook Enthusiast

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    For Power Saving (old Minimal):
    You can only have 1 p-state for 1 FID for A/C; and only 1 p-state for 1 FID for battery. This is where you set your 4x, for example.

    For Maximal Performance:
    You can only have 1 p-state for 1 FID for A/C; and only 1 p-state for 1 FID for battery. This is where you set your 8x/9x/10x... whatever your CPU max is.

    For Performance on Demand:
    You can have 1 p-state for 1 FID for the low end (4x) and 1 p-state for 1 FID for the hi end (8x/9x/10x) for A/C; and 1 p-state for 1 FID for the low end (4x) and 1 p-state for 1 FID for the hi end (8x/9x/10x) for battery. I matched these to my Power Saving and Maximal values, since I know they work. But you could do it differently here if you want.

    Like I posted earlier... until you look at, it is confusing as all get out. Then it gets easy.
     
  12. chinna_n

    chinna_n Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    hegemon Notebook Guru

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    thanks, Chinna. That helped a lot. Do you know anything about any of the settings in the advanced tab? I've been ignoring them, but maybe there's something useful in there
     
  14. fill2k

    fill2k Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah, can't figure it out too. The forum over at RightMark says that there's no changes in main code. And I'm using same p-states and voltages as in v1.8

    Anyway, I'm back at v1.8 and it's running stable.
     
  15. hegemon

    hegemon Notebook Guru

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    when i was first setting my voltages, 4x BSODed on me. I rebooted and kept using the same voltages. I run SuperPI for a little bit and it was stable. I think it might have something to do with the new RMClock power scheme / profile. If I BSOD again, I'll probably go back to 1.8 or raise my voltages a bit.
     
  16. Neero

    Neero Notebook Consultant

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    i indtalled this new version on my v2000z. i'm getting more frequent crashes than the prevoius version. I am actually using higher voltage :mad:

    this is on an ml-30
     
  17. chinna_n

    chinna_n Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Haa, I do not know why it should happen. As per RMCLock developer, there are no changes in core, changes are in the Interface with few more options.

    Try 1.8 and if it still stable, And let us know if it because 2.0( or because somehardware started misbehaving recently).

    I have been using 2.0 without any problems. You might have seen my snapshot for volates and setting.
     
  18. fill2k

    fill2k Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah, me too.

    When my laptop crashed 3 times within an hour. I increased the voltage by .025V.. still keeping the 4,6,8,9X FIDs. still crashed.

    so I went back to v1.8
     
  19. Soul814

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    i seem stable at 2.0

    4x --> .875 been running that for a few days lol no problems
     
  20. Neero

    Neero Notebook Consultant

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    i'll have to look for my 1.8 version. while sometimes my notebooks still freeze-up in the 1.8 version, I was thinking it was casued by something else. This might be the case here too with the 2.0 version. But i have no way of knowing that. The crash seems to happen when I'm using FireFox but not when I'm playing games like FFXI.

    btw .. on my ML-30 I just use 4x and 8x and nothing inbetween.

    I noticed you guys with ML-37 has no problems with this and can do lower voltages @ 4x
    i can only do 9.5 to be stable enough
     
  21. Neero

    Neero Notebook Consultant

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    i can't seem to uninstall RMclock 2.0 it is not in the ADD/REMOVE listing in control panel.
    Any know how to?
     
  22. fill2k

    fill2k Notebook Consultant

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    There's no uninstall script.
    You can run the Wipe_out.reg then remove the files.