Dell VS. LENOVO

Hey guys. I went to Compusa to check out a thinkpad z60t 14'. After typing on the keyboard of the thinkpad, I felt my old 4 year old Dell Inspiron 8200 had MUCH better key quality. Is this just because the thinkpad was a display model???

 

Ckeck my post here http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=36882

If I had to guess the cheap feeling ones were probably early production models and the ones being delivered now are the better quality models. Now this is just a guess but the same rule applies to cars.

Personally I am moving from Dell to IBM because my dell has been a nightmare and I have been borrowing my girlfriends R40 and just love how user friendly the trackpoint and keyboard is.

 

Wow i really hope ur right about them having an early junky version of the z60t.

 

Other than what I have read here, I know nothing specific about the Z60t series. (Wish I did.)

But it is generally the case that a month or so is required to get production level bugs out when manufacturing a totally new notebook.

 

thats kinda weird considering a good notebook company should actually test their products before marketing it... but i think the z60t is pretty decent

 

Well, the prototypes (which DO get carefully tested) generally aren't made in the same factory environment as mass production units.

And with the drive to get something out quickly, lesser companies have been known to rush things.

 

Well, the keyboard on the Z60M I've been trying out is quite nice. Actually, it's about 3/4" wider than my 5-year-old desktop keyboard, and I'm very .. uh ... keyboard-sensitive? I can really feel the size difference, on top of the differences inherent to desktop and notebook keyboards.

It may well be that your older computer has a better keyboard. If so, it's probably not because Dell did a great job in picking a keyboard. Desktop keyboard quality has plummeted like a rock in recent years, with many of the new ones feeling like mealy pieces of trash compared to the nice, responsive, "clicky" keyboards used until recently. The same may have happened with laptops; I haven't worked with enough to say for sure.

I didn't know CompUSA was carrying Lenovo.

 

No, it's because the Z60t is crap.

(Sorry, Z60t owners, I don't really mean that it is crap, it's just that from some reason I've developed a rather strong resentment for that particular model.)

 

No, it's because it is made for the "rest of us".

PS: There is not much to complain about, yet it is much better than some other low end within the same price bracket.

 

Resentment for a model is fine but when you cannot back it up is when I have a problem. If it is unfound then why discourage others from purchasing a model that they could be happy with?

 

I didn't discourage anyone from purchasing anything. I'm just spreading my opinion around.

 

I actually got a bum Z60t as my review unit and Lenovo was mad that my review wasn't as shining as the Z60m. The casing wasn't clipped down properly at the front so there was a gap there, oops. The Z60t is fine, it doesn't fit my needs or likes for a notebook so I wouldn't choose it. It seems like some earlier production units may have had some construction issues, this wouldn't be an issue going forward.

I personally think the upcoming Lenovo branded widescreens will be pretty interesting and could somewhat compete with the Z60t since they'll be getting a ThinkPad like keyboard.

 

I felt that z60's keyboard was no longer as good as IBM's previes models
it seems that it's really a "display" model

 

As you may know, there are a three different keyboards and the best is the NMB. I got one of the bad ones, but one short phonecall to IBM and letting them know that I paid more for a ThinkPad as opposed to a Dell or something is because i want the best had them shipping the NMB Thai keyboard to me next day. Its just 4 screws to remove to replace the keyboard, just in case you don't get the NMB keyboard.

The IBM keyboard is bounds better than any others I have used... DELLs in particular. I had not responded to this thread before because it just seamed a ridiculous question to me, but now having read the original post I warrant the question respect. Answer: I am not at all sure of the Z series, but in any case, you can demand for a keyboard replacement if you don't like it inside and outside your 30day moeny back guarantee.

As far as comparing with a DELL... well, I used to work for Dell and apart from that I don't know where to start. You can't make a fair comparison of Ford Taurus and a Merc. E class... too many things to say and its just not that easy.

 

I DONT BELIEVE U ASKED US :d

 

It is still an issue. My 2 z60ts suffered very cheap quality built. Screen side doesnt seal properly. Both notebook doesn't close all the way leaving out a thick gap between palm rest and screen. Creeking sound all around the side if pressure pressed against about anywhere. Second z60t's space bar constantly stuck. I believe it has something to do with Titanium model since Black color buyers seemed satisfied with their purchase.

You felt right. It's quality actually worsen. As I mentioned above, second z60t has bad keyboad.

I agree.

 

Well, I don't agree.

 

Why? I don't recall you have one. Have you seen one?

 

I'm just saying that's not nice. (And I wish that I could see one).

 

Sorry 2 Say this "F*****" Lenovo "F*****" IBM THINKPADS TO "F*****" somewhere... LIKE REALLY...
Staples - IBMS FEEL LIKE S******
Home - IBM FEEL LIKE IT IS STILL STRONG AFTER 3-2 F***** YEARS...
LENOVO WHAT U DOING TO US ****?
Sorry But I was very unpleased... Thought about buying new IBM... NOW I anit buying no new notebook.

 

I still find that very disturbing.

 

...you're not the only one.
Wow, what a post.