whats so gr8 bout voodoo computers they are so expensive?
except the only thing they gt wich is cool is the package and the gold color choice
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Nothing. The laptops are just re-badged Clevos for the most part at almost double to triple the price.
They're pretty much expensive for the sake of being expensive, and thus, that makes them desirable to some people. Given the fact having a Voodoo PC is so rare, so costly, it makes them all the more attractive to the people who pay for them.
But you can get anything Voodoo sells for half the price at places like XoticPC or RJ Tech. They just lack the fancy paintjob -- but that can easily be fixed. -
but no other company does gunmetal color or gold color
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Psh, gunmetal paint. For the $2000 you'll be saving, you might as well cast your laptop in actual gunmetal, or gold for that matter.
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how do they even make a profit?
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How does Voodoo make a profit? Well if you sell a $2000 laptop for $4000, then you've made ($4000-$2000 = $2000) profit.
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Voodoo is very weird ok, they produce a very low quantity of systems per year, they actually dont make that much off each of them. Well they make most on their desktops, as the only thing special about them is the case, wiring, water cooling system and paint. First you have to realize, that they have professional auto painters and pinstripers which work for them. They use only the highest grade paint, flake and such. Plus it is also quite hard to get computer parts in Canada, so they team up with Eurocom, which is a reseller of Clevo chassis. Their systems may look the same, but you get streamlined and custom modded drivers which you wont get anywhere else, unless you make them. It is an emotional experience buying a Voodoo, not because youre getting ripped off, but you become one with a family of the few hundred voodoo owners. They are a great caring company, and you get to know all of the staff personally. Every once in a while, they have events and such where all voodoo owners are invited to do whatever.
Voodoo also has one of the best warranty's going, you can physically break youre system, oc it till it dies, and you get all new stuff for free.
You can say i am dumb for wasting money, but I save money elsewhere, and I worked hard to make the $7500 for my laptop. Yeah I am a kid and kids are stupid. Buying a Voodoo has been a mistake at times and other times its not. They are very nice, and easy to talk to. When problems occur they are very helpful, and you know I find that to have meaning. You can dislike Voodoo all you want, but where else are you going to get the best components, paint, tech support and warranty.
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^ Perfect example of how humans can justify even the weirdest things. Check you psychology book for more.
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Yeah, well youre also getting an emotional experience with Voodoo which you do not get with any other manufacturer. You know you want one but your wallet does not want to open. Really buying the Voodoo was to bring happiness into my life. You know what I am talking about if you have ever felt that there was a void in your life which couldnt be filled. That void unfortunately was caused from not having anyone. So I decided that I could buy my way out of it. Yeah getting a Voodoo is great. It helped me to feal better. Unfortunately it could not fill the void permanently. Yes it did help me to be happy but only temporarily. My girl still hates me for misinterpretation, but I dont want to get into that. Sometimes a guy has to do what a guy wants to do.
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Yeah, well youre also getting an emotional experience with Voodoo which you do not get with any other manufacturer.
For $7500 I too would be having an emotional experience i.e screaming in pain and kicking myself why the heck did I buy an overhyped/overpriced laptop!!I have been a member of Voodoo mutthaboards since 2003 and I can tell you that their once touted customer service has gone down since El P (Rahul Sood) sold off his company to HP. They are still clinging onto their old overhyped up prices based on slick advertising.
Well after buying a VoodooPC unfortunately you will not only still have that void in your life but also a HUGE void in your wallet! -
I understand where K-TRON is going.
My friends all thought I was crazy for buying a 2500 $ laptop, when I could buy the same powered desktop for 1/2 the price. The thing is that when you really want omething, you don`t care about the price and all, because this thing gives you what you need. The feeling of having something awesome sometimes is priceless, be it a girlfriend, super laptop or a fast car.
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pft, that could of been one hell of a down payment on a REALLY nice car.
or down payment + monthly payments,
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You know this last week has been a really emotional time for me, and you know all of the people on the voodoo forums are very nice and they guided be and helped me to see what I was missing. Essentially I really screwed up with my girlfriend, and I didnt know what to do. The guys and gals on the forums helped me out, that is the one thing about Voodoo's Mutthaboards, which is far better than notebook forums, the fact that there are only 10 people who frequent the forums, and you know each one of them personally. That is something this site can never do, it is way too big. I cant publicize my private ideas here, since the notebook forums are open to everyone. This past week, has been terrible for me, and the guys on the forums did what they could in order to help understand and set my emotions straight, and to me that means more than what money can buy.
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i dont think u need 7500$ to be part of a community that cares, and dont you have real friends to cheer you up, pat you on the back and say its alright? im glad i do. man K-Tron sorry of what your going through or have gone, but 7500 is too high of a number for a laptop imo. there such a thing as smart spending too, im not critcizing or what im just in awe that there are people that pay that much
7500 could translate to 7 laptops, a car, all the latest gadgets this year with a laptop. a totally pimped out home network, a home theatre, all the gaming consoles and a laptop with lotsa games.,
7500 could also be, 25 awesome dates with a special girl, 25 awesome group hangouts, and it could go on...
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haha, looks like voodoo did their job and made you think 7500 was a justified price for one of their "special" laptops. lmao dude you got ripped off, keep trying to make yourself think you werent, but in reality, you paid probably 5500 for a fancy case lmao
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Anyone that buys a laptop from VoodooPC should NEVER go and configure a laptop on either Sager or XoticPC website. SEVERE bouts of depression will follow. You have been warned!
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Honestly, I think this site is great. I hang out around the Alienware forums all the time here, and I know everyone there. There is about 10 frequent people there, so it feels like a community.
Honestly, I think Voodoo is a ripoff. I have heard bad thing about their service, but I have never experienced it. For your next notebook look at Falcon Northwest, I have heard great things about them.
I still think you spent too much money. For $7500 you could have got what I am using AND a desktop with (2) 8800GTX's.
It's your money though, and I'm not going to tell you how to spend it, I'm sure being one of the only ones with that notebook is awesome though. -
I like falcon northwest, but problem is that they have high prices one and they do not have the notebooks I want.
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You can check out xoticpc on this forum. I have read good things about their customer service and their prices seem pretty reasonable for what they offer. You can also build systems side by side on their site as well as VoodooPC and Falcon to see how much you're getting for your money. I recently configured a laptop with 7950GTX SLI on voodoopc and it came out $2000+ higher than the 8800GTX SLI system on xoticpc.
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The thing is I like the Falcon Northwest name and I like the Falcon Northwest CS support.
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What good is a name brand or customer service if it doesn't have the product that you want and is beyond your budget as you stated in your previous post?
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Exactly why I am not buying a Falcon NW. Another thing that makes me tempted is that my last name Sahin in Turkish means falcon, which makes me even more tempted to buy one.
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Look, I am not going to go buy another laptop for another 5-6 years. I have the fastest AMD laptop, and I am very happy with it. Yeah I know my laptop is based on a Clevo D900K chassis, but it is just not the same. I turn my laptop upside down, and it does not say clevo and notebook computer, and that makes me smile for some strange reason.
Also Voodoo's have great resell value, as only a small quantity are made, and every pc enthusiast would die for one. When people see my laptop, they think it is old because it is so thick. I dont care, I will sacrifice lightweught and battery life for performance and a one of a kind beautiful laptop.
I am not saying that the notebook forums are bad, they are updated way more than the Voodoo forums. Its just that, on the Voodoo forums, you personally know all 15 people, and you can post personal informartion without having to worry about it.
I love owning a Voodoo and I will continue to buy my laptops through them. I am good friends with Ryan, Tyrell and Luc, the system builders, and I really enjoy using my system. My voodoo is not flawless, but nothing is. I prefer quality and performance, and that is why i bought Voodoo.
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AlexOnFyre Needs to get back to work NBR Reviewer
Okay, K-TRON, if that even is your real name, let's have a reality check. You bought a 7500 dollar laptop to self-medicate the depression you were in because you screwed up with your girlfriend. I'm not judging you there, I have been in the same place and did a lot worse. What I am saying is that not all of us need the emotional support of having a highly luxurious brand name under our fingers. Your justification for spending such a ludicrous amount on a laptop is fine, for you, we aren't attacking you. The point is that for the average consumer who isn't spending money to distract themselves from emotional pain, Voodoo is charging thousands over what the system is worth because of a little pin-striping and paint (which by the way don't cost that much to do on a car.) I completely understand buying it, the same way people will spend 7000 bucks on real Prada sunglasses, when you can find 100 dollar knock-offs (or smaller brands) that look exactly the same. If you want to see how personable NBR is perhaps you should check out off topic. Those guys are awesome.
You will look back on this and have no clue why you spent so much on the laptop(I mean, you could have used that money to do something seriously special for the girl, or to have picked up a hobby to distract you, or at least lots and lots of booze =P)
Don't worry about whatever is going on right now, it will probably make you a better person in the long run...it just costed you a little more than most people.
To summarize, don't try to sway any of us by saying how therapeutic buying the laptop was, because either:
A) we don't have emotional baggage we are looking to unload by buying ourselves presents
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B) We have lived enough to know that you can't spend away sadness.
Not saying your purchase was a bad one, just that you shouldn't expect any of us to change our opinion because of your story.
(P.S. my notebook was an emotional experience, too I connected with all of the people here at NBR, which is quite a few more than 15 and am good friends with Ken Lee from GenTechPC who built and sold me mine. I spent less than 2000, too.) -
Good post, Alex. I agree even after having bought a laptop and a desktop from Voodoo (however, combined they may have cost somewhere near $7500).
A person who wants to purchase luxury, fancy, expensive or just plain flamboyant . . . "stuff" doesn't need an excuse to do so if he can afford it, IMO. However, he should not try to justify silly purchases with silly excuses. I know, because I, too, bought into the Voodoo "experience" for a while. Luckily, though, I'm not a young guy and didn't spend money I couldn't afford to waste. And, unlike the experience of K-Tron, my own machines had lots of problems requiring lots of service which was far from being special, unfortunately. -
Sorry man, I just don't understand how $7500 seems justified because you have access to a board where you can talk to people about your emotional self, I mean don't you have friends? And if you stick around long enough any board, you will find that Voodoo forums are not all that special, even here at NBR people will probably help you out as much as people do on Voodoo forums. You also said that it gave you satisfaction, well I tell you if you had built your own Laptop or Desktop, you would have gotten a lot more satisfaction out of it. In my opinion this is much more impressive than buying an overpriced notebook.
You also mentioned the great customer support that they offered. I don't know about you guys, but I never really broke any laptop and never really had to deal with any after-sales support because I don't break my laptops. I know that a lot of laptops fail after a few months and that people need customer support, but I think companies like Dell and Alienware offer good customer support and will help you with what you need. I also thought customer support was an overrated aspect of buying any PC, from experiences and what other people have told me, Dell is pretty good and they don't offer overpriced PCs, but yes, it's good to know that your brand will offer good customer support, but I don't need or want to spend 7500$ for that, I think that's just too much for "in case something breaks" because with 7500$ I can break a good Dell or other good laptop 3 times over without using customer support and buying a new one everytime.
They only valid reason I see for buying a Voodoo PC, is either their good Desktops or for being able to say "Hey, look at my Voodoo laptop", like those Prada Sunglasses, even that I find it hard to understand, because a system from Alienware and same specs for at the maximum half the price of your Voodoo will turn enough heads. And I am sure a lot of people have no idea what Voodoo PC is. And if it's for personal reasons such as knowing you are a special owner of that Voodoo laptop sounds understandable, but then again I can get the same emotional mindset from something much cheaper or even free, I don't need to spend 7500$ to have that satisfaction. And also if I remember correctly you are still a kid right? Isn't it kind of unfair on your parents to spend 7500$ on your laptop when 2500$ would have gotten you something as good, I mean it's their hard earned money. Unless maybe you made 7500$ by working, I see this as kind of disgraceful for your parents. -
I worked for my laptop and I paid for every penny of it. Its a justified purchase in my eyes, and I can understand if it is not in everyone elses. Its on hell of a machine, and it just runs so well. Have had no problems, and hopefully it stays that way.
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That's cool if it's your money, but you could have had the same laptop with no problems for half the price or less.
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Voodo, just like alienware is a BOUTIQUE brand. machines build not only for performance, but also look. Is that enough to justify the big pricetag? The only person who can answer is the buyer. It's like having an exotic supercar. It would be a insane waste of money for most of us, but if the person can afford it and likes it that much i don't see the problem.
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Yeah with a car it's different, because in computers it's all the same components. Intel, Nvidia and the rest will always be in a computer. In an expensive car you have different engines, tires, gearboxes etc....
That's why I am warry when sellers say "We use the best components available" or when people say "you know you always get the best from x brand". Well it's all Intel and nvidia, AMD and ATi. I don't see how a C2D in a Dell is different from a C2D in a Alienware. -
You're missing the point here, nbaumann. The C2D is different when it's put into a Voodoo, don't you see? LOL
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I don't see how a C2D in a Dell is different from a C2D in a Alienware.
EXACTLY!! I am sick and tired of hearing the same old excuse when some people blindly try to compare owning a Falcon-NW, Alienware and especially a VoodooPC to having a supercar because it's NOT. It's like comparing bananas and grapes! These are the kind of people who fall for the glitzy advertisement in pc gaming magazine and their so called "reviews" which are of course biased because advertisement dollars rule when it comes to magazine reviews (can't really blame them). VoodooPC probably at some point was building nice pc's but now it's basically a glorified HP. -
Of course the customer service people at Voodoo are nice. You paid for all that niceness. It's true that in about 2 years your laptop will be greatly outperformed by any new Dell, Lenovo, HP, and many more laptops in the $1000 to $1500 range. And, your $7500 laptop will probably only be worth about $1000 (but only to someone else that is lured in by the paint job). The sooner you come to your senses and realize that you spent to much money on your laptop the better. I don't think you should beat yourself up over it. Rather, chalk it up as being an expensive learning process. You will look back someday and realize that you shouldn't have spent that money on a laptop. For your sake, I really hope so.
I hope you can find some help. Trust me. When I was in my late teens and early twenties I would have done about the same thing if I had that kind of money. Fortunately, I eventually realized that my future was going to be based on my decisions. This will be one of the wisest things anyone will ever tell you... "Life is about decisions and consequences." You are forced to make decisions everyday. There will be some sort of consequence for each of those decisions. Bad decisions get you bad consequences. You are always going to make some bad decisions. Try to learn from them. Good decisions get you good consequences. If you make enough good decisions you will eventually be highly rewarded.
Tell yourself everyday, "Life is about decisions and consequences."
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for that price they ought to polish your knob when your girlfriend is pissed at you , tha's what i'd call worthwhile customer support at those prices .
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$7500=A lot of "self medicating" in Vegas
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3,000 is the limit i would pay for a laptop. for a pc i think 3,000 will also be the limit. 7,500 dollars i can save some more and get myself another reliable car to get to work
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I would not spend $7500 for some paintjob and custom parts (obviously they won't be found elsewhere because they are CUSTOM, duh). Just to think that the notebook is nothing more special than a repackaged Clevo and that voodoo hasn't put any work into designing the actual hardware makes it stupid to buy one. What an irony that voodoo calls its line of laptops "envy". Custom service is expected to be good for that price. But I think it's a bit over the top to have annual gatherings of voodoo owners...just weird.
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Why 7500? just buy a laptop from Xotic 4 2500 and get a paint job done by them (1st class too!) 4 like 200 bucks. Less than 1/2 the price and these guys are not bloodthirsty 4 ur money, along wit htheir great customer service.
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7500$ for a notebook...
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reading this had made me lol.
if the guy has money to burn, let him burn it, i dont see why people are like OMFG $7500, you didnt spend the money, he did.
its like people spending money in an auctions for something they really want, for someone like me, i watch them bid and think why the F--- did they just spend xxx amount on that piece of crap, but for them they see it was an investment, since voodoo are so rare, K tron must feel them same.
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Why? because it doesnt matter how good he thinks it is, it's actually NOT custom, it's NOT modded, it's just a clevo, with a paint job, and 4x the price.
It's moronic that anyone would ever buy one, even if you were a millionaire, it's still just stupid.
I think to me, the limits are $3K for a laptop, and $2K for a base tower, any more and it's overpriced. you can get the BEST of the BEST in notebooks for under $3k, and the BEST of the BEST in desktop components for under $2K.
You can also buy a can of extremely good car paint for about $10, and have it painted for you for about $200, or lazer etched.
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I doubt you'd feel that way were you to suddenly find yourself to be a millionaire. With money to burn you'd be bound to spend excessively on something silly, at least occasionally. As much as I currently dislike Voodoo PC, if owning one, as a millionaire, is what would make your day, why not?
Perhaps I'm wrong and you'd be the exceptional man whose wealth would mean little to you. You would instead buy an Acer or Dell and give the difference between the price of one of those machines and a Voodoo to your favorite charity. -
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So, again, I'll say that if a person has a little extra money and is able to frivolously spend it occasionally without putting himself in a financially uncomfortable postition, he probably will do so. Millionaires, or people in general, with a few extra bucks, have obviously either been very lucky, or spent their money wisely. That doesn't mean they won't splurge on occasion. What may seem like a very large expense to some people, will not seem so to others (K-tron, for example, who probably is not a millionaire).
Guess a person can horde his cash, ride a bicycle, shop exclusively at Wal-Mart, buy Dell machines and never eat out. Not sure that makes him a wise spender, though, and, IMO, it would certainly defeat the purpose of working hard enough to become a millionaire.
whats so gr8 bout voodoo computers they are so expensive
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